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jpak

(41,759 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:24 PM Sep 2017

For first time in 300 years, no one is living on Barbuda

Source: CNN

(CNN)When Hurricane Irma ravaged the island of Barbuda in the Caribbean, the ferocious storm "extinguished" the isle's way of life and left the beautiful spot "uninhabitable." And, now, for the first time in a few centuries, no one lives there.

"The damage is complete," Ronald Sanders, the Antigua and Barbuda ambassador to the United States, told Public Radio International. "It's a humanitarian disaster.

"For the first time in 300 years, there's not a single living person on the island of Barbuda -- a civilization that has existed in that island for close to, over 300 years has now been extinguished."

Antigua and Barbuda -- which is located southeast of Puerto Rico and where the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean Sea meet -- became a sovereign state in the British commonwealth in 1981. Its population in July was estimated to be 94,731, with 97% of the population living on the island of Antigua, the CIA World Factbook said.

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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/15/americas/irma-barbuda-population-trnd/index.html



Just a reminder - global warming is a hoax made in China....
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For first time in 300 years, no one is living on Barbuda (Original Post) jpak Sep 2017 OP
OMG, this is just so sad. lark Sep 2017 #1
No, that's the total population DavidDvorkin Sep 2017 #2
You meant Barbuda. nt marybourg Sep 2017 #14
Right DavidDvorkin Sep 2017 #23
I looked up Barbuda on Wikipedia... SummerSnow Sep 2017 #4
that's the total population of Barbuda and Antigua together barbtries Sep 2017 #6
Thanks for the clarification. lark Sep 2017 #7
Minimal damage. nt marybourg Sep 2017 #15
Heartbreaking. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #3
given that global warming is no hoax, barbtries Sep 2017 #5
As time goes on and the effects of global warming grow worse... Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 #8
300 years?? Wow. Eurocentric much?? malchickiwick Sep 2017 #9
I thought that, too obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #11
It's a small island in what was a sparsely populated world. marybourg Sep 2017 #17
I happen to know the island was inhabited for thousands of years pre-contact: Hence my post. malchickiwick Sep 2017 #20
I think the way to understand the article is this. Igel Sep 2017 #26
Thanks, but I'll stick with my original explanation: Eurocentrism malchickiwick Sep 2017 #28
Small island paleotn Sep 2017 #19
Actually, Native people across the Caribbean enjoyed a plethora of resources. malchickiwick Sep 2017 #22
Baruda's population pre Irma & Jose was approx. 1,800 obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #10
"illegal Spanish immigrants" -- nicely stated. malchickiwick Sep 2017 #21
Yes, climate change made Harvey and Irma worse melm00se Sep 2017 #12
Severe Hurricanes are a "Liberal Myth" ThoughtCriminal Sep 2017 #13
It will be interesting for scientist to study how the natural BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #16
Antigua and Barbuda are an independent state. procon Sep 2017 #18
You know, more and more I wonder if we should rebuild where Mother Earth has spoken adigal Sep 2017 #24
Silly people! Don't you know Barbuda was all a Chinese hoax? tclambert Sep 2017 #25
I, for one, had never even heard of the place. robbob Sep 2017 #27
the indigenous people lived there for thousands of years cntrfthrs Sep 2017 #29

lark

(23,158 posts)
1. OMG, this is just so sad.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:28 PM
Sep 2017

94,731 people have no place to live, have lost everything, this is almost beyond belief, but we tragically know it's true. My heart is breaking for them and all the others devastated by the killer storm.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
6. that's the total population of Barbuda and Antigua together
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:55 PM
Sep 2017

"97% of the population living on the island of Antigua" - Barbuda accounted for somewhere around 3,000 people, these people have lost all including the island where they lived.

lark

(23,158 posts)
7. Thanks for the clarification.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:14 PM
Sep 2017

I wonder how Antigua is doing since it's right there? I haven't heard anything specific about that island.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
5. given that global warming is no hoax,
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:52 PM
Sep 2017

my best wishes to the people who lost not just their house but their home and way of life. having said that i hope they all choose to put down roots elsewhere, and wish them great success going forward.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
8. As time goes on and the effects of global warming grow worse...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:19 PM
Sep 2017

... more and more places in the world will be abandoned. People might still move back to Barbuda, but only for a while. Eventually it, along with other low-lying islands and coastlines, will have to be abandoned. It's a taste of things to come.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
9. 300 years?? Wow. Eurocentric much??
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:38 PM
Sep 2017

I guess we just won't count the people who resided there for thousands of years prior to the arrival of Euros.

marybourg

(12,635 posts)
17. It's a small island in what was a sparsely populated world.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:02 PM
Sep 2017

It may not have been inhabited. I don't have any specific info either way, but it's not a given that there was an indigenous population pre-contact.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
20. I happen to know the island was inhabited for thousands of years pre-contact: Hence my post.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:35 PM
Sep 2017

Arawaks migrated there, and later Caribs, originally from South America.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
26. I think the way to understand the article is this.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:20 PM
Sep 2017

The Caribs didn't form permanent settlements; they were seasonal visitors that harvested what grew in the waters and on the land.

The British did form permanent settlements. The Arawaks were also year-round dwellers. But between the two the island had no permanent inhabitants. That's all that's required for the claim to be true: That at some point in the 1600s there be no year-round settlements for several years. There's no claim about the 1500s CE or before.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
28. Thanks, but I'll stick with my original explanation: Eurocentrism
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:35 AM
Sep 2017

I'm pretty sure the Taino, who were an Arawakan people, had permanent settlements there going back centuries if not millennia before being eradicated by the Euros.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
19. Small island
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:23 PM
Sep 2017

with limited resources for traditional hunter gatherer societies. Africans and Euros may very well have been the first inhabitants

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
22. Actually, Native people across the Caribbean enjoyed a plethora of resources.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:43 PM
Sep 2017

The sea provided immense bounty, of course, but the Arawaks were also quite proficient agriculturalists (not simply "hunter-gatherers&quot , raising maize, peanuts, tomato, squash, beans and even a type of sweet potato.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
10. Baruda's population pre Irma & Jose was approx. 1,800
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:40 PM
Sep 2017

Not 94k.

Also, people lived there way longer than 300 years -- they were just murdered by the illegal Spanish immigrants.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
16. It will be interesting for scientist to study how the natural
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:00 PM
Sep 2017

plants and wildlife will flourish on the island in the future.

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. Antigua and Barbuda are an independent state.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:11 PM
Sep 2017

Barbuda relies chiefly on tourism as the primary revenue source. They can't recover on their own without massive outside help to rebuild their infrastructure and housing so that they can attract resort and tourist investors who might consider new venue construction projects. This is years away for the people who lived there, but they still need jobs, food and housing, and everything else.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
24. You know, more and more I wonder if we should rebuild where Mother Earth has spoken
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:46 PM
Sep 2017

How many times will we rebuild down the Jersey shore? Parts of Long Beach Island have been decimated several times. Same with the Outer Banks and the low-lying Keys.

Not even counting the cost, which we all pay for through federal flood insurance (often to people WAY wealthier than the average American) it just may be smart to move back from the sea. Cause it will happen over and over.

robbob

(3,538 posts)
27. I, for one, had never even heard of the place.
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:51 AM
Sep 2017

Before this alleged "hurricane" supposedly devastated this so called "Barbuda".

cntrfthrs

(252 posts)
29. the indigenous people lived there for thousands of years
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:50 PM
Sep 2017

before genocide came to their shores 300 years ago...

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