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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:02 AM Nov 2017

Republicans Release Tax Plan, Cutting Corporate and Middle-Class Taxes

Source: New York Times




By JIM TANKERSLEY and THOMAS KAPLANNOV. 2, 2017


WASHINGTON — Republican lawmakers are unveiling the most sweeping rewrite of the tax code in decades, outlining a plan to cut taxes for corporations, reduce them for middle-class families and tilt the United States closer, but not entirely, toward the kind of tax system long championed by businesses, according to talking points circulated on Thursday.

The House plan, released after weeks of internal debate, conflict and delay, is far from final and will ignite a legislative and lobbying fight as Democrats, business groups and other special interests tear into the text ahead of a Republican sprint to get the legislation passed and to President Trump’s desk by Christmas.

The bill keeps a top rate of 39.6 percent for the highest-earners and roughly doubles the standard deduction for middle class families. It expands the child tax credit to $1,600 from $1,000 and will not make any changes to the 401(k) plans. It does propose changes to the popular mortgage interest deduction. Under the Republican plan, existing homeowners can keep their mortgage interest deduction but future purchases will be capped at $500,000. The bill cuts the corporate tax rate to 20 percent, from 35 percent.

According to the talking points, the bill “makes no changes to the popular retirement savings options that Americans have today — including 401(k)’s and Individual Retirement Accounts, or I.R.A.s. Americans will be able to continuing making both traditional, pretax contributions and ‘Roth’ contributions in the way that works best for them.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/tax-plan-republicans.html

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AJT

(5,240 posts)
2. Still not addressing the deficit, they will use that to gut
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:24 AM
Nov 2017

and privatize government spending next year.....evil baby steps.....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
11. Yes, it does:
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:08 PM
Nov 2017
The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act would lower the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent and collapse the seven tax brackets paid by families and individuals down to four. It would create giant new benefits for the wealthy by cutting business taxes, eliminating the estate tax, and ending the alternative minimum tax.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/republican-tax-plan-to-lower-cap-on-mortgage-interest-deduction-to-500000-loans/2017/11/02/c0f594d6-bfd5-11e7-8444-a0d4f04b89eb_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_taxreform-1010am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c3e2f4777a66

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
4. In good times, raise taxes and lower deficit that way.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:29 AM
Nov 2017

In bad times, lower taxes and increase spending to stimulate the economy.

The economy does not need stimulating now. Obama left it in good shape.

The stock market has been propped up on hopes of this tax heist for the rich — cutting taxes for corporations and eliminating Alternative Minimum Tax AMT for the 1%.

There will be no trickle down. There never is.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
6. Ask anyone in Kansas how this worked for us.........
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:37 AM
Nov 2017

Brokeback did Trump better--ZERO % tax rate for corporations and a meaningless tax cut of about 0.02% for the middle class. Then we were hit with TWO sales tax increase to prop up that 0% tax rate on Corporations.

Now we have a budget shortfall of $900 million and programs GUTTED to the max,school funding that's pathetic,road construction at a stand still.

This SHAM never created a job anywhere,it did create a shit load of NEW corporations as lawyers and others that had a partnerships spent $50 bucks or so to create an LLC and avoided Kansas income tax payments for FOUR years.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
8. Lets put this complete context-----Pass Through's for LLCs screw the middle class & working poor
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:41 AM
Nov 2017

"Pass Through Taxation".

"Partnerships and sole proprietorships are considered pass through tax entities, meaning the money these companies earn is taxed only once. Each owner reports his share of the profits on his personal tax return, and the money is taxed only at the individual owner's personal income tax rate."

These "pass Through's" will screw the middle class and the working poor,, someone has to pay for the lack of revenue going into the government that isn't there with this tax plan and the "pass through's", this tax "plan" is BS.

If I have a $15,000 dollars a year property and state tax, it is capped at $10,000, the $5,000 goes to the 1% its is that simple with the "pass through's"

This is f*cking trickle down economics 101 being implemented by Ayn Rand (Eddie Munster) and this character from Texas ,Brady


https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/reports/2017/06/13/434054/middle-class-working-families-lose-trump-tax-plan/


Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
9. The 28% and 33% brackets will be history if passed--thats a tax INCREASE....
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:46 AM
Nov 2017

All those taxpayers from about 92k thru 416K will get them a big ole' Ronnie Reagan tax INCREASE as Trump does the same as Saint Ronnie and eliminates tax brackets.

I got that Reagan treatment myself all those years ago and my tax rate jumped about 3%-4% if I recall.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
10. Do Retrumplicans get to write NY Times
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 03:32 PM
Nov 2017

headlines too?

Does it "really" cut taxes on the "Middle Class", or is the Times just playing stenographer for Retrumplican talking points?

Inquiring minds would like to know, especially because we now know that all the wing-nut hate radio talkers, Russian-backed Alt Right Websites, and my drunk Uncle will just repeat a million times; "see, even the 'lib-rul', 'commminist' NY Times says it's a middle class tax cut"

Doesn't matter that it's complete bullshit...once the Times gives it a fucking headline like that, it's all over the Russian Troll sites.

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