At U.N., Trump says U.S. may have to 'totally destroy' North Korea
Source: Reuters
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump warned on Tuesday that the United States will be forced to totally destroy North Korea unless Pyongyang backs down from its nuclear challenge, mocking North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as a rocket man on a suicide mission.
Loud murmurs filled the green-marbled U.N. General Assembly hall when Trump issued his sternest warning yet to North Korea, whose ballistic missile launches and nuclear tests have rattled the globe.
Unless North Korea backs down, he said, We will have no choice than to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and his regime, he said.
He urged United Nations member states to work together to isolate the Kim government until it ceases its hostile behavior.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-assembly-trump/at-u-n-trump-says-u-s-may-have-to-totally-destroy-north-korea-idUSKCN1BU0B3
underpants
(182,877 posts)IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)and is not above publicly hurling idiotic insults at world leaders to provoke them into unnecessary war
brush
(53,843 posts)that happen in their neighborhood.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)to provoke N. Korea to launch an attack on this country, to have an excuse to invade them? Either that, or he is completely insane. We need to demand a mental evaluation of this clown. Alzheimers or Dementia? The people surrounding him know the truth.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)and foolishly believes there won't be consequences
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)Of all the dipshit things Trump has ever done, this is the STUPIDEST!
He's playing with fire now and he's daring Kim to do something. What an asshole.
It's the South Koreans who will pay the price for Cheeto's stupidity. They've trusted us and we're letting them down.
This kind of talk has to end, and the GOP has to be the ones to tell him.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,789 posts)of the Peninsula itself. Lest he suffer the consequences of total destruction of Seoul, which the North will accomplish within minutes of firing a barrage of over 14,000 rounds of conventional weapons at. Osan Air Base, home to over 28,000 American troops and Aircraft. Millions dead.
Not to mention the rest of the South will be in ruins with the Winter Olympics to be hosted in February of 2018 in PyeongChang.
The Donald does not have an inkling of what he is up against.
LudwigPastorius
(9,167 posts)North Korea preemptively.
Probable targets include South Korea, Japan, Guam, Northern Marianas, American Samoa, Midway, Hawaii.
If they are retaliating to a US nuclear strike on the DPRK that happens during the winter, China may target South Korea and Japan with nuclear weapons. The jet stream would carry most of the fallout away from them.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)All they need do is block off their harbors. Thanks to Ronald Fucking Reagan and his love of offshoring, the United States cannot function without Chinese-made products. Fuck dude, we can't even make military uniforms without China because all the dyestuffs plants are there. You ever try fighting a war in the summer in a white uniform? And we've faced this exact crisis before: the reason we have a chemical industry in this country is Germany, the home of dye manufacturing before World War I, cut off our supplies of dye just as we entered The War To End All Wars. And now we're in a worse condition...because we don't have the resources (like land, which is covered in high-dollar housing) to rebuild the dyeworks.
Add to that the Chinese Navy's submarine fleet, who could sink any container ship heading toward the US.
Well guys, now we know Phase 2 in the Russian Underpants Gnomes' business plan:
Phase 1: install an incompetent and dangerous psychopath as president of the United States
Phase 2: let him destroy the US economy
Phase 3: rush in and scoop up the debris at three cents on the dollar
And to think forty years ago the Republicans were AGAINST this shit.
former9thward
(32,077 posts)You apparently think the U.S. military has no ability whatsoever to respond to attacks.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Do me a favor: Read a little bit about the 1973 oil crisis. OPEC declared an embargo on oil shipments to the US in retaliation for us supporting Israel during the Yom Kippur War. It damn near destroyed the US economy. The Chinese could do exactly the same thing by embargoing shipments of merchandise from China to the US.
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)With a trillion dollars in US securities that they're never getting back if they start a trade war? You really believe they'll risk a trillion(!) dollars over NK?
former9thward
(32,077 posts)Did OPEC sink ships going to the U.S. as you said the Chinese would? Do you think the U.S. would allow that to happen? I was alive and just starting into the workforce during the 73 crisis. No, it did not "damn near destroyed the US economy." That is ridiculous. Just look at the economic statistics.
EX500rider
(10,856 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Thanks to our Republicans, the Chinese have a significant industrial base that we no longer do. They can manufacture their way out of any crisis Trump creates.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The Olympics is scheduled to begin next February. To move it at this late stage, they'd have to do it now and they'd have to go somewhere nothing had to be built.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)and just doesn't give two shits about what happens
The most dangerous manchild in the world for this time period
History will not be kind to tRump by any stretch of anyones imagination.
ETA: Can we say I told you so to the dickheads who voted for his sorry orange ass
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,182 posts)antithetical to the Charter of the United Nations. Why wasn't Trump called out for that?
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)threatening to destroy a country will deliberately provoke unstable people to do very dangerous things since they are backed into a corner and facing extinction.
no_hypocrisy
(46,182 posts)Article 2, paragraph 4 of the UN charter reads All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations. http://www.un.org/ /sections/un-charter/chapter-i/index.html
doc03
(35,364 posts)would be able to put up much of a fight. But what would China do?
atreides1
(16,093 posts)So, you're willing bet the lives of hundreds of thousands of South Koreans on that assumption?
You don't think that the North has infiltrators already in the South? Working in different areas of the country, maybe even working on US military bases?
And what about possible intel provided by the Chinese?
The Chinese will not tolerate a Western allied South Korea gaining control of the peninsula, that was one of the reasons the Chinese came over their borders in 1950!
This time the Chinese are both better trained and better equipped!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)We've heard much about NK's heavily fortified and armored border and the almost certain damage they can do to SK. In addition, although it's questionable if they have quality nuclear ICBM capability, I just had the nasty thought that they could quite easily lob a small nuke or at least a dirty bomb across that border!
Talking heads also frequently disregard their armed multimillion-man domestic reserves.
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IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)and of course North Korea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)sarisataka
(18,770 posts)To project military force. The Japanese knew that and took a calculated risk.
NK has no such projection capability. They can mess up Japan however and China has nuclear options if not conventional power projection.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)for no good reason. Losing trade with China alone would F us up since everything is made there. It would be painful when we don't have essential parts for stuff that we depend on like vehicles and equipment.
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)Instead of NK.
You are sadly correct that we have given up the self-sufficiency we, as a nation, prided ourselves on. We are far more dependent on trade than the majority of people realize.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)but the economic punishments from China alone would ruin us as a nation very quickly.
We would be the nation that no one wants to work with but we have lots of dangerous weapons and leadership that has proven to be deadly insane. We would become North Korea.
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)China funds a Mexican built wall on the US border to cut off access to labor several US industries depend on. Additionally the wall blocks the smuggling of Chinese parts into the US, needed to keep machines and vehicles operational
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)China could use economic leverage against any or all of our allies! Try fighting that war alone, eh?
niyad
(113,550 posts)pdxflyboy
(678 posts)TommyCelt
(838 posts)...is World War III
LudwigPastorius
(9,167 posts)If they attack Japan, South Korea, or any of the U.S. territories in the Pacific, our probable response would be to go after Beijing.
That knowledge may force China to "use them or lose them" and launch everything at the continental U.S.
Whether that happens depends on China's ability to command its nuclear sub fleet after taking a hit.
Once the ICBMs start flying, Russia will not stand by and miss the opportunity to completely destroy the U.S.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)and make the US into a very poor and ineffective economy that no one wants to trade with
harun
(11,348 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)which armies would retaliate against us on our land?
And will all these rah rah nazi boys and girls step up and fight on foreign soil? Or even US soil!
Tikki
edbermac
(15,945 posts)"Let's kill a commie for Dad!"
KPN
(15,650 posts)he gets us all killed.
Playing the bully bard against the rest of the frigging world? This is just totally fucking nuts.
dhill926
(16,355 posts)at that point. Something has to be done to stop this madman...
onecent
(6,096 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,614 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)Past even the Twilight Zone, unless we really take a look hard at this.
I am trying to think of future history books (or ereaders, whatever!) if this went down. A pathetic businessman gets elected to the highest office, and without ever actually doing anything at all for the good of the country, starts this horrendous war. Those future people are going to think we were very stupid for letting this happen.
I know tRump and his ilk do not study history, but surely there are those in Congress who will do something.
Bayard
(22,148 posts)Or did someone actually write this for him?
Wondering how many in Congress are indebted to war profiteers......
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)One has to wonder how batguano crazy the speech would have been if he went off script.
Hekate
(90,788 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I detest him!
The world should detest him too.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)Kittycow
(2,396 posts)I think it's going to take a National Draft ala the 60s before the majority of citizens will get off their asses and demand action against trump. This includes his supporters, both young and old. If it's their families getting killed, maybe some of his base will be peeled away.
Maybee. ..
jeffreyi
(1,943 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)garbage bag pongid piece of shit scum sucking treason weasel
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)trying to kill millions of Americans and selling the country off, while this asshole is running around who is clearly fucking insane and a megalomaniac, and then there is the media, what does fucking Mooves have to say now?
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)From moron to idiot to dumb fuck, what is the next step down?
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)sarisataka
(18,770 posts)Excuse me while I get some screen cleaner...
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)If there really is a "nefarious deep state" or the diabolical CIA exists, now would be the time for them to show up.....
Duppers
(28,126 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)N Korea is not going to back down. They will not give up their nuclear weapons, which they see as essential to the preservation of the nation. If Trump keeps his word, there will be nuclear war.
And to everyone who insisted Hillary was a war monger they couldn't vote for: FUCK YOU.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Obama was heavily criticized for his "red line" comment for weeks. Trump seems to be getting a pass on mass genocide.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)about the extent to which orders from Trump are illegal.
If they are, military personnel are obligated to disobey.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)President Trump took to the floor of the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday and, in his maiden speech there, called the leader of North Korea Rocket Man, decried loser terrorists and said certain parts of the world are in fact, going to hell.
But Trump's perhaps oddly chosen colloquialisms masked what was a pretty astounding escalation of his rhetoric when it comes to North Korea. Just to be clear: The president of the United States threatened to wipe a country of 25 million people off the map.
Now North Korea's reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of human life, Trump said. He later added: The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself.
Trump's rhetoric on North Korea has been very tough before. He turned heads last month by threatening to unleash fire and fury if North Korea and its leader, Kim Jong Un, threatened the United States. But Trump's speech Tuesday ratcheted things up in two respects: saying the United States would also unleash a massive response on behalf of its allies, and threatening to totally destroy the country.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)The real question is when do other countries start boycotting and walkout of his addresses?
doc03
(35,364 posts)make them control Un's madness. I don't know what else we can do, we can't permit NK to develop a
nuke and a delivery system capable of hitting the US. Sometimes you have to let your opponent think you are just as
crazy as he is. Everyone tried to appease Hitler until it was too late. It's obvious the last several Administrations failed
to stop NK with diplomacy.