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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:00 PM Sep 2017

Florida Gov. Scotts office deleted all 4 calls for help from nursing home where 11 died after Irma

Source: Raw Story


David Ferguson
23 SEP 2017 AT 19:36 ET

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R)’s office said Friday that the frantic calls for help from a nursing home where 11 elderly patients died have been deleted from the governor’s cell phone and cannot be used as evidence in the criminal probe of the deaths.

CBS Miami reported that when they contacted Scott’s office to obtain the voice mails, spokeswoman said, “The voicemails were not retained.”

Instead, she said, aides to the governor wrote down the information in the messages, then deleted them.

Natasha Anderson — a vice president with The Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills, the facility where the patients died — said she was provided the governor’s cell phone number and instructed to call it if there was an emergency.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/florida-gov-scotts-office-deleted-all-4-calls-for-help-from-nursing-home-where-11-died-after-irma/

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Florida Gov. Scotts office deleted all 4 calls for help from nursing home where 11 died after Irma (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2017 OP
WOW bettyellen Sep 2017 #1
OMG ailsagirl Sep 2017 #2
Hmm? I bet they are there somewhere? Freethinker65 Sep 2017 #3
the wireless carrier cojoel Sep 2017 #7
I'm sure.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #28
Well, the messages are laying around someplace I would think-or the person that took riversedge Sep 2017 #4
That's what bad guys do. Iggo Sep 2017 #5
Yeah, "what do they expect me to do about this?" (erase) Warpy Sep 2017 #8
Generators. hay rick Sep 2017 #14
Hmmm, this is an interesting development in the face of imminent criminal charges and lawsuits. George II Sep 2017 #6
This will certainly have repercussions FakeNoose Sep 2017 #9
he's a fraudster his whole life KG Sep 2017 #10
cover-up onetexan Sep 2017 #11
He was too busy campaigning for Senator on The Weather Channel w Rubio nt RandiFan1290 Sep 2017 #12
Isn't that destruction of evidence? If so is it an impeachable offense? cstanleytech Sep 2017 #13
Probably a felony. Felons lose their voting rights in Florida. Tanuki Sep 2017 #15
Per Florida law: Tanuki Sep 2017 #16
Florida's Sunshine law requires keeping of ALL governmental records csziggy Sep 2017 #26
this really is a crying shame & shame on him and anyone who covers for him luvMIdog Sep 2017 #17
Are you kidding, Rick Scott has always been a un-American pos rockfordfile Sep 2017 #18
no I'm not kidding. I think it's a sad crying shame that it happened. luvMIdog Sep 2017 #19
SURPRISE Goonch Sep 2017 #20
Twins? area51 Sep 2017 #29
Soo.. guss Sep 2017 #21
Murder. n/t librechik Sep 2017 #22
Aside about your sig .gif PDittie Sep 2017 #30
couldn't even take the time to run over a couple generators or call & check. murderers, all of them. Sunlei Sep 2017 #23
the phone company can restore deleted voicemails, no matter they have the "written message" record. Sunlei Sep 2017 #24
I told my husband this was going to be so much more than what it appeared to be on the surface. herding cats Sep 2017 #25
Ask former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick about deleted voicemails and text messages! TheDebbieDee Sep 2017 #27
This is an extremely important story..nt Stuart G Sep 2017 #31
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #32
Senator questions why Gov. Scott deleted nursing home voicemails Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #33
the scummiest bluestarone Sep 2017 #34

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
28. I'm sure....
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 01:01 AM
Sep 2017

The NSA has them.

I guess it would depend on when they were deleted. If it was after the investigation started Governor Scott may have some 'splaining to do! He might also have some prison time to serve.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
8. Yeah, "what do they expect me to do about this?" (erase)
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:06 PM
Sep 2017

While I find it likely emergency equipment couldn't get through at the time, I also have to wonder why the facility didn't have a backup generator with a drum of fuel.

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
14. Generators.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:01 PM
Sep 2017

I believe they had generators but not any that with sufficient power to run the building AC. They powered fans and spot coolers instead.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
9. This will certainly have repercussions
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:08 PM
Sep 2017

I sure hope the phone company can at least show that the calls were made.
If there's no digital copy of the actual messages, then I guess they have to take Natasha Anderson's word for it.


Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
16. Per Florida law:
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:08 PM
Sep 2017
http://www.husseinandwebber.com/crimes/public-order-obstruction/tampering-with-evidence/

"EVIDENCE TAMPERING UNDER FLORIDA LAWDEFINITION, PENALTIES, AND DEFENSES

In Florida, tampering with physical evidence is a criminal offense that carries felony penalties of up to 5 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Evidence tampering is any alteration, concealment, or destruction of a document or thing to impede an investigation or legal proceeding.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
26. Florida's Sunshine law requires keeping of ALL governmental records
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:15 PM
Sep 2017
A. Electronic Recordkeeping is defined in Rule 1B-26.003, Florida Administrative Code, which provides standards and guidelines for creation and maintenance of record (master) copies of public records in electronic form. Public records are those as defined by Section 119.011(12), Florida Statutes.Feb 19, 2015
General Records - Florida Department of State - MyFlorida.com
http://dos.myflorida.com/media/693574/general-records-schedulegs01-sl.pdf


For instance, in the PDF document linked above disaster relief and response records must be kept for 5 years. Electronic records must be kept according to the same standards as paper records and while they will allow paper printouts, retention of the original electronic records is recommended.

Not only are there rigorous requirements for keeping public records, there are strict guidelines for destruction of them.

The Sunshine Law is one of the best things about Florida - but since Jeb Bush began the reign of Republican governors many parts of the law have been ignored.

guss

(239 posts)
21. Soo..
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:20 PM
Sep 2017

Rick Scott office Couldn't be bothered by a plea for help by the elderly?
I hope this reflects on his reelection.
Rick Scott made alot of on camera appearances but ignored nursing homes
WTG Lurch !!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. couldn't even take the time to run over a couple generators or call & check. murderers, all of them.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:29 PM
Sep 2017

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. the phone company can restore deleted voicemails, no matter they have the "written message" record.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:41 PM
Sep 2017

the "home" should have done more- soon as peoples temps started to rise towards 100. a hospital was across the street!

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
25. I told my husband this was going to be so much more than what it appeared to be on the surface.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:03 PM
Sep 2017

The initial claim by the nursing home that they'd been seeking help is too easy to prove or disrupt for it to be totally bogus.

No matter how many people messed up, it's still heartbreaking what the outcome was.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
27. Ask former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick about deleted voicemails and text messages!
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:16 PM
Sep 2017

The FBI was able to retrieve his DELETED messages and use them to convict him of corruption and pay for play activities...

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
33. Senator questions why Gov. Scott deleted nursing home voicemails
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:40 PM
Sep 2017

Gray Rohrer
Tallahassee Bureau
SEPTEMBER 25, 2017 6:00 PM

TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Rick Scott’s staff might have broken the law when it deleted voicemails left by workers at a Hollywood nursing home where 11 residents died after Hurricane Irma, a South Florida lawmaker says.

Sen. Gary Farmer, D-Fort Lauderdale, who represents the district that includes the Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills where the deaths occurred, says erasing the voicemails could be a violation of state public records laws.

“Clearly there is significant content and purpose behind those voicemails,” said Farmer, a trial attorney. “They go to a matter that is in controversy right now, which is who did what when and why with regard to the emergency situation at this nursing home.”

Scott gave his personal cellphone number to nursing homes and assisted living facilities as Irma approached, but the four messages they left the governor weren’t kept, as first reported by CBS4’s Jim DeFede.

More:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-gov-scott-deleted-voice-mails-20170925-story.html

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