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brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:09 PM Oct 2017

Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Had Recent Large Gambling Transactions

Source: NBC News

The suspected gunman behind the Las Vegas massacre made several large gambling transactions in recent weeks, according to law enforcement officials.

The transactions in Las Vegas by Stephen Paddock were in the tens of thousands, the officials said.

It was not immediately clear if those transactions were losses or wins.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471

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Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Had Recent Large Gambling Transactions (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
I had a feeling Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #1
If it were wins he'd still be gambling BeyondGeography Oct 2017 #3
Girlfriend problems and gambling losses. For sure. SharonAnn Oct 2017 #35
Almost certainly. joshcryer Oct 2017 #37
i'd go with losses barbtries Oct 2017 #2
Doesn't explain, additionally, why the target was a concert across the street, not the Hotel itself. brooklynite Oct 2017 #5
i speculate barbtries Oct 2017 #12
Convience and probablity of mass casulties. joshcryer Oct 2017 #38
Atlanta 15 years ago, a guy killed 12 people in office buildings where he lost a bunch day-trading. Hoyt Oct 2017 #4
Come on, Hoyt. That last bit was stupid Codeine Oct 2017 #22
With one or two rifles, maybe. Sorry, but more than that and one is contributing Hoyt Oct 2017 #32
Possibly he was planning on dying... HopeAgain Oct 2017 #6
Do we know days room was booked for? Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #7
I heard on GMA he checked in on Thursday. OnlinePoker Oct 2017 #9
What's weird though renegade000 Oct 2017 #8
Could be he was heavily indebted on those assets. denverbill Oct 2017 #15
I hope he had enough assets to provide for his victims csziggy Oct 2017 #30
I wonder if he worked on that before he did this. Man_Bear_Pig Oct 2017 #36
It's time to start profiling wealthy people who own multiple homes and airplanes IronLionZion Oct 2017 #17
Well, sure if you profile like an Aldrich Ames... renegade000 Oct 2017 #34
The Soviets were paying Aldrich Ames and others like him IronLionZion Oct 2017 #39
"If he was getting all the money from another source" delisen Oct 2017 #31
Room booked with girlfriend's ID More_Cowbell Oct 2017 #10
Because people book online. LisaM Oct 2017 #11
Reports say that shes not even in the U.S. and that he used her id. yardwork Oct 2017 #28
With that level of gambling, he probably could have gotten free rooms all over Las Vegas Not Ruth Oct 2017 #13
Why bring 10 weapons to a hotel room Willing2Volunteer Oct 2017 #14
It might have postponed it for a little bit. Dave Starsky Oct 2017 #20
From what I just saw his brother say on MSNBC he won 250,000 at some point and redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author MountainFool Oct 2017 #19
You are right. Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #24
If he won $250,000 on one occasion, that means he lost more. yardwork Oct 2017 #29
yes, rational people go on killing sprees after a big win. Javaman Oct 2017 #18
one could certainly point out that this guy was hardly rational ;) unblock Oct 2017 #27
Next will be NCDem777 Oct 2017 #21
Freepers are already on that shit. Codeine Oct 2017 #23
I'll say it again without remorse NCDem777 Oct 2017 #25
Sadly, I'm not sure I can disagree. nt Codeine Oct 2017 #26
Alex Jones already on the deep state conspiracy. Bill O'loofah says "it's the price of freedom." sarcasmo Oct 2017 #33

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
37. Almost certainly.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:19 AM
Oct 2017

And he was versed in guns to the point where he could plan this in weeks (the relationship likely crumbled over months if not years).

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
2. i'd go with losses
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:13 PM
Oct 2017

but it happens every day and people don't decide they want to take out hundreds of people before they off themselves.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
38. Convience and probablity of mass casulties.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:21 AM
Oct 2017

The hotels in Vegas (source: have lived there) have police everywhere. He knew he couldn't just start shooting up a casino floor because he'd be downed in 30 seconds. This gave him 10 minutes of absolute depravity.

He thought it through, which is becoming clear, that's for sure.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Atlanta 15 years ago, a guy killed 12 people in office buildings where he lost a bunch day-trading.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:17 PM
Oct 2017

Gambling losses could trigger this nowadays. The responsible, law-abiding gun owner is really a myth.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Come on, Hoyt. That last bit was stupid
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:59 PM
Oct 2017

and unnecessary. A lot of people own guns, and very few use them irresponsibly.

There's a certain subset of gun owners who are pretty much making the long term survival of unregulated gun ownership as a concept completely untenable - and I'm fine with that - but your average person with a rifle isn't really the issue.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. With one or two rifles, maybe. Sorry, but more than that and one is contributing
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:46 PM
Oct 2017

to the problem, directly or indirectly. Add carrying on city streets, supporting white wing organizations like NRA, GOP, 3%ers, etc., and they are the issue.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
6. Possibly he was planning on dying...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:20 PM
Oct 2017

So gambling with tens of thousands isn't such a big deal if you aren't going to need the money.

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
9. I heard on GMA he checked in on Thursday.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

Workers had gone into the room over the past few days and saw nothing amiss, so he might have brought the weapons in during the day yesterday from the parking garage below the hotel.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
8. What's weird though
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:28 PM
Oct 2017

Is that he evidently had a lot of assets, multiple homes, airplanes... Is a loss of tens of thousands really that triggering in that context? I mean possibly, but what would be helpful to know is whether he was really a good gambler, or if he was getting all the money from another source.

I mean these days I'm getting a bit

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
15. Could be he was heavily indebted on those assets.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

Maybe to the point where he knew he was going bankrupt unless he could pull out a gambling miracle.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
30. I hope he had enough assets to provide for his victims
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:59 PM
Oct 2017

Every account he had should be frozen immediately. Everything he owned should go towards compensation. No amount will be enough but hopefully there will be something for the people he harmed and their families.

 

Man_Bear_Pig

(89 posts)
36. I wonder if he worked on that before he did this.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:12 AM
Oct 2017

He obviously knew what he was going to do. I wonder if he did any legal work to transfer stuff into other people's names before doing this. If so, could a judge declare it a false transfer, even if it was before the massacre?

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
17. It's time to start profiling wealthy people who own multiple homes and airplanes
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:51 PM
Oct 2017

just in case. We can't put a price on safety.

Also we must profile accountants and people who play $100 a hand poker

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-attack-stephen-paddock-trnd/index.html

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
34. Well, sure if you profile like an Aldrich Ames...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:41 AM
Oct 2017

He worked for Lockheed Martin as an accountant. That doesn't get you as rich as he got. He also played primarily slots and video poker, again that isn't the typical route for making lots of money, unless you know how to exploit the machines, which is certainly a possibility.

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
39. The Soviets were paying Aldrich Ames and others like him
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:12 AM
Oct 2017

so an increase in wealth without explanation is a red flag that someone doing clearance work is up to something.

My point was mainly a joke about punishing rich bastards like the dude in my signature pics

delisen

(6,044 posts)
31. "If he was getting all the money from another source"
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:34 PM
Oct 2017

Had not considered that but it seems like something that needs to be ruled out.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
10. Room booked with girlfriend's ID
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

Stories keep saying this. I wonder if they mean with her ID as well as his ID. Otherwise, I don't see how you can book a room with someone else's ID and, presumably, pay with a credit card in that other person's name.

14. Why bring 10 weapons to a hotel room
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:39 PM
Oct 2017

I would say that he has had recent losses in the tens of thousands and when he checked into the room on Thursday that it was all or nothing.He was trying to win his money back and lost everything.

He had this planned out and if he would have won,life would have went on as usual for him and everyone else.

He lost and he snapped in my opinion.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
16. From what I just saw his brother say on MSNBC he won 250,000 at some point and
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:44 PM
Oct 2017

owned rental property, this isn't about money I don't think.

Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #16)

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
24. You are right.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:10 PM
Oct 2017

You can't beat the casinos. That is why it's called gaming and not gambling in Nevada. It's the law. he must have made some money somewhere, but you aren't going to make a living off of a csino unless you have a way of cheating they haven't discovered yet.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
18. yes, rational people go on killing sprees after a big win.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:57 PM
Oct 2017

"It was not immediately clear if those transactions were losses or wins. "

unblock

(52,328 posts)
27. one could certainly point out that this guy was hardly rational ;)
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:31 PM
Oct 2017

but your point stands, it's far more likely that the large gambling was a final hail mary and that the attack was his twisted way of not facing his losses.


 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
21. Next will be
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:50 PM
Oct 2017

a bunch of subhumans proclaiming that the shooting is a government plot and will likely start tracking down and threatening survivors and proclaim that the victims never existed. They did it after Sandy Hook and Pulse. Hell, they're still doing it.
And all who call them out are accused of trying to enforce "political correctness"

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. Freepers are already on that shit.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:01 PM
Oct 2017

I've seen a few of them tentatively pushing the false flag line already. Hours ago, actually.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
25. I'll say it again without remorse
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

I hope these degenerates lose family members in future events like this. Younger the better.

Call it hateful all you want but the only way conspiracy-servatives learn is if it happens to THEM. Really gives them perspective when all their "enlightened" anti-government friends start calling them government patsies and start reading their every post-funeral facial tic for "proof" that they're in on some plot and that their family members didn't exist.

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