NFL head Goodell: 'Everyone should stand for the national anthem'
Source: The Hill
BY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 10/10/17 02:30 PM EDT
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday that he believes everyone should stand for the National Anthem.
Goodell said the controversy over NFL players kneeling in protest during the anthem is threatening to erode the unifying power of our game, and is now dividing us, and our players, from many fans across the country.
Like many of our fans we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem. It is an important moment in our game. We want to honor our flag and our country, and our fans expect that of us," Goodell added in his statement.
Link to tweet
We also care deeply about our players and respect their opinions and concerns about critical social issues. The controversy over the anthem is a barrier to having honest conversations and making real progress on the underlying issues. We need to move past this controversy, and we want to do that together with our players." The commissioner said that the NFL has worked to develop a plan that we will review with you at next weeks League meeting.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354745-goodell-everyone-should-stand-for-the-national-anthem
White House backs NFL rule change requiring players to stand for anthem
BY JORDAN FABIAN - 10/10/17 02:42 PM EDT
The White House on Tuesday encouraged the National Football League to change its rules to make it mandatory for players to stand for the national anthem.
I think we would certainly support the NFL coming out and asking players to stand, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters.
Our position hasnt changed on that front, Sanders said. Were glad to see the NFL taking positive steps in that direction.
The league is reportedly considering tougher rules on the anthem. Its current policy asks players to stand for the anthem, but only allows for possible disciplinary measures if players are not on the field.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/354747-white-house-backs-nfl-rule-change-requiring-players-to-stand-for
dembotoz
(16,806 posts)coolsandy
(479 posts)We are on our way to shredding what is left of the Constitution. Why doesn't Goodell recognize this?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Aristus
(66,380 posts)Stop the one, and we'll do the other.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)I don't watch the NBA anymore because they force players to stand.
Glad to give up the NFL if they do the same.
DK504
(3,847 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)edhopper
(33,580 posts)before 2009 when the NFL started taking DOD money to have the players go out.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)Knowing Goodell, people need to be prepared to eat $hit from joyous cons on social media ...
forgotmylogin
(7,529 posts)Let people enjoy non Olympic sports without a requisite dose of "patriotism".
Or at least also require that they stop selling beer in the stands during the anthem as well.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)talented players, not substitutes or other scrubs.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)they need the fans, and considering how the NFL ratings have become abysmal this season, I think the owners are going to do whatever they think the fans want.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)And that may include no more pledges of allegiance or standing for the national anthem.
American democracy no longer exists since Russia hacked our election.
So what is the point?
GusBob
(7,286 posts)The NA has nothing at all to do with the game of football
They just started with the players on the field 10 years ago.
They are shilling this a "rule change" They should stick to the rules of the game
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)louis-t
(23,295 posts)A president should not be involved in this. Doesn't he have ANYTHING better to do?
niyad
(113,323 posts)Zoonart
(11,868 posts)He is an agent of chaos.
rainin
(3,011 posts)He has no right to ask what he's asking. IMO only Kaepernick can make this ask.
If the commissioner wants to ask the team leaders to support the movement, he can say that. To encourage the silencing of free speech -- that's a no go!
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)No they shouldnt. Not if they fucking dont want to.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)So the Billionaire Owners and Trump ass kissers, had their paid stooge issue a Plantation Owners,mandatory Labor Compliance Ruling.
Next thing will be a Whipping Post in the End Zone for those who dare challenge the Mighty White Boss Man.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)SAD.
niyad
(113,323 posts)sport he leads?
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)Keep the players in the locker room until after the Anthem is played. And why do they have to play the Anthem before every game. Most who attend games know what country they're in.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)about ANY of these pro sports leagues. That said: Too bad the players don't have enough unity to just not show up to play. What would the owners and the leages do about that - fire everybody? Imagine the power of that! When these stupid sports teams start issuing checks for me to waste my Sundays in front of a TV, I might get excited. Although, maybe "excited" is stretching it.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Professional athletes are just like the rest of our nation's citizens. They all have different opinions.
It wouldn't surprise me to find that the divisions in our citizenry are paralleled in the ranks of athletes. There are a lot of players who supported Trump and his positions.
In short, I don't think that all of the players would go along with your suggestion. I wish they would, however.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)how much does a average person pay for a ticket, $150.00 a piece in the nose bleed section, while you pull your little dictator shit.
You have the means asshole, to stop this nonsense, you are basically letting a fucking sexual predator and his worthless Penedjo lackeys inside Russia and outside Russia dictate the terms of freedom. I for one do not stand for the flag, and I do not sing the national racists anthem-----------------------why, because I don't have too, I don't have to make other people happy or sad and to make everyone feel good and show what unity, while I pay for jets to scream overhead or to make people take a big old flag and wave it up and down on the field.
Do you Goodell, that any part of that flag which touches the ground its is suppose to be burned, go on a military base and see how they raise and lower one, while everyone during and evening revelry has to stand and look to where the post is and salute.
I don't go to a game to play military , and I sure as hell don't go to a game and watch my thousands of tax dollars flying over head while I have a Congress and Penedjo sexual predator gutting my Medicare and Social Security to pay for this shit, while you and him and others make millions fucking people.
I just gotta ask Goodell, when was the last time that you heard this asshole sexual predator speak about the four soldiers that were killed in Niger .....................now that is something I can stand for before a game ----------------------to remember those four families and those four men, asshole.......................its about the Constitution, there is no mention of the "flag" in that document, no where
FUCK YOU
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)thats chicken feed for a GOP Oligarch !
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)watch the sport of football crumble from this utter BS.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)That shit Goodell said right there. That is how you motivate Americans. "You can't." "You're not allowed." To whit, Americans tend to respond 'Fuck you', for better or worse on general principle.
matt819
(10,749 posts)There is often a cost for civil disobedience. It'll be interesting to see how the players respond. If enough continue kneeling or locking arms, that puts the NFL and owners in an interesting position. Will they fire the players? If they do nothing except huff and puff, they'll come across as the buffoons they are.
It's not about the flag or the anthem or patriotism.
It's about white policemen killing unarmed black civilians, in many cases kids. As another commenter observed, stop doing that, and they'll stop kneeling.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Everyone should be forced to stand for the anthem.............
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)Everyone knows this has nothing to do with patriotism and everything to do with submission.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Nothing say patriotism like a FAT CHECK...........
"Add in the fact that the NFL received millions of taxpayer dollars from the Department of Defense and the National Guard for patriotic displays, and it puts the entire Kaepernick hullabaloo in a different light. "Fans should have confidence that their hometown heroes are being honored because of their honorable military service, not as a marketing ploy," Senator John McCain, the Vietnam War veteran and P.O.W., said in a statement last year coinciding with "Tackling Paid Patriotism," a joint oversight report released by McCain and his fellow Arizona Republican Senator John Flake."
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem
rickford66
(5,523 posts)Then stand with back to flag until not allowed.
Then stand with praying hands until ....
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)There is a huge principle at play here and I don't think the players will disappoint. I seriously doubt they'll let A-holes like dotard and his party, Roger Goodell, Jerry Jones, etc. stifle them. My money's on them doing the right thing and f*k the game and their BS narrative.
This is going to get very, very ugly before it's over:
Local labor union files complaint over Jerry Jones' anthem mandate
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20984095/labor-union-files-complaint-cowboys-jerry-jones-national-anthem-mandate-team
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)could act to remove the overtly racist third verse to the anthem
before they demand that African-Americans "honor" it.
And they are the same people who whine endlessly about political correctness,
but can't wait to force speech on others, as in standing for the anthem.
And actually, there are numerous legitimate reasons why someone might decline
to stand. For this Vietnam vet, it's the torture state.
People forget that Trump ran on an explicit torture platform - which somehow
the MSM neglected to highlight. Of course it is against both US and international
law.
I'm done standing to honor the torture state or its flag.
trof
(54,256 posts)Docreed2003
(16,861 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)WTF, everybody take a knee this week! Celebrate the Constitution and what it stands for, the right for peaceful protest!!!!! Go to Hell Trump!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Lokilooney
(322 posts)The proper way to salute the American flag after saying the pledge of allegiance, shame what happened to that...What is your point might I ask?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...and has a lot more to do with authoritarianism.
Lokilooney
(322 posts)It's just without context your particular example could caused confusion for some.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)judging by declining TV ratings, DirecTV returns, and merchandise sales.
While nearly everyone says they support "equality", not standing for the flag seems to have generated a negative response from the NFL's audience. The NFL is a business, and if they want to stay in business, they need to keep their audience happy.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Maxheader
(4,373 posts)..
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)do they have a CLUE regarding the irony of that bullshit?
spooky3
(34,456 posts)ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)spooky3
(34,456 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,148 posts)And endlessly barrage the media with the truth about what this symbolizes, until 45 backs down.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)I have a feeling it isn't going to go the way they think it is.
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Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But this makes me want to go to one, just so I remain seated. It isn't freedom if it's coerced.