and after public disclosure?

At least taken off the streak. Only his blood draw assignment was rescinded.

He assaulted her for God's sake.

First and foremost, she had her supervisor telling him they couldn't legally draw blood and he had his telling him if she wouldn't draw blood to arrest her
He could make a perfectly reasonable argument that he obeyed his supervisor because his supervisor knew the law better than hers
His supervisor didn't, but that is a perfectly reasoned argument for the detective to make. (Which would put the onus on his supervisor and not him)

Second, they are investigating right now. The city has called in an outside group to do the investigation. Since, for now, the situation is a mess because of the detective's supervisor, it becomes more difficult to say he is the one who should be arrested.

As to people who want him fired; You also cannot fire a public servant (any public servant) without a hearing. Like it or not, they have rights as well, that are protected through collective bargaining and his employers are expected to follow correct procedure -- which does not include firing him immediately
Police Unions are aggressive defenders of their members, and as we've seen, the public will almost always give them the benefit of the doubt, no matter how obvious or flagrant the violation is. This probably is one reason why he hasn't been arrested because they're not sure they could score a conviction

That even a police supervisor knows this type of law better than the ER nurse. Mrs. KatyMan has been an RN for 34 years and assure me that nurses, especially those working on the ER are very well schooled in what they can and cannot do. The cop was being an asshole.

give that detective the same treatment he gave the nurse. Cuffed and frog marched off to jail.

‘YET ANOTHER CASE OF HOSPITAL WORKPLACE VIOLENCE – SETTING A CHILLING EXAMPLE WHEN DONE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT,’ NURSES SAY

National Nurses United today criticized the actions of Salt Lake City police officers for assaulting and arresting a University of Utah registered nurse for advocating for an unconscious patient in late July.

In a press conference yesterday RN Alex Wubbels, released a video and described how she was assaulted and arrested and handcuffed by police, even after a hospital supervisor confirmed to the officers she was in full compliance with hospital policy for refusing to allow police to take a blood sample from an unconscious patient without his consent.

“The first job of a registered nurse is always to protect and advocate for her patient, period,” said Jean Ross, RN, co-president of National Nurses United, the nation’s largest union and professional association of RNs, calling the police actions “outrageous.”

http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/entry/nurses-condemn-police-assault-on-utah-hospital-rn-for-advocating-for-pt/

Not this time. The officer assaulted the RN. An apology from the police chief doesn't cut it. Try again. Twenty bucks says the cop who man handled Ms. Wubbels has done it before.

from the arresting officer.

They didn't even get the officer's name and badge number until AFTER he had dragged their employee away and put her in an unmarked car. What if the cops had been kidnappers? The whole scene was disgraceful.

My greatest disgust is with the lieutenant who showed up to bully and browbeat the nurse while telling 100% falsehoods about the law.

The only hero is the cop who caught the whole thing on bodycam.

The officer claims HE was following orders from the LT to arrest her if she didn't comply with his unlawful order. Just like the hirer of a hit is just as guilty as the hit man, so is the LT. Nuremberg and Eichmann made it clear the officer is still a criminal as well as "I was just following orders" ended in long drops with quick stops.

term "professional courtesy". The unwritten rule that you break the law to protect fellow cops.

And a real patriot.

This is one of those times. Talk is cheap - where are the "actions"?
Looks like the only way it's going to make a dent in their behavior is to sue the crap out of them.

We're all on the wrong side of it.

and the Detective said something to him. Probably F Off! He's a detective not just a regular cop.

Not defending them or arguing with you but I saw that as this asshole detective letting the flatfoot know who's boss in that situation.

the term is pervasive in LE and illegal. Brass that allow it need to be gone.

Hope they get a lot of protesters.


....Utahns Against Police Brutality announced it was holding a protest rally at 6 p.m. Saturday at the Salt Lake City Public Safety Building, 475 S. 300 East.

He falsely claimed authority that he did not have.

Still in a position to do it in other circumstances.

and he pulled the typical: "I have the badge. I am GOD!" LEO bullshit.

Oy!...

Should NOT have military equipment!

Gas and fire.

for not informing the plaintiff that she could be taken into custody if she refused to sign the ticket he'd written. His response? "Oh, that's not part of our training." Judge Judy's response? "Oh, the court finds in favor of the plaintiff!"


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Trump can praise the officer for his crime fighting.

the world is becoming a very scary place, especially when it comes to law enforcement. There doesn't seem to be anyone that police won't manhandle or assault. I'm surprised he didn't taze her as well.

And I'm sure that if *I* committed a crime I couldn't just offer a "profuse apology" and "work to make changes in policy".

is an apology from the dickhead officer who committed the assault.

There are two kinds of cops: the bad ones, and the ones that look the other way ..... there are NO good cops.

in every department that will write the mayor the captains wife and the judge a ticket. The rest of the cops hate that guy.

Thank you for telling me. Deleting post.

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that the cop is supposed to be in the business of upholding.

If the cop didn't know that he can't have blood drawn from an unconscious person without either a search warrant or an arrest, HE SHOULD HAVE -- which suggests that the entire department could use a refresher course. And if he wasn't wasn't interested in anything the nurse called in, could a doctor have succeeded in trying to explain it all to him?

rocktivity

I say still allowed because soon, whether your car is built wrong and kills you or that new heart drug does, there will be no more lawsuits.

Well, corps will be able to sue YOU but not the other way around.

The police have computers and printers in their patrol cars, and one of the things those computers can do is request search warrants. He could have sent in his request before leaving the scene, and had the document he needed by the time he got to the hospital. NO excuse for this shit.

I can think of an officer who needs to be shoveling shit at the department's stables for the next five years.

Probably could have found a corrupt judge nonetheless, but he might have been denied as well.

him they couldn't because they didn't have probable cause.

The driver in the hospital had been hit head on by a man running from police. Police were probably hoping there was some substance in his blood to reduce their liability.

their liability and Salt Lake City's liability in one fell swoop.

asks him why they don't just get a warrant and he replies "...we don't have PC." (probable cause).

What they did is illegal

To obtain a warrant. Which, of course, makes the arrest of the nurse even more egregious.

This kind of brutality is the norm. So rare a Police Officer is ever removed from any City Police Force. It is the Culture of the State. Might is Right and it starts with their Cult.

The officer has proven to be a threat to public safety and should be immediately suspended pending an investigation.

under the color of law. That constitutes official misconduct and is an indictable offense. They cannot sweep this under the rug. The abusive officer must be held to account, as in firing and loss of pension in exchange for no jail time. The city owes the woman a bundle for emotional distress and other damages suffered at the hands of an unbalanced lunatic with a badge and gun issued by the City.

the training that must be done...

Let's break it down:

actions that took place- assault, kidnapping, unlawful imprisonment for starters

policies that could have prevented it- are already in place; start with Amendment 4 of the US Constitution

the training that must be done- every officer that was present should receive training on said Amendment and pertinent state laws, following a one week unpaid suspension. Upon successful completion of that training and passing a written test on the materials they may return to the street but they will be in a probationary status for 180 days. Failure to complete the probationary period without incident will result in termination.

That POS wearing his Trump NAZI pants and doing what any good 1940's NAZI would have done to anyone talking back. Oh my....he's now apologized?!?! So fucking what.............

This happened July 26. IF the video had not gone viral and been picked up by the news media, I don't think any action would have been taken.

only a camera and ONE good nurse exposed this cop on 'vacation'.

of the detective and the supervisor who told him to arrest her might be nice.

Nothing ever happens. Cops are literally god.