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Jose Garcia

(2,598 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:17 PM Aug 2017

University fires professor who blamed Harvey on Trump vote

Source: The Associated Press

The University of Tampa has fired a visiting assistant professor who suggested in a tweet that Hurricane Harvey's destruction is "instant karma" for Texas because it voted Republican.

Sociology professor Kenneth L. Storey posted the tweet and two responses on Sunday before removing the entire thread and his profile photo.

University spokesman Eric Cardenas said in a statement Tuesday that Storey was fired after the school weathered an outpouring of online outrage over the comments.

The Tampa Bay Times reports Storey issued an apology on Monday, writing that he "never meant to wish ill will upon any group.

Read more: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-utampa-fires-professor-20170829-story.html

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University fires professor who blamed Harvey on Trump vote (Original Post) Jose Garcia Aug 2017 OP
It's only okay for RW'ers to be vindictive. When we've been robbed by election coup ffr Aug 2017 #1
If we claim to hold the moral high ground Lazy Daisy Aug 2017 #5
I remember wen Pat Robertson actually prayed for something bad to happen to some of the justices on still_one Aug 2017 #7
No sympathy from me wryter2000 Aug 2017 #2
I second that. sandensea Aug 2017 #31
But nothing happens to Pat Robertson who said 9/11 was caused by gays? lark Aug 2017 #3
Thought that was Katrina, but whichever, no one's fired his crazy ass. flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #10
Knowing that jerk, it could have easily been both. lark Aug 2017 #11
The truth hurts, eh? n/m machoneman Aug 2017 #4
Clinton actually won Harris County, where Houston is located Jose Garcia Aug 2017 #14
Thank you. narnian60 Aug 2017 #29
Gosh Golly blue-wave Aug 2017 #6
So much for freedom of speech in academia. Orangeutan Aug 2017 #8
The government isn't throwing the prof in jail leftynyc Aug 2017 #22
It still exists. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #24
That was a seriously dumb and thoughtless thing to say. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #9
But you have to admit djg21 Aug 2017 #12
Which candidate do you think won Houston? Jose Garcia Aug 2017 #15
Im perfectly aware . . . djg21 Aug 2017 #17
Well, then how does it make any sense? LisaL Aug 2017 #40
Because the first person in line djg21 Aug 2017 #42
Hillary won Houston. It's a "blue" city, despite the GOPers in the rest of the state. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #18
Not only that, she won it in a big way. LisaL Aug 2017 #41
not right to blame a natural disaster on anybody hurple Aug 2017 #13
I really doubt PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #16
Non-tenured profs have zero rights n2doc Aug 2017 #19
His error was in not attributing it to "Jesus!" Grins Aug 2017 #20
They just barely mention "Another sociology professor will take over his classes" ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #21
That's exactly what they'll do neeksgeek Aug 2017 #32
I'd bet they try to get some adjuncts over the long weekend ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #35
My husband has begged me to stop posting anti trump stuff. redstatebluegirl Aug 2017 #23
Have you made a decision on this? And, how do you decide? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2017 #27
Not sure, we can't put his job in jeapordy and there are a lot of crazy people down here. redstatebluegirl Aug 2017 #28
Sad, but sounds like you have your priorities sensibly aligned. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2017 #30
If it's a controversial statement, you must do it anonymously, .... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #34
Is there any doubt not fooled Aug 2017 #25
///this\\\ the double-standard is unbelievable unblock Aug 2017 #26
When will employees learn. You CAN'T post just anything online & get away with it. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #33
I believe in karma but elmac Aug 2017 #36
Shouldn't be too long until Pat Robertson blames this disaster as God's punishment for rampant hom keithbvadu2 Aug 2017 #37
Uh, Florida went for Trump too motherfucker n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #38
What do you expect from a town full of rednecks and kkk? judesedit Aug 2017 #39

ffr

(22,670 posts)
1. It's only okay for RW'ers to be vindictive. When we've been robbed by election coup
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:19 PM
Aug 2017

and while theirs drives vehicles into crowds of us, we're just suppose to be magnanimous and forgiving.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
7. I remember wen Pat Robertson actually prayed for something bad to happen to some of the justices on
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:32 PM
Aug 2017

the SC court, and also when the Democratic convention was in Colorado

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
31. I second that.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:09 PM
Aug 2017

Yes, the Rethugs do this all the time - but Professor Storey isn't helping.

That said, I hope he lands on his feet.

lark

(23,099 posts)
3. But nothing happens to Pat Robertson who said 9/11 was caused by gays?
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:26 PM
Aug 2017

Asswipes probably just wanted to get rid of the librul professor anyway and used this as an excuse. Why is it only Repugs who are allowed to be total asshats?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
10. Thought that was Katrina, but whichever, no one's fired his crazy ass.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:34 PM
Aug 2017

Still, I prefer being on "team high moral ground" anytime.

lark

(23,099 posts)
11. Knowing that jerk, it could have easily been both.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:36 PM
Aug 2017

I agree with "team high moral ground", would never want to be in any other place.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
6. Gosh Golly
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:31 PM
Aug 2017

that professor is wrong! It must be the gays! Oh yeah, the reich wing bible thumpers can blame gay people or anyone else for catastrophies and not a whimper of outrage. Let someone say it was the wingnuts and watch out, your begging for pennies on the street corner.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. The government isn't throwing the prof in jail
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:20 PM
Aug 2017

for what he said. It's also not protecting him/her from the consequences. It was an incredibly stupid thing to say.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. It still exists.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:22 PM
Aug 2017

It still exists. There is however, no absolute freedom from the consequences of idiotic speech.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
9. That was a seriously dumb and thoughtless thing to say.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:33 PM
Aug 2017

And pointing out that fundies like Pat Robertson blame natural disasters on liberals and gays doesn't make this guy's comment any less dumb and thoughtless - that's just more whataboutism. At the same time, I don't think he ought to have been fired for it; a sincere apology would have sufficed, I think.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
12. But you have to admit
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:38 PM
Aug 2017

That virtually all of us have had the same thought and snickered to ourselves about Karma, or about the irony of Texas and Houston seeking billions of dollars in aid from the Federal Government to fund cleanup and recovery.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
17. Im perfectly aware . . .
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:52 PM
Aug 2017

That Houston was a blue island in a largely red state that Trump carried by relative large margin. I truly empathize with the residents of Houston affected by the flood. But the majority of Texas still espouses State’s rights and limited federal government.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
40. Well, then how does it make any sense?
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:08 PM
Aug 2017

Most people who are damaged by this hurricane didn't vote for Trump.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
42. Because the first person in line
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:49 PM
Aug 2017

for Federal funds will be Cruz, and Trump undoubtedly will funnel money to parts of a Texas that supported him. I don’t see the urban poor in Houston ever being made whole. And you know that if it were a Blue State that suffered a natural disaster on the same scale, Trump would do nothing.

To be clear, I’m not disagreeing at all with you and the level of devastation around Houston is heartbreaking. We’ll have to see what Trump and FEMA do.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
18. Hillary won Houston. It's a "blue" city, despite the GOPers in the rest of the state.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:53 PM
Aug 2017

So "karma" really isn't an issue as to Houston.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
13. not right to blame a natural disaster on anybody
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:43 PM
Aug 2017

However, if the response is not handled competently and people die because of it (see: Katrina), then it's game on!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
16. I really doubt
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:50 PM
Aug 2017

that the weather Gods, assuming they exist, pay much attention to how a city or state votes, or how many gays reside there.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
19. Non-tenured profs have zero rights
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:03 PM
Aug 2017

I've seen this happen several times over the past few months, and adjunct, or lecturer or 'visiting' prof tweets or blogs something stupid, and they get fired immediately. 'Free speech" does not equal 'no consequences from your employer' speech.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. They just barely mention "Another sociology professor will take over his classes"
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:19 PM
Aug 2017

Do they realize how much of a PITA shifting classes around is? This guy would have had anywhere from three to five classes. That means they either had to quickly hire someone else (the semester has already begun), or they distributed the classes among profs who already had a class load. If they found someone new, then that is fairly straightforward, but I imagine they couldn't have found someone in the span of 24 hours. So now those profs who already had their classes set are going to take on extra classes, shift their entire schedules around, and be burdened grading another group of papers and tests. There could very well be profs teaching from 8am till 10pm. But administration doesn't give shit. They just immediately caved to the whiny snowflakes.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
32. That's exactly what they'll do
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:15 PM
Aug 2017

And, speaking for myself, as a faculty member who often fills in for others, it can be a real headache. But they'll probably bring in an adjunct or two to take over ASAP.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
35. I'd bet they try to get some adjuncts over the long weekend
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:02 PM
Aug 2017

That would make sense. It's just incredibly lucky this happened right before Labor Day instead of mid-semester.

Thing is, I teach as an adjunct, and I know that I get priority of scheduling. It's the full profs who get the short end of the stick when they have to take one for the team. I hope they have a competent chair who works well under pressure!

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
28. Not sure, we can't put his job in jeapordy and there are a lot of crazy people down here.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:04 PM
Aug 2017

I am thinking of limiting my online activity to just viewing and not commenting.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
30. Sad, but sounds like you have your priorities sensibly aligned.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:07 PM
Aug 2017

Of course, if "redstatebluegirl" is not your real name, have at it here. Blast away at all things Trumpian.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. If it's a controversial statement, you must do it anonymously, ....
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:47 PM
Aug 2017

if you want to be sure your job isn't jeopardized. All public statements reflect on an employer, like it or not.

It's risky to be your own name on the internet and post about politics & religion.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
25. Is there any doubt
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:36 PM
Aug 2017

that the well-funded vast right wing conspiracy is much, much better at hunting down and exacting retribution on those of the left who post thoughtless or dumb remarks?

I haven't seen the original thread. Was his comment satiric in intent? A reference poking fun at all of the god-exacting-retribution comments made by ol' Pat et al.? If so, that's not a firing offense. Or shouldn't be. But the reich wing--who has armies of paid operative and trolls to find such comments and latch on to them--is much more effective at getting back at anyone who questions der Fuhrer and his minions.

And American institutions have been cowed into getting rid of anyone who gets brought to their attention because they are terrified of ending up on faux spews.

Remember Shirley Sherrod.



unblock

(52,227 posts)
26. ///this\\\ the double-standard is unbelievable
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:46 PM
Aug 2017

right-wingers can say the most outrageously offensive things and are rewarded with media attention, tv appearances, maybe book deals of even talk of a senate run. hell, in some cases we just hand over the white house!

if a left-winger gets caught up in the fights and says something similar, maybe even virtually the exact same thing a right-winger has said, they get fired, maybe their career is destroyed, forced to apologize, etc.


not saying what he said was appropriate, just saying if he gets fired for this, why doesn't the same thing happen to right-wingers?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. When will employees learn. You CAN'T post just anything online & get away with it.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:45 PM
Aug 2017

Your online statements reflect on your employer. If you want to state controversial things, have enough smarts to do it anonymously.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
36. I believe in karma but
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:04 PM
Aug 2017

don't believe its punishment for the evil trumpsters. I think we all are going to be punished for destroying this planet. As Tyrion Lannister said on GOT, the more immediate problem is that we're fucked.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
37. Shouldn't be too long until Pat Robertson blames this disaster as God's punishment for rampant hom
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:07 PM
Aug 2017

Shouldn't be too long until Pat Robertson blames this disaster as God's punishment for rampant homosexuality in Texas?

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