...Clinton blaming herself

....hacked/stolen election directly

....illegally influenced election through Russian purchase of ads on FB and Twitter etc

....collusion

....Bernie voters not coming to Hillary

etc etc

There is a root cause for Hillary's loss. The polls were clearly supportive.

The election was stolen. All of everything coming out of the woodwork with this or that explanation is NOT helpful and only allows the perps off the hook.

The hacking of our political system is simply too far for people's imaginations to reach, because the implications are too chilling...

except they are a reality. Nothing could be more chilling on a daily basis than "president trump"

Trump the Moron needed all of those things to happen, all at once, like a perfect storm.

If any one of those things didn't happen, Hilary wins.

Trump the Moron needed the Russian meddling, the facebook and twitter incompetence, Hilary running a poor campaign and the Comey letter in October all to create a perfect storm of eeking out a an Electoral College victory by losing by 3 million votes.

Yes, they can all be true.

all else was window dressing, excuses, arm chair quarterbacking.

Easily accept the hacked results. I know it swayed some people too, but I think making it appear that there were so many more of them w bots was part of the ruse.

Embolden the worst among us.

And I don't think they were, then that's all Trump needed to win. Switch the votes in your favor and you win. But I've seen zero evidence supporting the claim that someone manipulated the vote count. I think Dems need to focus on what they can do to win the next election, not conspiracy theories about why we lost the last.

So you joined DU 4 days ago, so you could disagree with almost everyone posting on this thread?

What point is there in running elections at all, if they can be hacked and overturned by those with the power to do so?

The votes were manipulated.

not the first time I've seen a new DU member jumped on in this way. Many good people believe that the vote was hacked.

It's clear they, GOP/Russia, were plowing through the registration data heading to the election. Tweaking data that fed the lists used at the polls would eliminate many and/or cause enough delays in precincts overloaded by GOP SoSs in Dem rich areas. That way HRC "lost" the Obama coalition/didn't resonate with POC/didn't turn out the working class.

Given the final margins, it's likely the deciding factors were all due to illegal acts that are just now being brought to light. Will our packed courts do anything to redress this or provide the tools to stop it in 2018/2020?

done if we ever want to win again.

Honestly, I find it suspicious that someone who just registered is telling us to forger what happened before...

I would only add the fact that voter suppression laws also contributed to her loss, since they kept many, many blacks, Hispanics, and poor whites from being able to vote for her

..For example, Crooked Hillary that was really indicating how crooked he was/is. Also that Hillary was "in bed" with Wall Street - how many Goldman Sachs folks are in the Trump administration. Etc.

I make this point because he was always talking about the election is rigged and trying to indicate that the Dems were doing that. Now we know when he was talking about a rigged election, he was talking about his/his campaign's collusion with Russia.

Was easily the most blatant example of "projection" in modern politics. He was so obviously guilty of everything of which he accused Hillary. Once he was inaugurated, even more came to light.

The anger is simmering and people who believe that the election was stolen and that, by and large, the repugs are TRAITORS, won't stop being angry, won't stop resisting.

Ms. Clinton doesn't need to have such big shoulders. She was cheated. Our country was cheated. Dotard has a hollow, meaningless victory. That eats at his inadequate guts.

No process to allow for holding a new election when such a situation happens. I have little hope that anything will be done. After Gore "lost" the 2000 election, with less of a popular vote majority than Hillary, but even more blatant later cheating on recounts, etc., the Dems lay down for it. By 2016 the stage was set for even more outrageous "stealing" of the election. Had the Bush Vs Gore decision gone the other way, the Republicans would have made sure the Electoral College was GONE by 2016. Clinton won by nearly 3,000,000 more popular votes despite all those obstacle thrown in her path. The right wing tries to convince us that the votes in flyover country deserve to count more than the votes of those "crazy liberals" who live on the coasts. Majority rule is SO unfair to the deplorables and other voters-against-own-best-interests.

They are destroying unions created by workers, and they are destroying the Union made by our forefathers.
repugs have zero regard for the Constitution and are intent on its total erasure.

We the people are awake and smell the coffee, but we need to GOTV in overwhelming numbers on paper ballots and disconnect the Internet from the earliest of early voting, until after the votes are counted and certified.

Everything seemed to align into a perfect storm. Trump himself was the most surprised by the results.

Russian interference, voter suppression, and other theft were definitely on their radar.

It's rare for any party, particularly Democrats, to win a third Presidential term.

other facors at play.

2000, 2004, 2016... 3 of the last 5, and we just take it on the chin over and over and over again
what are we doing about these chronic thefts?
what even can be done about it?
do we have the means to address the issue and the will to exercise them?
if this continues, American democracy is dead on the vine. hell, it already might be.

either way, at some point, We The People have to take primary responsibility for ensuring our elections are not stolen or stop declaring loudly that the results are illegitimate.

I've heard about attempts that were discovered, but those all suggested they did not have much success and they were often indirect attacks on official's computers. Which is obviously bad and could lead to nefarious folks gaining information and access that would increase the likelihood of hiding/assisting in more direct attacks on the voting machines. I just haven't seen anyone release any information about successful attacks. Where did you hear about this? If you have any links or anything, I would like to read up on it.

Either way, it really can be all of the above that contributed to it. The influence campaign and the email hacking by Russia fall squarely in line with any successful or unsuccessful hacking of the voting systems. Collusion between Russia and Trump, or at least people from the Trump campaign, seem to at least be something that took place on some level. Who and how much collusion is still to be determined.

I also understand why Clinton would put some of the blame on herself. It seems reasonable that she feels like she was over confident and underestimated effectiveness of the campaigns not just for Trump, but mostly against her. We lost the propaganda war. When I say we, I mean the entire US. That includes the republicans who think they won, but who are nothing more than useful idiots.

I don't see any reason why it needs to be a simple black and white answer as to what caused Trump to be declared the winner of the election. Lots of things working together and against each other all drove us to this current situation.

Sure, maybe Clinton should have done some things differently but at the time people didn't think Trump would win given how he was considered "beyond the pale" by many people. I honestly didn't expect Trump to do as well among white women as he did, for example.

It’s been reported I can multiple places that on Election Day, he was asking advisors how to write a concession speech, how embarrassing it was going to be to have to give it, and how he didn’t expect to win. He couldn’t believe it when the returns started coming in that night.

I don't even think he expected to win the primary. But white wingers jumped to support him when he started his racist rants against Mexicans.

His presidential campaign had other, less onerous but more lucrative goals in mind.

Lot of really sick, stupid dumbasses in America.

62,984,825 to be exact!

https://transition.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2016/2016presgeresults.pdf

It's not HRC's fault that so many people thought a guy who ran a half dozen businesses into the ground was going to come along and fix everything, including the stuff that wasn't broken. Yet.

I am of her generation. I know how politics works. when you are in the political, hot spotlight for over 30 years and your detractors and opponents can point to a handful of mistakes and exploit them, you can become vulnerable.

A piece of shit like Trump the Moron can take no position, or multiple positions, on every major issue, and claim he was right each time.

Having no governmental responsibilities, he has no record to attack.

no, the Moron-in-chief has been in office for 9 months and is compiling a record. how's he doing?

I think Trump's election says more about us, as a nation, than it does about Hilary.

He's good at being ambiguous and jacking around people's emotions. He's got no background so people can, for a while, say "give him a chance!"

So far he's the shittiest president we've ever had and it won't get any better as he shows who he is. Only the cultists won't be able to see that, and those who want to keep power as long as possible will back anything that lets them.

It's up to all the rest of us to be sane and loud and to take the reins.

I understand the feeling but at the same time you still need to govern and get stuff done and that means you need to know how to play the political game. Too many Americans have an unrealistic view of politics now so that the people who know how to operate the system are seen as corrupt hacks instead of experienced experts. Politicians like Harry Truman and LBJ could not get elected to the presidency today because they would be attacked for being hacks.

Jonathan Rauch has written about this issue a lot.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/how-american-politics-went-insane/485570/

Populists are why we cannot have nice things, like a government that functions.

They did it in 2016 and they will do it again in 2018 and 2020, unless something is done to stop them first.

They also did it in 2000 (Bush v Gore), and 2004, when Kerry had a good chance of defeating Bush 43, until those slanderous "Swift Boat" TV ads came out in the final weeks of the campaign.
(They probably also did it in the mid-term elections of 2010)

Democrats always have been and always will. Repigs can't govern for shit they just steal elections and more brazen.

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...remaining in the US Constitution as part of the (awful) compromise to get it approved, she was elected by the majority of Americans.

However with racist idiots concentrated in a few states, the Electoral College defeated the will of Americans, and put in the White House a clear Alzheimer's victim who started his life and lived his life with basic personality disorders.

Some Alzheimer's victims are sweet - my Uncle and Father in law are examples - and some are vicious. The orange intellectually disabled moron in the White House is clearly the vicious type.

The American Constitution was a brilliant document that survived for more than two centuries. It has, however, proved its inadequacy in these times merely by the installation of a bad excuse for a human being, and his criminal family, at the highest level of Government. Unfortunately, there are no people as brilliant as Franklin, Madison et al who could write a decent constitution that is suited for these times. We are now a nation of complete idiots driven here and there on soundbites and twitter trash.

That we could not seat a fine, intelligent, and caring woman in the White House, is a reflection of the deep danger in these times; I wish I could see a way out, but I certainly can't think of one.

I don't think it's Hillary's fault. I think the fault lies with all of us.

I don't think I was a big enough - or articulate enough - advocate for her. I backed down too much with the Bernie faction, including some in my own family. I couldn't keep emotions out of it.

The fact of how much I failed her haunts me. I should have been braver, calmer, better prepared to take people on, you name it.

I don't think it's just me - I think a lot of us were put in a defensive position, and a lot of us hid our views. We were talking at my all- women book club a few days ago about the time in about March 2016 when it transpired that all of us were supporting Hillary - and all of us were afraid to even say it in our own close-knit book club, because we were afraid of being harassed. In my case, it goes back to 2008 when I just put my Hillary button in my coat pocket and held on to it like a talisman because I was too chicken-hearted to stand up for her.

I FAILED HER.

Obama had some inkling, but I think he underestimate the danger as well. And he is one of the greatest political strategists in American history. He beat the GOP at their own game.

the behind the scenes damage which would affect the GE outcome. HRC was poised to win the presidency. Our rw neighbors relented that she would win; that's how it looked to them! Clean up to the '11th hour'.

I shudder now realizing the 'components' that brought about the disaster that occupies The Peoples' House.

Mainly 'Aiding and Abetting' by rus foreign state and then the Comey double bomb.

We gotta get outta this.

I do have hope left.

It blind sided most of us. Putin installing Trump as president was not on our radar screen.
And the FBI publicly damaging Clinton was also a shocker.

I guess we were all naive.

what was to actually befall us.

I guess that could be naivete.
Flip side of flaming ignorance or stupidity as...

I'll just leave it there...🤐

And overestimated the security of our voting system.

While the GOP is capable of almost anything, most never thought they would sell out to the Russians.
And not even blink.

& apathy by the voters. We didn't know Wikileaks had coordinated with the Trump camp until the timely leaks came just like various Repubs promised.
Who would have known that the Hollywood Access Tapes (which should have been referred to by dems as the Sexual Assault Tapes...Repubs are so much better at labeling, marketing, monikers ) would be a story knocked off by more of the same fucking emails.

Then, there was the Most Honorable Comey.

I understand Putin, the richest man in the world, and a ruthless dictator, attempting to order the world to his advantage. But the FBI in direct violation of the Hatch Act trying to sway the election was unbelievable.

From US officials and elected leaders.

Putin must have thought installing his puppet as president was like taking candy from a baby.

Go Corker!!

So fuck 'em.

Link to tweet

I'm already a follower of "Impeach Donald Trump" on Twitter.
(I wish more Dems would become followers, even if it necessitates opening a Twitter account)

i feel very concerned about ALL future elections. can't say id ever fully trust then UNLESS VERIFIED (paper ballots)

Oregon does elections the best way - all paper ballots!

Sure, we need to take lessons from the last election (I'm not sure how you counter a massive foreign power assisting your opponent though). But in general I think it's time to quit rehashing the past and start planning for the next elections. We need to be getting top not candidates in position to win.

what was done last year, will continue to be done in future elections. Voter suppression, Weaponization of data and propaganda etc will continue to be a factor in elections. 2016 was perhaps the most consequential election I could think of in recent memory. We've already seen how the same attacks used against HRC could be transferred to other democrats like Kamala Harris and others. The discussion is not about wanting to go back in time, it's about learning from the past and wrestling with the consequences.

The "Red Shift" and inaccuracy of exit polls started at the same time. Electronic voting machines have been proven to be easily hacked. Black Box voting is a level headed reference for that point. Weird stuff has happened in Ohio, notably Kerry v Bush. The Russians simply started painting on a Republican created pallet. 75,000 voters in Detroit voted, but didn't cast a vote for President? The Trump campaign worked successfully to stop the Michigan recount before these votes were looked at.

We need to use all paper ballots for elections in the United States. The worlds greatest Democracy doesn't demand an election system that can be accurately audited at any point in the tabulation process.

First off, I shouldn't have to prefice this but of course I must in here...
that OF COURSE there were multiple other factors that led to her loss. The Russians and their Facebook and other social media blitz, voter suppression, monopolized RW fake news radio, Fox fucking news, and most likely even voter machine hacking.

That said, she must, and should have earlier, admitted she failed at finding a way to combat the populism Trump garnered. To cut through his lies. To make it clear to working Americans that she had a vision for them as well. She needed a bolder platform to compete with Trump's (for whom it was so easy to be bold because he had no qualms about lying and exaggerating) , or even to compete with Sanders. In the end she adopted some of Sanders platform but too little too late. She also simply was not as charismatic. That is not her fault, that is just her personality, but on camera she didn't look comfortable at times, and every sentence, every word seemed planned and rehearsed. Which was even more obvious when compared to her competitor. She was more of a policy hack, she is incredibly smart, and I have no doubt she and the Dems would have been able to recraft the ACA into a better model, and many other great things, but she is no salesperson, like Trump is. One example is she did not understand that saying things like "its never going to happen" about single payer does not garner votes with anyone, from any side, and alienates many Democrats. Even if, deep down, she thought this was the case.

Anyways, I personally have even more respect for Hillary now. And I appreciate her honesty.

In her book she goes OUT OF HER WAY to accept blame where I felt it wasn't even necessary.

I'm really sick and tired of this BS meme of her lack of accountability.

I, too, appreciate Hillary's honesty.

I agree with all that you said, but you didn't mention what was probably the BIGGEST reason she lost, namely, FBI Director James Comey's letter to Congressional leaders about finding more Clinton emails (a lie) only 10 days before the election.
At that point, Hillary was between 11 - 13 points ahead of Trump, shortly after the audio tape came out ("I grab 'em by the pussy&quot
But as soon as Comey's letter was released, Hillary lost most of that lead, and went into the election only 3-4 points ahead.
It's my contention that the "Republicans can only steal elections that are close" .and this was proved by Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012.

I didn't mention that, and it truly was a death by a thousand knives. It was a war waged by Trumps team plus a corrupt GOP and Putin's cyber army, and probably Comey was in it all along as well. But I was always leery about just how much that affected the horse race. I always felt that the email 'scandal' couldn't be regarded any more wrongly than it already had been, no matter what "new" developments were talked about. Not to mention that a lot of RW rage at Democrats behaviour is, or must be, phony. Considering how little and sparse they have to work with. That's why they inflate whatever moles they find into mountains. (ie. a blowjob between consenting adults) They grab at whatever straw they can. They throw mud at the wall constantly hoping something will stick because frankly there just isn't a lot of real dirt to pin on Democrats, historically speaking. My point is that die hard Republican voters just want to have their ducks in a row, know who is bad and who is good. They screamed "lock her up!", but if pinned down to explain what exactly she had done to deserve it, I'd guess most would just glare back in a glazed over stupor. So for them, it didn't change anything. She was just even MORE guilty of something they didn't even understand or care about other than it was something they could rally around with Hannity.

And most that were planning to vote for her before Comey's action, had already been saturated so much with stories about her "damn emails" and had been riding a roller coaster for years already about false starts on this, where there were hints of some bigger charges coming, only to be followed by retractions. It was so obvious that this was just another hollow straw, like Benghazi, that the GOP was using to build some kind of nefarious profile of her.

So while I think it had some effect, I also think it was not as big a factor in and of itself. Bernie made it clear that it was a non-issue for his campaign. And as a Bernie supporter I certainly did not put her using a private email account, probably as a way to talk to family and friends, was a big deal. In fact I sympathized with her having that private account for such a harangued public figure such as she. I and others that preferred Sanders, did so for other more significant reasons than that. So any 'new development' of a non issue = nothing for those on the left.

So that leaves a demographic that were going to vote for her just before Comey's action, DESPITE years of hearing about her misuse of a private email server and still sticking with her up until then, were somehow convinced she was not desirable as President material to them because of that one more "new development" of not even proven misdeeds, but only an announcement of some new inquiry into other emails they had overlooked involving a third party. That these folks would, upon hearing this, would throw their hands up and say "That's it!...now I'm switching my vote!" I contend that this was a small percent.

But it was not insignificant. Like is said, a death by a thousand cuts. And yes, it surely did contribute.

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and, you're right about the email issue being a "non-issue" for his campaign.
But that has nothing to do with the fact that at the point where Comey sent his letter about finding new HRC emails, only 10 days before the election, lost Hillary at least 10 points in the polls.
Because of Comey, instead of going into the election 11-13 points ahead, which was a larger lead than she'd had over the previous month or so, she went into the election with a measly 3 point lead.
I is my contention that the Republicans can only steal elections that are close.
(Obama proved this in both 2008 and 2012)

You have to remember that Hillary didn't have a "united" Democratic Party behind her, and, imo, that was her own fault.
The first big decision that any nominee has to make is to choose their running mate.
She could have chosen either Bernie or Elizabeth Warren, and that would have gone a long way towards uniting the then-divided Democratic Party.

Finally, regarding your "That's it...now I'm switching my vote" (after Comey's letter), Hillary Clinton would have picked up many "undecided" voters in those last few days of the campaign, namely, those who would have voted for her as "the lesser of two evils", especially after that "I grab 'em by the pussy" tape came out.
Even arch-conservative P.J. O'Rourke had decided to vote for her, as "the lesser of 2 evils".
But after Comey's letter, Hillary lost many of those type of voters, and many of them probably ended up voting for Jill Stein.
But many of them who were Democrats that supported Bernie Sanders might have thought that "this is the last straw" and many probably just stayed home & didn't even vote.

"I contend that this was a small percent"?
I disagree.
Facts are facts, and you can easily check the poll numbers before and after Comey's letter.
10 percent is not "a small percent"

And you may just be right. I just find it difficult to believe, for reasons I stated, that that big shift in the polls was due entirely, or even mostly, to that Comey action. That I contend the vast vast majority of voters had already made up their minds on the email 'scandal'.

So where did that shift come from? Well, we know that Russian and probably GOP sponsored fake news ads about Hillary were rampant during that last week all over FB and social media, especially targeting swing States. The MSM continued to give Trump twice as much airtime to pound Hillary. And the monopolized daytime RW hate radio was in full screech mode. The MSM sudden awareness of the monster they had created and that he may just awake, and their obvious 180 of actually doing their jobs instead of pushing for a horserace for two years, went over like a wet blanket, as it only backfired and used against them as being disingenuous (which frankly they had been).

I admit there must have been at least some swing in the polls strictly because of that Comey action, and that that may have been enough to just barely tilt it in Trumps favour. I have no argument there. I just find it difficult to believe there was a 10% loss because of that alone. That other shenagins were more responsible. Just my opinion. Could be wrong like I say.
Cheers.

Because I can't think of any.

I also can't remember demands for an apology from any other candidate, only for Hillary/ Why is that?

word seemed planned and rehearsed."

I never saw that at all. Every word came from her heart. She didn't keep repeating the same speech over and over again. Now that would have sounded planned and rehearsed.

Truth is that she was the most honest and sincere candidate in '16. The fact that she received more than three million votes than her opponent is a testament that she did indeed reached voters at a personal level

when you left the outskirts of the cities, the support for trump was huge, In order to win the electoral college, he needed to win the electors that totaled over 270, the pollsters, and pundits did not pay attention to the areas outside of the cities. If you lok at red vs blue counties, you see how he one.

She would have been a damn good president.

That doesn't get it in todays America.

One of your biggest truths: The Basket of Deplorables.
Who would have dreamed (nightmares) that that basket would be so big in this country.

Don't run the candidate that had been vilified in the press far beyond any reason for 30 years.

Don't let Russia have free run of our electoral system.

Don't let squishy, less than ethical Republican holdovers continue to run government departments under Democratic administrations

Run your parties internal politics in a way that does not lend itself to internal division nor appearance of favoritism.



Fix those you have a solid shot at overcoming our countries long history of misogyny, and our twitchy faux libertarianism, and the electoral malfeasance that the republicans continually try to corrupt the voting system with.

Democrats elected her. Who is the person who should have told them not to? The problem is not the person being vilified, it's the forces who vilify her.

Russia ran a propaganda campaign involving hacking and weaponizing data via its allies ( like Wikileaks). The larger point is that America needs to be more serious about cybersecurity.

Complaints about party primary politics are nothing new.

And your last point I do agree with, countering conservative libertarian ideology and the other ISMS of society is forever an uphill battle.

What should be does not match what is. The USA should not be prejudiced against women. Russia should not be interfering in our elections. There should not have been a decades long campaign of lies against Hillary Clinton as an individual. Vote suppression should not be happening in this country.

But excepting (sorta) the the Russia thing.. we ALL knew that these were among the roadblocks we would be facing going into this with this particular candidate at the helm.

The problem is neither of the things you presented. The problem is President Trump and Republicans in the house, senate, and various state level positions.

What should be often means very little in the face of what is. You have to have power in order to change what is into what should be. We as a group chose to pretend otherwise. Its already cost this nation, the world, and many of us as individuals a lot. Unfortunately I see no signs that we are anywhere near done paying the full price yet.

I don't think that would have been a smart move.

We ran the candidate they most wanted to face, the one they have been laying groundwork against and preparing for for over 20 years.

We have overwhelming evidence.

If I knew this ends with the guilty getting prosecuted and our democracy getting righted, then I would be glad the curtain was finally pulled back to show all the ways the republicans have been stealing elections for 2 decades (at least).

I heard once that the US wouldn't accept the results of a foreign election if the exit polls weren't very close to the results. The US has been accepting a rightward shift in exit polls for some time. They believe the tally and dismiss the exit polls.

I remember fearing that the election would be stolen from Obama in 2008 (after watching 2000 and 2004). When he won, I hoped he would take on election integrity (getting rid of machines to start), but nothing. Crickets. Total trust in the electoral system.

This was missed by the entire democratic leadership and thus, we are here. There is no way this falls on the shoulders of Hillary. I'm sad she carries this burden.

I, too, hoped Obama would "take on election integrity" ..by getting rid of the electronic voting machines, (or at least trying to) during the 3-4 months the Dems controlled both houses of Congress.

"This was missed by the entire Democratic leadership" .....Absolutely!

I think Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) is right....We need new Democratic leadership.

But blame mostly elsewhere

"However, Clinton maintains there were factors other than her own campaign that influenced the outcome of the presidential election, as detailed in her recently released memoir analyzing her defeat."

This thread has more excellent replies than any thread I've seen for a long time.
However, there is one thing that no one has mentioned yet.
After the primaries were over, and Hillary had won the nomination, the Democratic Party was a divided party.
She could have "united" the party by choosing either Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren as her running mate.
The millions of millennials and others who voted for Bernie Sanders would have voted for Hillary in November if she had chosen either Sanders or Warren as her running mate.
But, instead of uniting the extremely divided Democratic Party, who did she choose?
A Conserva-Dem from Virginia, that's who.

Yes, there was Russian hacking of the election.
Yes, there was GOP voting machine tampering.
Yes, there were GOP voter suppression laws, (as well as GOP programs like "Crosscheck".which threw millions of Democrats off the voter rolls)
Yes, there was Comey's "more Clionton emails found" letter only 10 days before the election.

But, in my opinion, if Hillary had brought together all those millions of Democrats who voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries by picking him (or Sen. Warren) as her running mate, we wouldn't be having this discussion now.
Instead, we would have a Democrat in the White House, and probably a Democratic-controlled Senate as well.

put forth in this election, but Mr Putin was closely monitoring the psyche of the American people and put his boy(who was coached and possibly now being blackmailed) out there and stole the election, I truly believe that.

Also that prick Putin (small man syndrome) harbored a loathing of Hillary since she was SOS, she didn't play and was serious, he couldn't stand that a woman was a way ahead of him. What a wuss!!

I will go to my grave condemning James Comey!

and Bill for decades.

it wouldn't have been close.

I'll take my leave. I still firmly believe that Bernie Sanders could have won if it was not for DNC and Third Way's meddling of the primaries.

Good luck. At least Clinton admitted it was her fault that she screwed up the 2016 elections.

We have a winner.

We all know that Hillary would have won - and in fact she did win - except for the cheating, treasonous GOP and their collusion with a foreign power.

It pains me to see Hillary accepting "blame" when in fact she doesn't deserve it.

Bunch of traitor bastards!

The key to winning is to look outside the cities, and work to convert voters there, in order to win electors. You could get ahuge amount of popular votes in the cities, but it means nothing if you can't reach over 270 electoral votes.

share primary blame. Also the aprox. 60 million idiots that wanted a racist, narcisistic, abusive, overtly corrupt billionaire television host as president.

i can only imagine. for every night of lost sleep i've had, she must have 3 where she can only toss and turn.

every disgusting tweet, every outrageous abdication of responsibility, every overt act of racism and sexism, they all probably dig into her far more deeply than they do me. she was so close to becoming an extremely well-prepared competent president and saving us from ruin; i can only imagine how much every day of this nasty ignorant destructive regime hurts her.