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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:05 PM Sep 2017

Exclusive: Trump, GOP to cut top rate to 35 percent

Source: Axios

President Trump and Republican leaders plan to cut the top tax rate for the wealthiest Americans to 35 percent and dramatically reduce taxes on big and small businesses, according to details leaked to Axios.

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The big change: The GOP leaders and the White House plan to cut the top tax rate for small businesses — known as "pass-throughs" — from 39.6 percent to 25 percent. (Currently small businesses pay the same tax rates as individuals, and this puts them at a disadvantage to larger corporations, which pay lower rates.)

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Top individual tax rate cut from 39.6 to 35. The current seven income tax brackets collapsed to three, as part of simplification. (Axios hasn't obtained the other two rates.)

Axios can confirm that the Big Six agreed to cut the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent. That key detail leaked last night to the Washington Post. (Trump has said he wants the corporate rate to be 15 percent.)

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Read more: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trump-gop-to-cut-top-rate-to-35-percent-2488858973.html

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Exclusive: Trump, GOP to cut top rate to 35 percent (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2017 OP
About that national debt ..... TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #1
He wants to pay no taxes and have us pay it all...He isnt qualified to Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #2
This proposal is absolutely for Trump and his kin. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #15
Haven't we been down this road before? Roy Rolling Sep 2017 #3
Here comes a nasty currency crisis. roamer65 Sep 2017 #4
I thought he said !5% They_Live Sep 2017 #5
Zombie Reaganomics, here we go again... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #6
There is one sure way to shut this shit down quick jmowreader Sep 2017 #7
Make the top tax rate..... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #9
Works for me... jmowreader Sep 2017 #10
To hell with complicated loopholes and deductions DFW Sep 2017 #11
Or we could do this... jmowreader Sep 2017 #12
I don't mind deductibles for charity or if they give an incentive to employ DFW Sep 2017 #18
The bottom rate was only something like 10%. Igel Sep 2017 #16
Will his base ever hear this? kimbutgar Sep 2017 #8
"The current seven income tax brackets collapsed to three" BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #13
The key brackets are the unknown ones. Rates will be RAISED on everyone below the top 35% level. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #14
Cut small buisiness tax rate because of disadvantage Bradical79 Sep 2017 #17
i see bluestarone Sep 2017 #19

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
2. He wants to pay no taxes and have us pay it all...He isnt qualified to
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:14 PM
Sep 2017

run a kool aid stand on the side of the road, let alone this.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
3. Haven't we been down this road before?
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:26 PM
Sep 2017

Cutting taxes will magically result in more taxes being collected? Except that it never works out like that and government services are cut.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
7. There is one sure way to shut this shit down quick
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:28 PM
Sep 2017

"No wall or other fortification shall be built on the US-Mexican border if the top income tax rate is not at least 42 percent."

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
9. Make the top tax rate.....
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 12:57 AM
Sep 2017

the same as it was during the Republican Eisenhower administration. 92%

That's right, ninety two percent!

If it was good enough for Eisenhower's multi-millionaires, it should be fair enough for Trump's multi-billionaires.

I think that's more than fair.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
10. Works for me...
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 01:01 AM
Sep 2017

On edit: During the Eisenhower Administration there were far more deductions and credits than we have now. To make a high tax rate palatable you'd have to bring most of them back.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
11. To hell with complicated loopholes and deductions
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 02:30 AM
Sep 2017

The more here are, the more they will be abused. Today, 90% marginal income tax is a non-starter. It will just lead to capital flight and American jobs moving offshore. All one has to do is keep rates at reasonable levels, and make them apply as broadly as possible. There is no need at all to lower the top rate from 39.6% to 35%. Just make sure there are less deductions that make it possible to pay 15% if you really make $10 million, and take care not to make the highest rates look like a "jealousy tax." Whether it's a $75,000 threshold or a $10 million threshold, any time a state takes more than half what someone earns, they tend to find ways to hide it.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
12. Or we could do this...
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 02:36 AM
Sep 2017

What would a flat 25 percent on all income, no deductions whatsoever, on anyone whose gross income is $1 million or above?

I like loopholes because they force the rich to employ people, donate to charity, etc,, to exploit them. They aren't free money. But if you want to get rid of them, set the top rate high enough we're still getting as big a percentage from the rich as we get from their employees.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
18. I don't mind deductibles for charity or if they give an incentive to employ
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:04 PM
Sep 2017

There are plenty of others, though, that are only on the books to enable top rate payers to pay less. As someone who has been affected by cancer in the family WAY too many times, I'm all for deductions to things like cancer research and care (for example) up to any sum. Or to universities for scholarship funds, stuff like that. As for a flat tax on income over a million, if there's a way to pay 25% on marginal income over $1 million, I'll bet there are plenty of people in that category that would like to hear bout it.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
16. The bottom rate was only something like 10%.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:00 AM
Sep 2017

On the other hand, it applied to the first $1000 in income and even if you had low income you still paid federal income tax. None of this "the bottom 40% pays virtually nothing".

If it was good enough during the Democratic Truman administration it's good now, too. Because we all want to be in the 1950s.

(And there were fewer deductions available to lower income earners. Back in the '50s there were all kinds of nifty tax shelters for the rich. It's why the rates keep changing, but the amount of income tax tends to stay the same. More recently the lower deciles have paid significantly less federal income tax as a proportional of all income tax paid and the higher income earners much more. You get bumps and slumps in the amount each subgroup of taxpayers pay when there are changes, but they tend to go away as tax strategies are adjusted to accommodate the new rates. No one group gets to decide "fair" for the other 80%.

(In other words, it pays not to cherry pick one fact because reality in the '50s was composed of a bunch of interrelated facts that hung together.)

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
13. "The current seven income tax brackets collapsed to three"
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 07:05 AM
Sep 2017

Back to this regressive bullshit again.

It would probably end up being 15%, 25%, 35%, where they may claim anyone "under" a certain income won't have to pay at all, but they will eliminate all the deductions that lower income folks rely on (but keep the ones for the wealthy) and thus anyone in the 10% bracket will ultimately be increased to 15% & the 15%ers to 25%. Meanwhile the 39%ers get dropped to 35% and with additional loopholes that will be quietly inserted, will drop them down to an effective 15% (because that is how they roll).

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. Cut small buisiness tax rate because of disadvantage
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:20 AM
Sep 2017

to large corporations. Cut corporate tax rate even more to give big corporations an even bigger advantage. Disgusting manipulation.

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