But it will play to the base.

If Trump gets another, all bets are off and things will get very, very bad.

Agreed. But then again, I think the court is gone with Gorsuch on it.

FORCING a woman to have a child with Down's is reprehensible. There will be women who'll do abortions on themselves. But, Rethuglican=reprehensible.

Advocates for the disabled versus pro-choice.

Disgusting.

a down syndrome baby if they voted this way.

Since they are so into taking care of people with this syndrome, let's see them not look like hypocrites.

sounds fair to me!

This is a highly personal decision. If you're a personal friend of someone in this situation, maybe (but only maybe) you can weigh in here.

Otherwise, it's none of your beeswax.

When I was expecting my second child, and I'd be 38 when it would be born, I was offered pre-natal testing for Down syndrome. I chose not to do it, because I honestly felt that this was not the worst thing that could happen and that I could handle such a child. Again, a highly personal choice. As it turns out, the baby was as normal as any baby could be, and definitely did not have Down Syndrome. But I'd be the last person to tell another mother she should have such a baby.

Each one of us only knows our own life circumstances. None of us is ever entitled to judge others. Ever.

to do. It helps if the parents are smart, have money, and/or are patient, but none of those things "fix" it. It still means your life is turned upside down. Nothing is the same - spiritual life, friendships, social life, work, and dynamics between parents' siblings, siblings of the disabled, are affected. Your time becomes someone else's for the rest of your life.

That these people should force this on families is cruel. It needs to be their choice.

(in my opinion)

But that does bring up some interesting/hard questions and possible future issues. Are there any ethical issues with aborting a fetus based on other perceived undesirable traits? Let's say sex, or eye color, or the ability to test for intelligence or maybe sexual orientation. Now there are obvious differences between down syndrome and those traits I just listed, and I think most people can at least understand why people view those as different. But what about when comes to testing for other medical issues such as ADHD, autism, schizophrenia, or other debilitating conditions?

I tend to lean toward what I said in the subject line, but I am curious what others think on this. Not sure if this is a bit too "heavy" of a topic for DU, though. I don't want to offend or upset anyone here.

But if they did...not my body, not my choice

It's not "get approval from other people" choice. Plain and simple.

There are women who use abortion as their primary form of birth control. That's their right. Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter.
There are women who choose to have severely disabled children. That's their right. Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter.
There are women who have ten kids. That's their right. Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter.
There are women who never want to have children. That's their right. Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter.

Choice is choice. Theirs, not anyone else's.

when they are going to have a disabled child that they would never have the money to support because the moment that baby is born you are on your own and that child will never have rights under this administration because anything for special learning will have gone out the door and if that child has some of the issues that most down syndrome children do you and that child is screwed. Trump and his goons hate the disabled yet they force women to have disabled children. Sounds pretty fucked to me.

But the Ohio GOP is obviously trying to set up a Supreme Court challenge, in hopes of overturning or chipping away at Roe v. Wade. Fucking assholes.

And of course these GOP cretins are doing NOTHING to make it financially possible for a woman to have a disabled child when she does choose to do so. The GOP doesn't give a shit about Down syndrome children, just Down syndrome fetuses. To be even more precise, the GOP only cares about forcing women to give birth against their will.

All the conservatives care about is that that baby takes its first breath. After that, it's on its own.

the state, i.e., all taxpayers, to finance all lifetime care costs for these kids. You can bet when it comes down to brass tacks, voters will choose abortion over potential tax increases every time.

and to add that amount to state taxes. Put if right in the bill.

See how they react.