Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 01:48 PM Oct 2017

Catalan government proposes suspending effect of independence declaration

Source: The Guardian

Catalan president Carles Puigdemont has proposed further dialogue in order to work toward independence.

He says:

I want to follow people’s will for Catalonia to become an independent state.

The parliament erupts with applause. But he says the government wants to delay any formal declaration. He continues:

We propose to suspend the effect of the independence declaration... in order to work towards putting into practice the result of the referendum... Today, we are making a gesture of responsibility in favour of dialogue.



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/oct/10/catalan-parliament-discusses-independence-referendum-live

7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Catalan government proposes suspending effect of independence declaration (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
Why? Momentum matters. Not Ruth Oct 2017 #1
Yes, and so does carrying that momentum off of a cliff jberryhill Oct 2017 #2
The threats of jailing (if not worse) Catalonia's leaders and suspending autonomy altogether Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #4
Because Businesses and Banks are leaving itcfish Oct 2017 #6
perhaps they could practice by putting up border crossings at every point of entry into msongs Oct 2017 #3
Right, nothing to it. elleng Oct 2017 #5
None of that would be necessary if they gained accession to the EU. Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #7

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
4. The threats of jailing (if not worse) Catalonia's leaders and suspending autonomy altogether
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 02:08 PM
Oct 2017

are probably among the reasons!

The Spanish government's refused dialogue and degraded the region's constitutional autonomy since 2011. That's a major reason why this is all happening at the moment.

itcfish

(1,828 posts)
6. Because Businesses and Banks are leaving
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 02:37 PM
Oct 2017

Catalonia. The citizens would lose their pensions and healthcare. Mostly because on Sunday over 1 million people protested against independence.

msongs

(67,413 posts)
3. perhaps they could practice by putting up border crossings at every point of entry into
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 02:05 PM
Oct 2017

their new country. gated crossings with customs and citizen checkpoints at every sidewalk, street, rail line, and airport.

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
7. None of that would be necessary if they gained accession to the EU.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

That's a BIG "if", obviously, though as already part of a EU state, it could probably meet the criteria for entry quite easily IF the political will was there (there's parallel with documented positive statements from EU officials in the last couple of years about the prospects of a future independent Scotland joining the EU in its own right).

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Catalan government propos...