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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 09:14 AM Aug 2017

Kissimmee Police Shooting Leaves Two Officers Dead

Source: NY Time

Two police officers have died after being shot Friday night in Kissimmee, Fla., in what the police chief said may have been an ambush while they were responding to a call complaining of suspicious activity on the city’s north side.

It was one of three cases on Friday night in which a total of six law enforcement officers were shot in Florida and Pennsylvania.

Everett Glenn Miller was arrested and charged with first-degree murder, Chief O’Dell said at a news conference on Saturday morning. He was being brought to jail in Officer Baxter’s handcuffs, the chief said.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/19/us/police-shooting-florida-kissimmee.html





The news here is also full of the shooters rantings on Facebook about hating the police, KKK, and racists.

Way to go idiot, you just confirmed Trumps "both sides" argument.



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Kissimmee Police Shooting Leaves Two Officers Dead (Original Post) FLPanhandle Aug 2017 OP
I see the police are black, was the shooter white? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #1
No, the shooter was black FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #2
Shooter was also black VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #5
Every political killer has mental health issues, that is why they kill people instead of arguing Not Ruth Aug 2017 #7
That doesn't confirm jack shit RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #3
You don't know how this is being spun down here FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #4
and they are full of ham salad as usual RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #6
Maybe if we refuse to accept the premise of their arguments more often, 6000eliot Aug 2017 #16
Hey Florida Cryptoad Aug 2017 #8
Not too bad... EX500rider Aug 2017 #9
Yea we know Cryptoad Aug 2017 #10
Here's firearm ownership vs homicides... EX500rider Aug 2017 #11
yes Sirree,,,, we are a World Leader Cryptoad Aug 2017 #12
Most of those are cherry picked EU countries. EX500rider Aug 2017 #13
This really is not conplicated Cryptoad Aug 2017 #14
Actually I'd say me posting the world rates are the exact opposite of cherry picking. EX500rider Aug 2017 #15
Seems rational rather than cherry-picking to compare first world nations with other first world nati LanternWaste Aug 2017 #17
I just say do one or the other.. EX500rider Aug 2017 #18

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
2. No, the shooter was black
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 09:29 AM
Aug 2017


He had been posting rants about his hatred of the police on facebook prior to killing the officers.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. You don't know how this is being spun down here
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 09:38 AM
Aug 2017

It's definitely being used by Trump supporters that way.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
16. Maybe if we refuse to accept the premise of their arguments more often,
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 09:16 PM
Aug 2017

they will cease to control the narrative.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
8. Hey Florida
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 10:38 AM
Aug 2017

hows all those new laws making it easier for idiots and thugs to get and carry guns, working out for ya?

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
12. yes Sirree,,,, we are a World Leader
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 08:47 PM
Aug 2017
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=480




Oh BTW Have u heard,,,,, lowering taxes on the Rich create Jobs?

u trolling the wrong joint!

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
13. Most of those are cherry picked EU countries.
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 08:57 PM
Aug 2017

The homicide rate in Europe is 3 per 100,000, the US rate is 4.8 per 100,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

I can cherry pick individual US states for a low rate also:
New Hampshire, 1.1 per 100,000
Maine (bigger then Ireland) 1.7 per 100,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state

The US is actually below avg and below median for homicides worldwide yet has the highest firearm ownership in the world.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
14. This really is not conplicated
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 09:05 PM
Aug 2017

you really dont have to be a Rocket surgeon to have enough common sense to know that the more idiots u have have with guns, the gun violence u will have .

and u really dont need to be talking abt anybody cherry picking stats,,,, LMAO
bye

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Seems rational rather than cherry-picking to compare first world nations with other first world nati
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:11 AM
Aug 2017

Seems rational rather than cherry-picking to compare first world nations with other first world nations. Though no doubt, including the violence and conflict prone nations certainly does validate your agenda.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
18. I just say do one or the other..
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
Aug 2017

....you can compare the whole US to the whole EU ie: EU 3 per 100,000 vs US 4.7 per 100,000

Or you can cherry pick certain states in those areas I suppose that help your argument.
In which case New Hampshire at 1.1 is on a par with most the cherry picked EU states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state

I'd also point out that the America's are the most violent of countries with a avg rate of 16.3 making the US rate 4,7 quite good in comparison.

And the "first world" vs "3rd world" argument kinda falls apart when you see that Indonesia only has a rate of .5 and Palestine a rate of .6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

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