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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:26 AM Oct 2017

Trump proposes IQ tests face-off with Tillerson after secretary of state calls him a moron

Source: The Washington Post

President Trump proposed an “IQ tests” face-off with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson after the nation's top diplomat reportedly called the president a “moron” and disparaged his grasp on foreign policy.

In an interview with Forbes magazine published Tuesday, Trump fired a shot at Tillerson over the “moron” revelation, first reported by NBC News and confirmed by several other news organizations, including The Washington Post.

“I think it's fake news,” Trump said, “but if he did that, I guess we'll have to compare IQ tests. And I can tell you who is going to win.”

Trump's dare is the latest evidence of what White House officials have described as a breach of trust between the president and secretary of state.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/10/trump-proposes-iq-tests-face-off-with-tillerson-after-secretary-of-state-calls-him-a-moron/



The dare is also the latest evidence Trump's a moron.
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Trump proposes IQ tests face-off with Tillerson after secretary of state calls him a moron (Original Post) Julian Englis Oct 2017 OP
is this trumps chicken ass equivalent of a back alley fight? samnsara Oct 2017 #1
45* just doesn't know how to act like an adult... everything has to center around him groundloop Oct 2017 #2
Double the 45 Mira Oct 2017 #3
Results are with his taxes Marthe48 Oct 2017 #22
There's a relcurring online ad bobbieinok Oct 2017 #29
Trump has repeatedly boasted about his IQ mainer Oct 2017 #4
i think that was the onion barbtries Oct 2017 #6
His IQ wasn't over 200--that was his combbined SAT scores. Julian Englis Oct 2017 #7
Trump also said he finished @ the top of his class @ Wharton too. Botany Oct 2017 #13
I thought that Trump went to Wharton for undergrad, not for an MBA. Also, I believe he transfered StevieM Oct 2017 #35
I try to post this whenever the issue of Trump's alleged IQ comes up: Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #36
What happened?... Zoonart Oct 2017 #5
I thought this was a article from "The Onion" Demonaut Oct 2017 #8
Trump is an idiot Gothmog Oct 2017 #9
Reminder: Dr. Dunning himself said Trump exemplifies the Dunning-Kruger effect muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #10
Oh how I yearn for days when dueling was how this would be settled randr Oct 2017 #11
Bookies should have fun with this one bucolic_frolic Oct 2017 #12
This from a "president"? I don't agree with him ideology, but Tillerson is 10,000 the person... George II Oct 2017 #14
Wow. I'd pay for ringside. truthisfreedom Oct 2017 #15
IQ Maxheader Oct 2017 #16
so childishly petulent vlyons Oct 2017 #17
Whatever trump says, he will claim as the truth to any questions. riversedge Oct 2017 #18
I'm so tired of being humiliated by this moronic president. Paladin Oct 2017 #19
you see, tRump would win... Javaman Oct 2017 #20
"President Trump proposed an IQ tests face-off with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson ... DK504 Oct 2017 #21
Blonde jokes anyone? Marthe48 Oct 2017 #23
New reality T-V show, Moron IQ Challenge, where the smartest moron wins nothing at all. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #24
On the Good Morning America panel Wednesdays Oct 2017 #25
Not the Onion? wryter2000 Oct 2017 #26
What will drumpf do when he scores a 45. democratisphere Oct 2017 #27
He makes W look like a thoughtful statesman. NT Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #28
Would love to see the results of a Trump Cognitive Assessment test Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #30
Tillerson ought to take him up on it, with the condition that they also mnhtnbb Oct 2017 #31
Sure, Jan. DRoseDARs Oct 2017 #32
Go for it Rex!!! n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #33
It takes a great deal of insecurity to obsess over one's IQ rating, Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #34

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
2. 45* just doesn't know how to act like an adult... everything has to center around him
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:31 AM
Oct 2017

But damn, I'd love to see the results of that IQ test on 45*.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
3. Double the 45
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:34 AM
Oct 2017

and it would be his lucky day. This is such Kindergarten bullshit, just like you said.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
29. There's a relcurring online ad
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:59 AM
Oct 2017

That claims it will show T's IQ score and those of other presidents and that T' s 'will amaze you.'

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
6. i think that was the onion
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:38 AM
Oct 2017

or some other parody account on twitter. i totally believed it until i found that out...truthfully i doubt he could bust 100 on an IQ test.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
13. Trump also said he finished @ the top of his class @ Wharton too.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:03 AM
Oct 2017

But truth be told that was another lie too.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
35. I thought that Trump went to Wharton for undergrad, not for an MBA. Also, I believe he transfered
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 12:30 PM
Oct 2017

in after two years. Originally, he attended Fordham in NYC.

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
36. I try to post this whenever the issue of Trump's alleged IQ comes up:
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 12:35 PM
Oct 2017
Intelligence Commotion

A chart purportedly showing that Donald Trump has an IQ of 156 is based on incomplete and outright inaccurate information.

Origin: A chart purportedly ranking the intelligence quotients of former presidents of the United States made the rounds on social media in December 2016, along with the claim that the President-elect would rank among the smartest, boasting an IQ of 156:



...

This chart is based on a real study; however, the claim that Donald Trump has an IQ of 156 is not.

...

This article is chock-full of logical missteps and factual inaccuracies. Trump's official school transcripts are not available, so it is impossible to know his actual scholastic aptitude scores. While the article's author used Wharton's general admission requirements to estimate Trump's IQ, the math still doesn't quite add up.

According to PrepScholar.com, Wharton's SAT requirements are currently set at 1500. This roughly translates to an IQ score between A145 and 149, not 156. Regardless, Wharton's admission requirements are irrelevant, since Trump did not enter Wharton as a freshman. He transferred there his junior year, and Wharton does not list SAT scores among its requirements for transfer students.

Gwenda Blair claimed in her 2001 biography about Donald Trump and his family that the President-elect was admitted to Wharton thanks to a friendly admissions officer ...

http://www.snopes.com/donald-trumps-intelligence-quotient/

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
10. Reminder: Dr. Dunning himself said Trump exemplifies the Dunning-Kruger effect
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:49 AM
Oct 2017
Again, the key to the Dunning-Kruger Effect is not that unknowledgeable voters are uninformed; it is that they are often misinformed—their heads filled with false data, facts and theories that can lead to misguided conclusions held with tenacious confidence and extreme partisanship, perhaps some that make them nod in agreement with Trump at his rallies.

Trump himself also exemplifies this exact pattern, showing how the Dunning-Kruger Effect can lead to what seems an indomitable sense of certainty. All it takes is not knowing the point at which the proper application of a sensible idea turns into malpractice.

For example, in a CNBC interview, Trump suggested that the U.S. government debt could easily be reduced by asking federal bondholders to “take a haircut,” agreeing to receive a little less than the bond’s full face value if the U.S. economy ran into trouble. In a sense, this is a sensible idea commonly applied—at least in business, where companies commonly renegotiate the terms of their debt.

But stretching it to governmental finance strains reason beyond acceptability. And in his suggestion, Trump illustrated not knowing the horror show of consequences his seemingly modest proposal would produce. For the U.S. government, his suggestion would produce no less than an unprecedented earthquake in world finance. It would represent the de facto default of the U.S. on its debt—and the U.S. government has paid its debt in full since the time of Alexander Hamilton. The certainty and safety imbued in U.S. Treasury bonds is the bedrock upon which much of world finance rests.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904

Trump is too stupid to know that he's stupid.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. This from a "president"? I don't agree with him ideology, but Tillerson is 10,000 the person...
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:04 AM
Oct 2017

...the pretender is.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
16. IQ
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:14 AM
Oct 2017

Of course tRUMP gets to pick the metrics...the understanding
of riggin an election and getting millions of people to buy
into his pitch. Took years of polishing his act on tv.

Paladin

(28,262 posts)
19. I'm so tired of being humiliated by this moronic president.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:29 AM
Oct 2017

My foreign-based friends feel sorry for me and my entire country. I'm sick to death of it.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
20. you see, tRump would win...
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:30 AM
Oct 2017

because anytime he enters a room, he sucks all the intelligence out of it.

LOL

DK504

(3,847 posts)
21. "President Trump proposed an IQ tests face-off with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson ...
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017

... after the nation's top diplomat reportedly called the president a “moron” and disparaged his grasp on foreign policy."

All I hear with that is Fredo screaming in the Godfather, "I'm smawrt, I'm smawrt".

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
24. New reality T-V show, Moron IQ Challenge, where the smartest moron wins nothing at all.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:44 AM
Oct 2017

A battle of little minds for the vainglorious distinction of being brighter than some other moron.
There are no winners on this reality show, but the loser gets replaced by the next moron.
Who wants to bet on the guy in an Armani suit and cheap baseball cap? Or Vlad's business partner?




Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
25. On the Good Morning America panel
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:11 AM
Oct 2017

I think it was Robin Roberts who said, "And it's only Tuesday." To which Michael Strahan (somewhat exasperated) replied, "We've got a long week to go."

mnhtnbb

(31,390 posts)
31. Tillerson ought to take him up on it, with the condition that they also
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 11:21 AM
Oct 2017

both submit to evaluation by an independent panel of psychiatrists and psychologists designed to assess
the fitness of each of them for their respective offices.

Then, of course, the problem becomes selecting the panel. Start with the Yale psychiatrist who has
edited the book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, Bandy Lee, M.D., M.Div.

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
34. It takes a great deal of insecurity to obsess over one's IQ rating,
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 12:29 PM
Oct 2017

let alone try to turn it into a competition.

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