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hack89

(39,171 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:55 AM Aug 2012

P.G. council member Toles to welcome new Chick-fil-A

Source: Washington Times

The decision whether to eat at Chick-fil-A has become a hot-button issue since the fast food company’s president opened up about his support for traditional marriage, but one local politician says she’s not making a political statement by welcoming the company with open arms.

Prince George's County Council member Karen R. Toles, a Democrat, said she’s attending the opening of a Chick-fil-A in District Heights on Thursday to celebrate the economic development in her community.

When you have someone who hires over 100 people from your county alone, that is something to celebrate,” Ms. Toles said.

“I’m solely looking at the jobs,” she said. “This is a huge economic boost.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/8/pg-council-member-toles-to-welcome-new-chick-fil-a/



I don't support Chick-fil-A but I understand Toles' position - getting people jobs has to be the number one priority of every elected official.
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P.G. council member Toles to welcome new Chick-fil-A (Original Post) hack89 Aug 2012 OP
over 100 jobs at that one chick-fil-a-gay-away? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #1
Maybe includes the builders? Stargazer09 Aug 2012 #2
I wonder if she was referring to all the Chik-fil-a stores in PG country? hack89 Aug 2012 #4
The bold included text... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #8
At minimum wage, right? Auggie Aug 2012 #3
+1 nt Javaman Aug 2012 #5
I wish they would stop referring to it as "traditional marriage." Pool Hall Ace Aug 2012 #6
Is getting people jobs the number one priority? primavera Aug 2012 #7
That's not actually true. Igel Aug 2012 #9
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
1. over 100 jobs at that one chick-fil-a-gay-away?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:03 AM
Aug 2012

they must be including mail service, elect service, delivery people, who already have jobs, just adding the store to the route.

Just can't see that many jobs coming from this one fast food place.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
2. Maybe includes the builders?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:14 AM
Aug 2012

I could easily see building a new stand-alone location, or redesigning a space in a mall, as adding jobs to a local economy. Sure, they would be temporary jobs, but they would be considered part of the total number of jobs directly related to the restaurant.

Other than that, I can't see them hiring that many people at once.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. I wonder if she was referring to all the Chik-fil-a stores in PG country?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:22 AM
Aug 2012

I have never worked fast food so I don't know how many employees there are per store.

If Chik-fil-a has plans to expand further county wide, I can understand her desire to stay on their good side.

primavera

(5,191 posts)
7. Is getting people jobs the number one priority?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:53 AM
Aug 2012

What if the jobs they want to get for people are in strip mining? Or offshore drilling? Or working in sweat shops?

I don't know, I admit, getting people jobs is a pretty important priority, but the perception of it as the most important priority kind of renders you hostage to the so-called "job creators," whose interests have to be pandered to in order to milk a few jobs from them, no matter what the cost in other areas. Ideally, shouldn't the focus be on getting people good jobs and not just on getting any crappy table scrap job that the 1% happens to let fall?

An aside, this Washington Times piece offers an illuminating illustration of propagandistic "journalism." Notice how they describe Chick-fil-A's position as "supportive of traditional marriage"? Chick-fil-A hasn't expressed any positive message in support of any kind of marriage; they've only expressed prejudice towards same sex marriages. Classic propaganda spin.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
9. That's not actually true.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aug 2012

The groups billed in a 2010 report as "anti-gay" are mostly "pro-traditional." Their "conferences" are usually focused on "traditional marriage" but most of what comes out of them, most of the titles and speakers, really focus on preventing divorce, keeping man/woman marriages together, and working on support for families (which, in most cases, would also help single-parent families that they decry as suboptimal).

That 2010 report linked to a reference in which one of the board members or officials of the group taking in the highest amount from CFA that year was proud that all the officials were with their first wives. No divorce. That's how that group defines itself.

Or they're pro-celibacy. (That would be the youth athletics group.) If you're looking at a bunch of high school athletes and are against straight- and gay-sex, you're mostly talking "heterosexual." Unless you think most of the athletes are gay. Even then, that group is not mostly concerned with how their members use their genitalia. They're not a groin-centered organization. I have problems with definitions and hypotheses that meet my assumptions but account for very little of the data. Esp. when they make me the focus of everybody's effort. (I usually figure I'm not really that important. Often when I nail a student for some transgression or to better manage my classroom so I can teach s/he thinks it's personal personal and somehow s/he's central to my life. I keep the student's just not that important. I remove pebbles when they get in my shoes, but they're an annoyance, not central to my life.)

Some of the groups are more narrowly anti-gay and less obviously pro-"traditional", but those usually got small amounts of $. And at least a few had other focuses, as well. So some "family" group also lobbied about the budget-bill behind the ACA and also against gambling.

Even the WinShape Foundation's mostly pro-traditional marriage and not anti stuff. The Cathy rant was given, after all, at a marriage retreat, and consisted of a few minutes out of a long talk that he gave, and his talk was one of many activities. Unless there's some evidence that all or at least most of those straight marriages were on the rocks because one or both of the members came to realize they were actually gay, Cathy's rant was an aside or minor point. A "and here's another thing" kind of example.

Even their annoying closed-Sundays schtick is old and unchanged since before I was born: it's to give those who want to go to church Sunday time off, and even if you don't then it's family time. It's a privately-imposed blue law. In Maryland many years ago a Saturday-Sabbath keeper tried to tell me that the blue laws in the state were intended to punish sabbatarians. I told him he wasn't that important: The laws were old and intended to prevent distractions from "traditional church" services and Sunday family time, not to make it hard for him to buy beer by having the stores open on Saturday when he was at church and having the stores closed on Sunday when he was at liberty to buy alcohol.

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