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riversedge

(70,218 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:37 PM Oct 2017

Like Queen Elizabeth, Trump's Zinke Has Department of the Interior Fly Special Flag Just For Him

Source: Newsweek


By Graham Lanktree On 10/13/17 at 5:32 AM


When Queen Elizabeth visits Buckingham Palace a flag is raised to mark her visit—President Donald Trump’s Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke has been getting similar pomp and circumstance every day when he heads to work.

When Zinke enters the Department of the Interior in Washington, a member of the security staff heads to the roof to raise a special flag, The Washington Post reported Thursday. The flag—depicting a bison—is then lowered when Zinke leaves for the day. It also travels with him when he heads anywhere in the U.S. on official business.

“If we had a secretarial flag at the Obama Labor Department, we never bothered to locate it or use it,” Chris Lu, Deputy Secretary of Labor in the Obama administration told The Post. The practice, Lu said, mirrors exactly how Queen Elizabeth is treated. Other Trump Cabinet officials, and even President Donald Trump, have not adopted similar practices................................

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/queen-elizabeth-trumps-zinke-has-department-interior-fly-special-flag-just-him-683988



lordy lord. Enough of this crap!




Where’s Zinke? The interior secretary’s special flag offers clues.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wheres-zinke-the-interior-secretarys-special-flag-offers-clues/2017/10/12/68672476-aeb2-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html?utm_term=.e3d27d7b84da


By Lisa Rein October 12 at 6:04 PM

At the Interior Department’s headquarters in downtown Washington, Secretary Ryan Zinke has revived an arcane military ritual that no one can remember ever happening in the federal government.

A security staffer takes the elevator to the seventh floor, climbs the stairs to the roof and hoists a special secretarial flag whenever Zinke enters the building. When the secretary goes home for the day or travels, the flag — a blue banner emblazoned with the agency’s bison seal flanked by seven white stars representing the Interior bureaus — comes down.

In Zinke’s absence, the ritual is repeated to raise an equally obscure flag for Deputy Secretary David Bernhardt.

Responding this week to questions from The Washington Post, a spokeswoman for Zinke, a former Navy SEAL commander, defended the Navy flag-flying tradition as “a major sign of transparency.”

“Ryan Zinke is proud and honored to lead the Department of the Interior, and is restoring honor and tradition to the department, whether it’s flying the flag when he is in garrison or restoring traditional access to public lands,” press secretary Heather Swift said in an email........................

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The flag of the Interior Department's deputy secretary, bottom, flew last week above the headquarters building in downtown Washington. (Jonathan Newton/The Washington Post)





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Like Queen Elizabeth, Trump's Zinke Has Department of the Interior Fly Special Flag Just For Him (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2017 OP
Don't Forget His Coin Me. Oct 2017 #1
+1 dalton99a Oct 2017 #3
I Would Love This INfo To Go Viral Me. Oct 2017 #4
Most agency heads have coins Action_Patrol Oct 2017 #12
Not Personalized Me. Oct 2017 #16
They are challenge coins. Yes they are personalized. Action_Patrol Oct 2017 #17
Not According To This Source Me. Oct 2017 #19
I have not heard of it. but thanks for heads up. riversedge Oct 2017 #15
Challege coins Sgent Oct 2017 #18
Narcissistic entitlement. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #2
what an asshole..... dhill926 Oct 2017 #5
Of course he is, spike jones Oct 2017 #7
I guess he really wanted to be an Admiral. Adrahil Oct 2017 #6
You beat me to it. TomSlick Oct 2017 #10
Oh dear.. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #8
Not yet...does anyone know where we can get guillotine plans? jmowreader Oct 2017 #14
These people are completely insane. DK504 Oct 2017 #9
Under the same U.S. flag law that suggests you stand at attention.... rlegro Oct 2017 #11
Am I the only one that thinks Zika (virus) each time I see his name? Solly Mack Oct 2017 #13

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. Don't Forget His Coin
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:40 PM
Oct 2017

A commemorative personalized with his name on it. This seems to be escaping notice.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. I Would Love This INfo To Go Viral
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:55 PM
Oct 2017

Flag & Coin...cause when 45 finally gets wind of this 'Princeling' he'll be a goner and maybe some of our National Parks can be saved.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
16. Not Personalized
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 09:59 AM
Oct 2017

"He has commissioned commemorative coins with his name on them to give to staff and visitors, but the cost to taxpayers is unclear. Zinke's predecessors and some other Cabinet secretaries have coins bearing agency seals, but not personalized ones"

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
17. They are challenge coins. Yes they are personalized.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:26 AM
Oct 2017

The one I linked to was also personalized. The guy is a sleaze but the coins are common practice.
It doesn't matter what whoever wrote that piece said. They are misinformed.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
18. Challege coins
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:37 AM
Oct 2017

are quite common, especially in government circles (it evolved from the military). I'd be more surprised if he didn't have a coin.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. I guess he really wanted to be an Admiral.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

In the military generals and admirals have their own flags (that's why they are called Flag Officers). He seems to wan to turn the Dept of the interior into his own military command. His spokes drone even referred to hq as a "garrison."

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
10. You beat me to it.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 08:11 PM
Oct 2017

Zinke is a former Navy guy (I think). As you say, flag officers have, well, flags. In the Army, if the general is in the HQ, his/her flag is posted at the door. If an admiral is on a ship, his/her flag flies from a mast. That why the command ship in a taskforce, etc. is called the "flag ship." Flag officers' official vehicles have either little flags or placards on the front with their stars. Service members junior to the rank show on the flag or placard are expected to salute the vehicle.

Army generals also have coins which they give out as a recognition of good work not calling for an award (ribbon/medal). My bet is that admirals also have coins. Yes, the taxpayers pay for these as a relatively cheap tool for good morale. Every Army person I know has a collection of them.

Several senior political figures also have flags. I recall attending speeches by the Army General Counsel at the Army JAG School and his flag was posted on the stage along with the flags of the general officers also on the stage. I can't imagine a political figure using his/her flag except in the military environment. My bet is that Zinke wants to play admiral.

There is no want of egos in the Trump administration that need stroking.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
9. These people are completely insane.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 08:01 PM
Oct 2017

That guard should smile and nod and never so something so outrageous.

rlegro

(338 posts)
11. Under the same U.S. flag law that suggests you stand at attention....
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:04 AM
Oct 2017

.... for the raising of the flag and the playing of the National Anthem is an admonition that the U.S. flag is never to be shared on the same pole with other flags. And all this begs another question: When they raise Zinke bison flag, are Interior employees immediately supposed to turn toward it and put their hands over their hearts? Or is that just optional?

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
13. Am I the only one that thinks Zika (virus) each time I see his name?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:20 AM
Oct 2017

I see his name - Zinke - and I always add "virus" in my mind. Can't help it - it always happens.

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