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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:48 PM Aug 2017

Waters in Texas are still rising and so is the risk of these 350 gators escaping

Source: Sacramento Bee

The rain just keeps falling in southeast Texas, and an alligator sanctuary—home to more than 350 water-loving reptiles—is getting nervous.

Gator Country is a 15-acre animal preserve in Beaumont, Tex., full of alligators, venomous snakes and a host of other dangerous animals.

As Harvey continues to dump inches and inches of rain on the area, flooding Gator Country, its owner is worried that waters could soon top the fences that are keeping his 350 rescued alligators in the preserve, letting them loose in the community, according to KFDM. But as of last night, none had escaped the enclosure.

“We’ve worked around the clock, and I don't know what else to do,” Gator Country owner Gary Saurage said Monday in an interview with KFDM, a TV station in southeast Texas. “We’re truly tired. Everybody’s at the end of it, man. We don't know what to do.”



Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article169939352.html

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Waters in Texas are still rising and so is the risk of these 350 gators escaping (Original Post) SecularMotion Aug 2017 OP
OMG, this is so horrible. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #1
Floods have a way of... 2naSalit Aug 2017 #2
Burmese pythons in Florida after Hurricane Andrew underpants Aug 2017 #5
and lots of exotic birds. florida was home to a lot of parrot breeders. mopinko Aug 2017 #17
There ween't many python regulations... Raissa Aug 2017 #25
People have very little to fear from alligators and venomous snakes Not Ruth Aug 2017 #3
Except in this case, if the critters are used to being fed by humans GusBob Aug 2017 #6
There are wild gators all over that area anyway! We have gators all over these bayous! Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #4
Ugly Capitalism... pbmus Aug 2017 #7
According to his website they also house crocodiles... LeftInTX Aug 2017 #11
Who you gonna call.... mbusby Aug 2017 #8
When the waters top the fences, shoot 'em. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #9
No they most certainly are not "varmints" they are indigenous to the area. Coventina Aug 2017 #10
You'd beg to be saved from one, nonetheless. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #15
Your point being? There are plenty of dangerous animals in this world. Coventina Aug 2017 #21
We visited Grandma and hurricane Carla burrowowl Aug 2017 #12
hope nothing NON INDIGENOUS. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #13
Visit Brazos Bend State Park if you're ever in the area pecosbob Aug 2017 #14
Floodwaters, Fire Ants, Gators, Donald Trump,.... LudwigPastorius Aug 2017 #16
I would imagine customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #20
nope, fire ants clump and float together on top of the water snooper2 Aug 2017 #23
Holy cow! Evil invasive species, I agree, but impressive! Coventina Aug 2017 #24
Wow, I didn't know that customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #26
Gatornado! kwassa Aug 2017 #18
Are alligators still considered an endangered species? customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #19
Again, the gators are indigenous to the area. How often to you hear of a child being Coventina Aug 2017 #22
I guess that only happens customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #27
Just a point of clarification: Disneyland is in California. Coventina Aug 2017 #28
My bad customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #29

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
2. Floods have a way of...
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:55 PM
Aug 2017

loosening and freeing up all kinds of things we temporarily control. I think this disaster event portends a number of worse things to come for a species that thinks it can control the natural world. Unfortunate but inevitable just the same.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
5. Burmese pythons in Florida after Hurricane Andrew
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:03 PM
Aug 2017

Breeding facilities and the homes of people who owned them (often illegally) were destroyed.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
17. and lots of exotic birds. florida was home to a lot of parrot breeders.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 10:44 PM
Aug 2017

makes it a lot easier when you just have to build a chain link pen than when you have to put them in a building and control the temperature.
thousands were loosed by andrew.

Raissa

(217 posts)
25. There ween't many python regulations...
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:44 AM
Aug 2017

Until after Andrew. It was like 08 before Florida's large snake regulations went through and the federal restrictions on importations came after that.

We also have a lot of animal sanctuaries that were hit. There was a need to prioritize reinforcing containment for large animals. I was helping with the Andrew aftermath on enclosures for bears, tigers, and a panther.

I think much of the exotic release during Andrew was due to importatiion facilities that were hit. Miami is a major importation hub for the U.S. even now.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
3. People have very little to fear from alligators and venomous snakes
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:56 PM
Aug 2017

Leave them alone and you will be fine. Florida is loaded with them and are rarely attacked. If they are, they are probably responsible to some degree.

Saltwater crocs would be a different story.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
6. Except in this case, if the critters are used to being fed by humans
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:03 PM
Aug 2017

I don't pretend to know the circumstances involved but if these critters are habituated to human contact, once they get hungry it could present problems

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
4. There are wild gators all over that area anyway! We have gators all over these bayous!
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:57 PM
Aug 2017

He is worried about his income as his TV show was canceled years ago and no one goes to his restaurant there because it is way outside of town. For him this is publicity!!!

LeftInTX

(25,335 posts)
11. According to his website they also house crocodiles...
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:40 PM
Aug 2017

I sure hope they get those crocodiles confined.


truthisfreedom

(23,147 posts)
9. When the waters top the fences, shoot 'em.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:25 PM
Aug 2017

They're 100% varmints once they're loose on the community in this situation. Tragic but true.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
10. No they most certainly are not "varmints" they are indigenous to the area.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:36 PM
Aug 2017

They've been there longer than the humans.

You could call the humans the invasive species, not them.

This is a tragedy for ALL the creatures in the area, not just the humans.

In fact, it could be argued that superstorms like this are partly BECAUSE of humans.

Compassion: it should extend to all.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
21. Your point being? There are plenty of dangerous animals in this world.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:26 AM
Aug 2017

How many people are killed by them, relative to other humans and the contraptions we make?

As I said, the gators are indigenous to the area. I don't hear of people in Houston being eaten on a daily basis, and the population in this animal park is a drop in the bucket compared to the ones "living wild" in the area. The danger is to THEM, not humans.

But don't let that stop you from standing outside their cage and shooting at them, tough guy.

burrowowl

(17,641 posts)
12. We visited Grandma and hurricane Carla
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

visited too, besides down wires there were lots of water moccasins in the flooded yard.
I hope no rescued or rescuers get bit!

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
14. Visit Brazos Bend State Park if you're ever in the area
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 09:05 PM
Aug 2017

Then you'll understand that a few hundred alligators is a drop of water in the sea. They're really not a very large threat. Sorry to hear about these folks' misfortune, but don't be worried about having a few hundred escape. If you have to go in the water, be more concerned about water moccasins. They, unlike alligators, are extremely aggressive and their bite can be fatal.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. I would imagine
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:55 AM
Aug 2017

that a lot of fire ants got drowned in Texas this last week. One of my friends got attacked by the little devils a few weeks ago here in SC, I hope someone finds a way to get rid of them eventually, they're an invasive species.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
23. nope, fire ants clump and float together on top of the water
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:28 AM
Aug 2017

So if you are in the water and get close they climb on you and bite the crap out of you...

They are pure evil...just pure evil


Coventina

(27,120 posts)
24. Holy cow! Evil invasive species, I agree, but impressive!
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:39 AM
Aug 2017

I can't help a grudging admiration for that level of coordination and cooperation.

No wonder they're so tough to eradicate!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
26. Wow, I didn't know that
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:59 PM
Aug 2017

If I were religious, I would say that they were the spawn of the devil himself. I just moved to SC from NY, where we didn't have them, and I have learned from friends to fear them mightily.

This is one of those circumstances that I hope genetic engineering eventually screws them over.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
19. Are alligators still considered an endangered species?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:53 AM
Aug 2017

If not, then I think we're better off with 350 less gators than one chomped child.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
22. Again, the gators are indigenous to the area. How often to you hear of a child being
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:30 AM
Aug 2017

chomped by one in Houston?

The danger is to the animals, not the local human population.

Coventina

(27,120 posts)
28. Just a point of clarification: Disneyland is in California.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 01:01 PM
Aug 2017

I believe the alligator attack to which you are referring was in Orlando, Fla. at one of the numerous Disney resorts in the area.

One other thing to point out: the toddler was playing in a bayou where there was a "DANGER: NO SWIMMING" sign posted.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
29. My bad
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:13 AM
Sep 2017

I spent a lot of my life on the West Coast where we referred to Disneyland much more than Disney World, but you got my point.

Yes, there was a sign, and his parents should have read it, but many people think that mega amusement parks are sanitized in such a way that bad things cannot possibly happen, and clearly, that is not the case.

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