how much higher the death toll would be if he had a silencer on the gun? The gop is pushing through a law about silencers, so these mass shooters will be able to kill SO many more people before they are stopped. This country is so screwed up. We have a lunatic in the WH, supported by wimpy money grubbing gop politicians, all making themselves richer. When one of their own (Scalise) got shot, it was a "national tragedy", ordinary citizens? Ho hum.

He may actually have had a suppressor on the gun. (they aren't silencers) hard to tell from the videos. The cell phone mic may have just maxxed out, or he might have had one on.

and the flight ban list

Muslim man jay walking... ban list
Mexican in an auto accident, build that wall

back when the Atlanta Olympics bombing happened

Took the woman's last name they were looking for and tied it to him.they will make up anything.they have no shame.

Pulling stuff out of their ass.a 64 year old man part of antifa?...yeah sure.

I was sure I would log into DU to see lots of new members with very low post counts and Russian IP addresses informing us it was muslims or antifa or some BS like that before any news outlets report it. We've seen that in the immediate aftermath of lots of mass shootings lately.

And yes of course we can't talk about gun control at this time because that would insensitive to the victims. We also can't talk about the radicalization of angry white males. So might as well blame country music instead. Or the sinful nature of Las Vegas.

Dear God, we're in trouble.

You actually felt "relief" that its a white guy? Were you sadder when last weeks church mass shooter was revealed to be a black man? Because here on DU, the fact that its a white guy will open the flood gates from many in the OTHER direction. Thats OK?
Both deserve scorn for their acts. And now we wait to find a reason, if there is one..

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Right now, over on twitter, the haters are spewing hate because "he looks Jewish." "He's an anti-Trump Democrat & n-----lover."

You completely missed my point. Give me a goddamned break with your self-righteousness. If you hate DU so much, why are you here?

There are thousands & thousands of members here; its not hard to find some that will seize the opportunity to lambaste whatever particular person or persons may be responsible for a heinous crime if they don't like them. If you haven't seen any that can be seen as anti white then you haven't been reading. Just as its easy to find anti Semitic posts in a lot of ME related stories. Israel gets blamed for hot weather if theres a chance
We're not immune to it here.
And Twitter can't be trusted for anything with the realization that so many acts are fake.
I'm still gonna wait till I see just who this bastard is and if there was any motive at all.

"Because here on DU, the fact that its a white guy will open the flood gates from many in the OTHER direction. Thats OK? "

All I was saying is the hatred that would spew from SCROTUS & his cult would be unbearable if the shooter had been any race but white, then you jump down my throat & say that DU will be disparaging, I don't know, white guys, just like right wingers would be spewing hatred at a non-white shooter.

And I honestly don't know why you've been here "for years" if you have such a low opinion of your fellow DUers, that's all.

Somehow I haven't seen that one before

It's not like he tripped on his shoelaces while carrying a gun and shot all those people by accident.

We just like to think there isn't a reason when the beast looks like us... which always seems to be the narrative pushed by our media and politicians.

He's white though, so it's not a terrorist act and nothing but "thoughts and prayers" will happen.

We need to find out WHY this happened, not what race the person is! Just another symptom of a society that loves to BLAME before they know the reality of a situation!

I thought - thank goodness it's an old white guy.

We can't stand anymore of our liberties being curtailed by the uselessness that comes about when it is a person of color or a Muslim.

Involved for terrorism...that's what Hannity says anyway..

Police said they have succeeded in locating a woman, identified as Marilou Danley, who was believed to be traveling with Paddock and is listed as living at his address in Mesquite, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. “We are confident we have located the female person of interest,” the department said on Twitter.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las-vegas-mandalay-bay-20171001-story.html

Paging Geraldo ....

She might be concerned about being a straw purchaser of one of his many guns if she did purchase at least one for him. That landed the woman who purchased for the nut who killed the firemen a trip to the pen.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/17/dawn-nguyen-ny-firefighter-ambush-sentenced/15778133/

Hearing this woman may have warned local police about this person just before the shooting started. Just a rumor I saw via comment on PennLive.


http://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2017/10/who_is_stephen_paddock_police.html#incart_river_home

Paddock apparently lived in Mesquite. A lot of white supremacist/militia types gathered around there at one point.

in the areas away from the major metropolitan areas in Nevada.

The whole bundy mess emboldened them.

they were moving to Las Vegas. The excuse was everything was "so new" and LV didn't have the "problems" of Los Angeles.

White flight, and it was very obvious, sincere as they may have been in their admiration of all the new houses and strip malls. I was nice and didn't tell them what I knew as an appraiser--that the average economic life of a strip mall or "plaza," including with supermarkets, is about a decade. When the anchor store moves to a new location, Good Will or a budget furniture store moves in, etc.

Of natural causes, or what?

He obviously didn't just die.

by police," mass murder category, but it would still be possible he killed himself as they closed in on him.

Let's support responsible journalism wherever it shows up.

Not that hard.

It is not inaccurate information. It is vague. If the reporter had just made up out of whole cloth how the man died, and it was learned later that he died in a different manner, *that* would be inaccurate. The police decided to withhold the information, for whatever their reason was. I can't imagine that the reporter would not have asked.

when police entered his room.
So I wouldn't assume that reporter was briefed by police and that is the reason for the wording. It could be that saying
"where he died" is the most accurate reporter came up with because it isn't clear if suspect was killed by police or killed himself.

I don't think you know anything about newspaper reporters, so it's fruitless to keep talking to you.

Watch dipshit cut off travel from Puerto Rico to the mainland "just in case".

want to go.

as long as the supplies and military personnel get there and people get the help they need.

Trump mostly gets in the way and says stupid things so they're better off without him.

He'll just be pontificating down his nose at the people anyway.

nm

He is a blue-eyed, flowing blonde haired, white male who is carrying a fully automatic, American made M14.

He can’t be a terrorist.


If needed:

If a guy with a room full of guns kills fifty people and wounds another 200, and that is NOT a terrorist attack then what is it?

Wait, I can guess: just another mass shooting in America. At least his Second Amendment rights were not infringed.

As for his victims, well, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" are NOT enshrined in the Constitution's Bill of Rights. Those are words from the Declaration of Independence.

White guy....eh,loner all his life,loved guns,got a bit "crazy" later on in life. No terrorism,just thoughts and prayers.

Not the safest combination of attributes for a guy on the 32nd floor of a hotel room overlooking a concert crowd.

He TERRORIZED thousands of people

I am a volunteer and I work in the surgery waiting room checking people in.

The TV is on and the news is talking about the Las Vegas shooting. A guy in the waiting room actually just said if all those people in the crowd had guns they would have taken that guy out immediately.

...across the street, how could people in the crowd have taken the guy out?

Just open fire and hit anything that moves or looks like it's shooting

And when he said it he knew the logistics of it because they were talking about it on the news.

Room facing 300,000 people in the open, with the advantage of position.

Could he even specify that location for the room or did he just get lucky.

A truck or shootout never would have worked, this was on par with 9/11 in terms of planning.

There should be a travel ban on white men who own guns.

Brown or black gunman, seal the borders, round them all up, concentration camps, collective guilt of everyone the same color and religion.

He's so adamant a believer in the Second Amendment and so opposed to any kind of gun control he decided to go on a mass shoot to send a message to Big Gummitt?

Why are these words incapable of being spoken together?

unbelievable....

The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack on Monday, reporting through its Amaq news agency that the shooter was one of its “soldiers” and had recently converted to Islam, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks extremist groups.

The group, also known as ISIS, often claims responsibility after attacks, even in cases where it is unclear whether they motivated them or were involved. The actions and statements of local and federal law enforcement officials on Monday suggested that the Las Vegas shooting was not believed to be connected to international terrorism, as ISIS claimed.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/02/police-shut-down-part-of-las-vegas-strip-due-to-shooting/?utm_term=.e9040dbdd370E

It's too soon to say if this will be the myth, but if it does become the official story there likely won't be much in the way of proof.

and the shooter's brother said he was not religious. Try again.

than random Internet posters and Russian trolls.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029661257

does not lead to the conclusion that he was an ISIS-affiliated or fanatical Christian terrorist; the opposite is far more likely. Those sorts of people almost always have some kind of record or trail on the Internet or a reputation among acquaintances, or something they've written or said. The lack of those things suggests the guy snapped for personal reasons, which we might never learn.