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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:05 PM Oct 2017

Spain suspends Catalonia's government, takes over regional police, calls for snap elections

Source: The Washington Post



By William Booth and Pamela Rolfe October 27 at 3:00 PM

BARCELONA — Spain moved boldly against Catalonia on Friday, suspending the breakaway region’s government, taking over its police force and calling for snap elections in December, just hours after Catalan lawmakers declared independence.

Madrid’s actions capped a day of developments in the month-long crisis: Catalonia’s declaration of independence prompted the Spanish Senate to give the central government unprecedented powers over the region.

The two votes — one for independence, one to restore constitutional rule — came in dueling sessions of parliaments in Barcelona and Madrid.

The central government easily won permission to take over control of Catalonia. Meanwhile, secessionists in Catalonia faced bitter recriminations from Catalan foes who called the move for nationhood a coup and a historic blunder, a month after a referendum that backed a split from Spain.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-day-of-fireworks-in-catalonia-both-spanish-and-catalan-parliaments-are-scheduled-to-convene/2017/10/27/09685d34-ba90-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html

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Spain suspends Catalonia's government, takes over regional police, calls for snap elections (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
Oh, this is going to end well. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #1
Rajoy has no one to blame but himself sandensea Oct 2017 #2
Russia seems to want to break up as many nations as possible. Thor_MN Oct 2017 #3
Sure - but trust me, Catalonia didn't need anyone's encouragement. sandensea Oct 2017 #4
Assange's dirty long fingers were part of the break also Wwcd Oct 2017 #5
Russia previously announced its support for Spain. Igel Oct 2017 #6
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. Russia seems to want to break up as many nations as possible.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:23 PM
Oct 2017

Russia is fomenting divisiveness globally.

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
4. Sure - but trust me, Catalonia didn't need anyone's encouragement.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

Resentment toward Madrid dates from at least the Franco dictatorship, when his forces (with Hitler's help) brutally squelched a separatist effort in the 1930s - and afterward spent 40 years sucking them dry in order to bolster his own region (the most conservative and backward in Spain), Galicia.

The post-Franco constitution and other reforms mollified separatist sentiments for a while; but Spain's collapse in 2009 - and Rajoy's trickle-down dogma - has no doubt done a lot to revive them.

The final straw was the thuggish attack on the 1st of this month (see footage above). Over 800 injured.

Basically, Rajoy's going full-Franco on them - and that, you do not do.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
5. Assange's dirty long fingers were part of the break also
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:45 PM
Oct 2017

Brexit, America Spain.
Julian Assange & wikileaks work for Vlad

Igel

(35,362 posts)
6. Russia previously announced its support for Spain.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:22 PM
Oct 2017

And its lack of support for Catalunya.

This is consistent. Overall, Russia opposes shifting borders.

Russia becomes less consistent when the shifts in borders benefit it directly. But to support Catalunya would be to license support for potential break-away regions in the Russian Federation and justify the breakup of the USSR.

It pays to note, however, that in many ways Russia prefers that Russian minority populations stay in their current countries--that gives them leverage over those countries. You get them openly supporting S. Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transdnistria, and the Donbas when those populations lose their disproportionate importance in a nation-state that's increasingly "fascist" (meaning 'anti-Russian') and so then the fall-back position is open disruption of the nation-state that those populations were part of.

Rumors are and have been that Russia will simply annex S. Ossetia and Abkhazia, but those rumors are like the undead. No matter how long they're around, they're still around; and no matter how many times they are buried, they dig their way back to the surface. Eventually, perhaps, one will finally be right.

The Crimea is a blatant exception to this, but rhetoric in Russia had long been it was part of Russia and, well, the naval bases there were just too important to let expiring contracts put at risk. Nominal independence as in Abkhazia would have been problematic and been a thorn in Russia's side in ways that simple annexation by fictive vote would never be.

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