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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:06 PM Oct 2017

Kentucky judge resigns rather than hear gay people's cases

Source: LGBTQ Nation




By Alex Bollinger · Friday, October 27, 2017

A Kentucky judge who refused to hear cases involving gay and lesbian parents just announced his resignation. In April, Mitchell Nance, a family court judge in rural Kentucky, issued an order requiring lawyers representing gay and lesbian parents in adoption cases to notify him of their clients’ sexuality so that he could recuse himself in advance.

In his order, he said that he believes that “the best interest of the child” can never “be promoted by the adoption by a practicing homosexual.” He cited a state rule that requires judges to recuse themselves in cases where their prejudice affects their impartiality. Gay and lesbian parents would have to get the county court to hire a special judge to handle their cases.

Nance submitted his order to the state supreme court for approval and it was rejected by the chief justice. Local LGBTQ activists called on him to resign and filed a complaint with the judicial disciplinary panel, and he was charged with violating judicial ethics rules.

In his response to the complaint, Nance’s lawyer wrote that he thought he was doing the right thing and being fair to everyone by announcing his prejudice. “His recusal would have facilitated the impartiality of the judicial system and ensured that all families had a fair opportunity for adoption.” His response goes on to state that it’s his “sincerely held religious belief” that “the divinely created order of nature is that each human being has a male parent and a female parent.”




Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/10/kentucky-judge-resigns-rather-hear-gay-peoples-cases

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Kentucky judge resigns rather than hear gay people's cases (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
one asshole down, how many millions to go???? niyad Oct 2017 #1
Good Cirque du So-What Oct 2017 #2
It would be perfect... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #3
See Ya Asshole👋 irisblue Oct 2017 #4
I feel he did the right thing Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #5
I agree. In a more populous county it might not have been a problem. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #9
I 3rd your opinion, obviously I deplore the bigotry in principle, but mildly applaud his attempt to mr_lebowski Oct 2017 #19
I agree with you about the hypocrisy but I'm a little less negative about the actual Bible Jim Lane Oct 2017 #20
Not exactly what I said ... and also not what I meant ... mr_lebowski Oct 2017 #22
Sorry, I misunderstood you. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #24
in this guys world weissmam Oct 2017 #6
Future Supreme Court Justice under the current "president"? Behind the Aegis Oct 2017 #7
I wouldn't be surprised. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #8
or bluestarone Oct 2017 #15
In the words of Ray Charles, "Hit the road Jack, and dontcha come back no more" nt iluvtennis Oct 2017 #10
Good riddance you ignorant shit. Corvo Bianco Oct 2017 #11
Sounds like a budding Roy Moore. lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #12
See 'Ya SergeStorms Oct 2017 #13
sick fuck Skittles Oct 2017 #14
Don't let the door hit you in your bigoted ass. n/t X_Digger Oct 2017 #16
I'm glad he resigned rather than trying to make some twisted bigoted stand xor Oct 2017 #17
i would love to introduce this guy to the gay people I have known. demigoddess Oct 2017 #18
Supremacist being a supremacist HAB911 Oct 2017 #21
That's proper. malthaussen Oct 2017 #23

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
5. I feel he did the right thing
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

He knew he was bigoted and tried to be fair .......... which is a good thing

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. I agree. In a more populous county it might not have been a problem.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

If the court had more than one judge, the LGBTQ parents could appear before a judge who would treat them fairly. This guy would get assigned other cases to balance out the workload. He'd still be setting a bad example of bigotry, but there is something to be said for the open admission of bigotry.

My inference from the article is that he was the only family court judge in the county. His recusals, therefore, couldn't be handled by reassigning the cases. Per the article, "Gay and lesbian parents would have to get the county court to hire a special judge to handle their cases." That might mean a judge less familiar with the law governing family court issues. It would certainly mean that some pandering politician would complain that the county taxpayers were being burdened to provide "special rights" to some people. Under those circumstances, his resignation is the best solution.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. I 3rd your opinion, obviously I deplore the bigotry in principle, but mildly applaud his attempt to
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 06:10 AM
Oct 2017

at least TRY to 'do the right thing' afa 'justice' is concerned by attempting to recuse himself from cases involving LGBT folks, cases he admits he cannot hear impartially.

It's as 'fair' of a compromise to a complex situation as can be reasonably expected ... at least in a Red area.

At the same time I just can't help but laugh at these assholes who try to pretend that 'religious reasons' actually 'justify' their hate and bigotry. Or funnier still ... that they try to convince us they're OBLIGED to be bigots ... LOLOLOLOL.

Fact is, their 'Bible' is filled with horrific violence, revenge-porn, and so much TERRIBLE advice it's pathetic. 99% of which these same people simply ignore on a daily basis because they realize it's friggin' stupid, outdated and just plain wrong ... but somehow they've not figured out that if 99% is crap, pretty decent chance that it's actually ALL CRAP.

I'm talking about things like, I dunno ... that a MAN is justified in killing his wife if she's unfaithful, and in murdering his children if they fail to properly 'respect him' ... or killing his new bride (who was likely to be 11-13 years old at the time their Holy Book was written) if it turned out she's misrepresented herself as a 'virgin' at the time of the wedding.

Even this ridiculous Book of theirs basically puts 'being gay' the same level of 'sin' as 'eating shellfish' and 'wearing clothing of mixed threads' ... and yet they expect us to believe it's just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUKCING IMPORTANT to them that people 'not be gay' cause 'The Book'. Why isn't this shitbird recusing himself from hearing cases re: Shellfish Consumers, and people who buy clothing at Ross, I wonder?

What's so friggin' important about the written words of uneducated wandering desert nomads who lived 2000 years ago, people who knew SFA about ANYTHING?

If you think about it, an average 4th grader of today has an almost infinitely greater understanding of the realities of 'life' and 'the Universe' than ANYONE who put a pen to paper in writing the so-called 'Holy Bible'.

If you could put a random fourth grader from 2017 back in Biblical Times he/she'd have ended up celebrated and revered like 1000x more than Jesus, mark my words. Their 'wisdom' would've ASTOUNDED people back then. But we're supposed to believe ... what ... those folks had everything 'figured out'? PFFFFT. They didn't know SHIT back then ... so adhering to their 'opinions' nowadays ... pretty much makes you a moron.

If you couldn't already tell ... I really hate people who try to justify their bigotry and hate ... by leveraging
'Religious Freedom'. Frankly ... F everyone who attempts to do so. Go be 'religious' in the privacy of your friggin' HOME, that's what 'homes' ... are for.

BTW ... Jesus? ... He would HATE YOUR ASS, Mitch. You've completely perverted his message, and used it to justify a behavior that He expressed SO MANY TIMES ... that He was opposed to.

You should be ashamed, Mitch ...

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
20. I agree with you about the hypocrisy but I'm a little less negative about the actual Bible
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:38 AM
Oct 2017

You write that 99% of it is "friggin' stupid, outdated and just plain wrong ...." I'm not religious but I'd put that percentage somewhat lower. Consider the Sermon on the Mount. We might as well consider it because the right-wing religious fundies never do. I think the hypocrisy here is even more blatant than the way they ignore all the foolishness in Leviticus (shellfish bad, slavery good, etc.).

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Not exactly what I said ... and also not what I meant ...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 08:15 AM
Oct 2017

That said, I should've specified that I was primarily referring to the 'Old' Testament ... the 'New' one at least has a modicum of what I'd consider 'good advice' ... most of which, as you allude to ... most fundies these days do an even better job of ignoring.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
24. Sorry, I misunderstood you.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 11:41 AM
Oct 2017

I agree with you that the Old Testament has a higher bullshit proportion than the New Testament. Even as to the Old Testament, I think 99% bullshit is probably too high. After all, Ecclesiastes provided Pete Seeger with the lyrics for "Turn! Turn! Turn!" That alone is worth something.

weissmam

(905 posts)
6. in this guys world
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:57 PM
Oct 2017

which religion takes precedence, you could easily say that my religion says that same sex couples are OK and that you are violating my sincerely held religious beliefs . In other words keep your religion to your self

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Sounds like a budding Roy Moore.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 05:08 PM
Oct 2017

I'm sure he'll be careful to curtail his wide-stance activities until his next campaign is over.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
13. See 'Ya
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 05:16 PM
Oct 2017

Don't let the door hit you where the Flying Spaghetti Monster split 'ya!

What a douche nozzle.

xor

(1,204 posts)
17. I'm glad he resigned rather than trying to make some twisted bigoted stand
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:53 PM
Oct 2017

similar to that Kim Davis lady. So, he does get some credit for that, and also for recognizing his bigotry wouldn't allow his simple reptilian brain to be fair and impartial.

Not that any of that makes up for his backward bigotry.

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
18. i would love to introduce this guy to the gay people I have known.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:08 PM
Oct 2017

Darn good parents to children who are handicapped and abandoned by their straight parents.

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
23. That's proper.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:03 AM
Oct 2017

If you can't do your job, resign. The man is entitled to his beliefs, however he should not use a position of authority to enforce them. I wish more people had this sort of minimal integrity.

-- Mal

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