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Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:31 PM Oct 2017

Utah's 'Negro Bill Canyon' renamed after years of debate

Source: Associated Press


Updated 7:43 pm, Thursday, October 12, 2017

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — After years of debate, a U.S. government board has voted to rename Utah's Negro Bill Canyon, overruling a recommendation by Utah officials to keep the name.

The U.S. Board on Geographic Names decided Thursday to rename it Grandstaff Canyon to get rid of an offensive name, The Salt Lake Tribune reports . The vote was 12-0, with one member declining to vote. The decision comes 16 years after the board voted to keep the name.
 
The new name honors black rancher and prospector William Grandstaff, whose cattle grazed there in the 1870s.

"His name was Grandstaff; it was not Negro Bill," said Wendi-Starr Brown, a member of the federal board who is Native American. "I'm pretty sure that's not how he wanted to be addressed in life."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Utah-s-Negro-Bill-Canyon-renamed-after-years-of-12273084.php

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Utah's 'Negro Bill Canyon' renamed after years of debate (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2017 OP
There was much insensitivity in times past. I remember "Dead Indian Road" in Southern Oregon. Binkie The Clown Oct 2017 #1
I've been there Retrograde Oct 2017 #3
The story goes... Binkie The Clown Oct 2017 #6
I've hiked that canyon brokephibroke Oct 2017 #2
So, it's still named after the same person Retrograde Oct 2017 #4
I've wondered about the name change... Goblor Oct 2017 #5
That was super cool !! n/t jaysunb Oct 2017 #7
In Western MD and PA there is still Negro Mountain Botany Oct 2017 #8
We had a N****r Bayou on the map for many years FLPanhandle Oct 2017 #9
Yup, I'm sure people loved the idea of a black rancher owning cattle in the civil war era IronLionZion Oct 2017 #10
There is a Negro Bar in Folsom, outside of Sacramento. bermudat Oct 2017 #11

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
1. There was much insensitivity in times past. I remember "Dead Indian Road" in Southern Oregon.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:00 PM
Oct 2017

It was changed years ago to "Dead Indian Memorial Road". I'm not sure that's any better.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. The story goes...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:51 AM
Oct 2017


According to the Medford newspaper: http://www.mailtribune.com/article/20110220/news/102200334

By late summer 1855, vengeance and retribution were about to explode. Settlers and American Indians both felt the tension.

Two years after the 1853 Rogue River Indian War had ended, fear and suspicion were stronger than ever.

In September 1855, Fred Alberding was returning to the Oregon Territory after a year living in the United States. He made camp in the Siskiyou Mountains off the Applegate Trail.

When he woke up, one of his horses was missing. Seeing smoke from a nearby Indian village, he decided they must have taken it.


What follows is a tale of violent gun battles and Indians wrongly blamed for horse stealing.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
4. So, it's still named after the same person
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:20 PM
Oct 2017

but it's going to be called by his formal name instead of a nickname. Sounds fine to me.

Goblor

(163 posts)
5. I've wondered about the name change...
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:46 PM
Oct 2017

About time. I've hiked the canyon several times and recommend it. I did a fly-over a while back, starting at 1:40: [link:

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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
9. We had a N****r Bayou on the map for many years
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 08:40 AM
Oct 2017

It was renamed Negro Bayou sometime in the 50's.

Now it's call Chula Vista Bayou.

Sometimes, you have to look back in time and shake your head wondering "What in the Hell were they thinking?"

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
10. Yup, I'm sure people loved the idea of a black rancher owning cattle in the civil war era
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:10 AM
Oct 2017

and couldn't help themselves but to call out his race.

Maybe Orange Donald can chime in about the importance of preserving history so that young people don't forget...or something.

I'd like to start naming sewage pipes after Trump.

bermudat

(1,329 posts)
11. There is a Negro Bar in Folsom, outside of Sacramento.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 03:03 PM
Oct 2017

Though I suspect it was called something else 100 years ago.

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