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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:19 PM Aug 2017

President Trump has exchanged private messages with Russia special counsel Robert Mueller

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON President Trump has publicly called the widening federal investigation into Russia's election meddling a "witch hunt." But through his lawyer, Trump has sent private messages of "appreciation" to special counsel Robert Mueller.

"He appreciates what Bob Mueller is doing,'' Trump's chief counsel John Dowd told USA TODAY in an interview Tuesday. "He asked me to share that with him and that's what I've done.''

Trump's legal team has been in contact with Mueller's office, and Dowd says he has passed along the president's messages expressing appreciation and greetings to the special counsel.

The president has sent messages back and forth, Dowd said, declining to elaborate further.


Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/08/donald-trump-exchanged-private-messages-special-counsel-mueller/547917001/



"Messages" = A severed horse's head, perhaps?
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President Trump has exchanged private messages with Russia special counsel Robert Mueller (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 OP
"I hope you can drop the investigation into my son-in-law" cyclonefence Aug 2017 #1
Huh?????.... global1 Aug 2017 #2
What the f*ck?? Trump is a psycho. Mrs. Overall Aug 2017 #3
"The president has sent messages back and forth" fleur-de-lisa Aug 2017 #4
That was exactly my response - the ugly prick was trying to either intimidate Mueller or bribe him onetexan Aug 2017 #15
Uh ... not possible for ONE PARTY to 'send messages back and forth' ... that requires TWO parties .. mr_lebowski Aug 2017 #37
That's obstruction of justice. George II Aug 2017 #5
It's what bullies do SHRED Aug 2017 #6
very unlike LOSER 45, if anyone is on his case he insults , berates & tries to smear them Motley13 Aug 2017 #7
You are trusting his lawyer's word. Probably as trustworthy as tRump himself. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #30
One person cannot send messages "back and forth" they're trying to rope in Mueller bettyellen Aug 2017 #8
Mueller's response back to Trump: Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #10
This is how he gets caught in his own BS -- Mueller is not responding to him, but has no doubt LuckyLib Aug 2017 #31
Yeah, he's trying to make it sound like a back and forth. In reality, Mueller bettyellen Aug 2017 #33
Maybe Chump offered Mueller a cut of profits Dopers_Greed Aug 2017 #9
Through his lawyer... C Moon Aug 2017 #11
Exchanged????? lamp_shade Aug 2017 #12
Highly doubtful. dalton99a Aug 2017 #17
So when do we hear from mueller that he has not gotten any messages from 45? AJT Aug 2017 #13
That's my thought too. I think Trump's lawyer is lying and... WePurrsevere Aug 2017 #24
Does this fall under ex parte communications? DK504 Aug 2017 #26
I'm not a lawyer but from what I know of the law... WePurrsevere Aug 2017 #29
Independent commission! .99center Aug 2017 #14
I would think Mueller would find getting messages from 45 inappropriate. AJT Aug 2017 #16
I would like to here from Mueller on that rockfordfile Aug 2017 #18
If he GLOMARs, it would make me think it's partially true. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #20
"Exchange" would mean that Mueller sent some back, which is highly doubtful alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #19
I'm guessing they hope people think that but mean Trump sent his lawyer messages who passed them bettyellen Aug 2017 #22
This is inappropriate and strange Gothmog Aug 2017 #21
very inappropriate. bdamomma Aug 2017 #41
Exchange? "Sent them back and forth" skip fox Aug 2017 #23
Is this the same as Bill Clinton meeting with Loretta Lynch on a plane? jpak Aug 2017 #25
IMHO, he's trying to bait Meuller into Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #27
I truly hope this is yet another lie from drumpf. lark Aug 2017 #28
Remember the Boy Scouts "called to say tRump's speech was the greatest ever given" thecrow Aug 2017 #34
Have a good laugh at his base: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #32
Here's the exchange: truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #35
I so want to believe that would be Mueller response (if they responded at all). riversedge Aug 2017 #39
Here's Mueller's response to Trump: milestogo Aug 2017 #36
" The president has sent messages back and forth, Dowd said, declining to elaborate further." ummm.. riversedge Aug 2017 #38
Dear Trumpy, Thank you for the kind note. Please accept this subpoena with our fondest wishes. FSogol Aug 2017 #40
My non-serious take on this is ... Yonnie3 Aug 2017 #42

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
4. "The president has sent messages back and forth"
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:23 PM
Aug 2017

Attempted bribery, perhaps? That will go over real well with Bobby Three Sticks! Please add another charge, Mr. Mueller!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
37. Uh ... not possible for ONE PARTY to 'send messages back and forth' ... that requires TWO parties ..
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:51 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Wed Aug 9, 2017, 01:29 AM - Edit history (1)

That is a pretty f-ing ridiculous statement, implying Mueller 'writes back' ... but w/o saying so...cause I'm sure he doesn't.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
7. very unlike LOSER 45, if anyone is on his case he insults , berates & tries to smear them
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:25 PM
Aug 2017

this must mean he is REALLY worried.

And threatening NK with fire & fury,
Hurry Mueller or we are all gonna die.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. One person cannot send messages "back and forth" they're trying to rope in Mueller
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:30 PM
Aug 2017

When it's likely he squashed the convo. WTF?

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
31. This is how he gets caught in his own BS -- Mueller is not responding to him, but has no doubt
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:02 PM
Aug 2017

documented the receipt of every twisted attempt to communicate.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. Yeah, he's trying to make it sound like a back and forth. In reality, Mueller
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:47 PM
Aug 2017

Would likely only reply in an email or something else certified and explain the proper limits of their communication. Trump is obsessed with pretending he has a personal connection to everyone and they "like" each other and that is some sort of substitution for actually having a working relationship- policies, initiatives, or a process of any kind. He can't get past the I like this guy bullsht.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
11. Through his lawyer...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

in other words: Trumped gave them the go-ahead to say whatever it takes to get him out of the mess.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
24. That's my thought too. I think Trump's lawyer is lying and...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:44 PM
Aug 2017

IF he was stupid enough to send something to Mueller than I'm very sure Mueller is savvy enough to ignore it... well... other than for evidence perhaps.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
29. I'm not a lawyer but from what I know of the law...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:45 PM
Aug 2017

I could see it being considered such IF what Trump's lawyer said happened actually did and I'm very sure that Mueller knows how this 'game' might be played. At the very least it comes across as an unethical way for Trump's lawyer to sway, bait, etc someone in charge of investigating a case(s).

Since you seem to be familiar with the term I'm curious as to what you think?

AJT

(5,240 posts)
16. I would think Mueller would find getting messages from 45 inappropriate.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:57 PM
Aug 2017

He would not respond other than to tell the lawyers to stop passing messages.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)
20. If he GLOMARs, it would make me think it's partially true.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:06 PM
Aug 2017

And could only play more of a part into the obstruction case.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. "Exchange" would mean that Mueller sent some back, which is highly doubtful
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:06 PM
Aug 2017

Dowd's language is ridiculous: Trump "sent messages back and forth."

That's not how messages work, homie.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
22. I'm guessing they hope people think that but mean Trump sent his lawyer messages who passed them
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:29 PM
Aug 2017

To Mueller and then responded back to DT (that Mueller ignored them, I hope)

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
23. Exchange? "Sent them back and forth"
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:40 PM
Aug 2017

implies an exchange, but the syntax "Trump has sent them back and forth" implies only one sender.

Why are they implying a cordial exchange? Do they think this will dissuade Mueller? No. These are smart lawyers.

Are they trying to imply that Mueller has friendly feelings for Trump so they can can portray him as a lying, back-stabbing hypocrite when he finds what he eventually will? Does Trump think that would help anger the base, re-energize their flagging polls, and frighten the Republican Congress and Senate from impeaching Trump despite Mueller's report?

A Hail Mary, perhaps?

Phoenix61

(17,015 posts)
27. IMHO, he's trying to bait Meuller into
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:22 PM
Aug 2017

making a public statement about the investigation thus giving him a reason to request he be fired. What a maroon.

lark

(23,147 posts)
28. I truly hope this is yet another lie from drumpf.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:29 PM
Aug 2017

It would just devastate me, heck the country and the world, if Mueller is also on the take. Nothing I've seen so far indiciates that, and I think (hope) they are just trying to make Mueller look bad

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
34. Remember the Boy Scouts "called to say tRump's speech was the greatest ever given"
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:03 PM
Aug 2017

That was a huge lie...
If he sent letters to Mueller, I bet the response was *nothing* so I call bullshit on this story.
It's improper behavior and shows he's scared.
These are very dangerous times

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
32. Have a good laugh at his base:
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:25 PM
Aug 2017
Let it be known they are facing a master negotiator in Donald Trump, and Trump does not often lose in the long term, if ever. There may be short-term setbacks, but Trump plays the “Art of the Deal” with a great deal of finesse, and he has a game plan that is proven over the years to be virtually bulletproof.

Ask Jeb Bush. With a rush of energy and spectacular byplay, which manages to fake out many of the observers, the various weaknesses and limited capabilities of his opponents are quickly revealed, and Trump can be unrelenting, collapsing one line of assault and switching to a second or third, before the opponent can even get the guns turned.

Best damned job he has ever had in his life.

12 posted on 2017-08-08, 7:20:43 PM by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)


truthisfreedom

(23,152 posts)
35. Here's the exchange:
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:11 PM
Aug 2017

Message conveyed by 45's lawyer: "I want you to know that no matter how much I complain, in my heart I really appreciate everything you're doing for My great country."

Response from Mueller's staff: "Do not contact us again."

riversedge

(70,282 posts)
38. " The president has sent messages back and forth, Dowd said, declining to elaborate further." ummm..
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 03:07 AM
Aug 2017

I so want to believe that Mueller or his staff did NOT respond or if they did, they told trump to STOP!

FSogol

(45,520 posts)
40. Dear Trumpy, Thank you for the kind note. Please accept this subpoena with our fondest wishes.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:46 AM
Aug 2017

Good luck with your resignation.

Your friend,
Robert Mueller

Yonnie3

(17,474 posts)
42. My non-serious take on this is ...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:32 AM
Aug 2017

Mueller has a subpoena served on Trump.
Trump sends some stuff.
Mueller responds with "send the rest."

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