North Korea: Tremor detected in sign of possible nuclear test
Source: BBC
A large earth tremor has been detected in North Korea, raising speculation that the country has carried out its sixth nuclear test.
US seismologists said the 5.6 magnitude quake was recorded at a depth of 10km (six miles).
South Korea immediately convened a national security council meeting.
The tremor comes hours after North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was pictured with what state media said was a new type of hydrogen bomb.
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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41139445
Editing to add link and excerpt from the NY Times story:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/02/world/asia/north-korea-tremor-possible-6th-nuclear-test.html
If the North has tested another nuclear device, it would be an extraordinary show of defiance by North Koreas leader, Kim Jong-un, against Mr. Trump, who has warned he would unleash fire and fury against North Korea if Pyongyang continued to threaten the United States with nuclear missiles.
South Koreas Defense Ministry and Meteorological Administration said an artificial tremor with a magnitude of 5.6 had emanated from the Punggye-ri underground nuclear test in northwestern North Korea.
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Control-Z
(15,682 posts)so it never occurred to me that a tremor would be caused at the launch point and not (or also) at the point of impact. That is what they are implying, correct?
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NickB79
(19,258 posts)No missiles launched, just a very powerful bomb detonated in a mine shaft.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)And that I have wondered about. How they would test safely, and if that was even a concern to him.
burrowowl
(17,644 posts)underground testing has be done for a long time, even in the U$A. Instrumentation is planted (which is destroyed but transmits data to a remote location) along the path.
The launch point would not cause a tremor, just like our rocket launches (Apollo, etc. didn't).
highplainsdem
(49,025 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)BY REUTERS SEPTEMBER 3, 2017 07:29
BEIJING - China's Earthquake Administration said on Sunday that it detected another quake in North Korea of magnitude 4.6, which it termed as a "collapse."
A statement on the administration's website said the second quake, measured at a depth of zero kilometers, came eight minutes after the first quake, which it said was a "suspected explosion."
The coordinates of the two quakes were almost identical, according to figures provided by the administration.
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/China-says-detects-a-second-quake-in-North-Korea-504058
greyl
(22,990 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Haha, I had found references to multiple quakes from Korean nuke tests in September of 2016, thought you were referencing one of those, plus I'm still stuck in Aug.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Educate me someone. That must have been a pretty potent device...?
CNN International saying the last test was a 5.3 in magnitude with this being the largest being detected by some 30 seismic stations across the world.
still_one
(92,366 posts)Initech
(100,099 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,623 posts)but no radioactive material was released.
cstanleytech
(26,316 posts)Russia are detonating from their own arsenals in a partnership with North Korea to keep the US off balance as they have seen how unhinged Trump is.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)is my guess.
nitpicker
(7,153 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,352 posts)Link to tweet
(click on it to expand it to readability)
It was strong enough to make people in a Chinese border city think it could be an earthquake: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/03/north-korea-nuclear-test-south-korea-yohap-kim-jong-un-live?page=with:block-59abbf65e4b04a1acb62b82e#block-59abbf65e4b04a1acb62b82e
rtracey
(2,062 posts)In my opinion, its time for a regime change in NK. I think the US and South Korea need to work out a plan to reunify the 2 countries, go in "remove" the military regime, kill the nukes, and create Korea.... if you get bs from China or Russia, tell them to fuck themselves or they are next.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Suggesting? When you say the US should do that, who exactly would be the people doing that? You? Your sons, daughters, mother or father? Look if you want to go in there and do regime change, mount up and charge away. I think I will hang out here and see how that toppling of the world goes for you.
Or do what you want to do and wait for this arrogant fat little fucker to launch a missile into Guam. Yeah ok whoever youare, sit and wait, or better yet, go to Guam and volunteer.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)I actually never said anything I would do. I only said what I wouldn't do, and that is joining your one person regime change party since no government currently seems to want to join your crusade against at least 3 countries. That's a little ambitious but you seem confident you can whack all those countries and get em in line.
But I get where you're coming from. When people get scared they revert to their lowest instinct and just want to lash out and destroy anything in their view. It's a very basic reaction that happens when one doesn't have to think or care of consequences.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Its not 3 countries its one (my China and Russia comment was basically having the US telling them to mind their own business), and basically its one guy, because I believe in a regimes like NK, many would dance in the street if Kim was killed. If you think it hasnt been done before then you are kidding yourself. I prefer to do something then nothing. Seems to me there are some who are not taking Kim Jung serious. This guy is just about ready, not specifically with nukes, but ready to launch something, and I would prefer killing him, then having him kill out military on Guam, Japan, SK, anywhere.
NickB79
(19,258 posts)Instead, they threw IED's.
Kim may be a monstrous asshole, but he's their monstrous asshole. Invasion of your home country has a strong rallying effect among the populace.
NickB79
(19,258 posts)Your suggestion that we invade N. Korea and start a land war would guarantee tens of millions dead, and possibly start WW3. It would be a long, brutal slog for years under even the best of circumstances. And since we'd be the ones firing the first shots, we'd become international pariahs, meaning no help from anyone else, and all the rebuilding costs on our shoulders.
If they make the first strike, however, we'd see an international force form in response to assault the Hermit Kingdom. We could use our NATO mutual-defense pact to amass a massive military counterstrike.
Ironically, we'd probably see fewer US lives lost this way, even assuming most of the population of Guam were casualties.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)dalton99a
(81,566 posts)Yeah, tell them they are next
Patton had it right the first time.
NickB79
(19,258 posts)Until then, we deal with the situation we find ourselves in today. One way we deal with it is NOT suggesting we start a full-blown war with either Russia or China, because that way lies the extinction of most life on this planet.
Hahha ok good one..... Time machine...nice one, I didn't think of that one. Extinction of life on the planet.... no one seems to really address that, but you want to choice where to really be concerned?... not Nk, because I really do think there are "possible solutions" in place there. Be worried about Pakistan. The Taliban is way too close to those nukes... you want problems, look at that region. Why do you think we are in Afghanistan in the first place....
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Igel
(35,337 posts)are but a small price for us to pay for our safety.