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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:10 PM Nov 2017

Trump Wants to Save Big Coal with $11 Billion Annual Bailout

Source: Newsweek Magazine



BY NICOLE GOODKIND ON 11/2/17 AT 3:31 PM

The Trump administration wants to force electricity customers to pay for a $10.6-billion annual bailout of the failing coal and nuclear industries through surcharges on their monthly energy bills.

The quietly announced proposal would require ratepayers to fully underwrite a new mandate that coal and nuclear plants hold a minimum of 90-days' worth of fuel on-site under the false premise of providing security from power outages. But critics say the subsidy is just a massive government-mandated transfer of wealth from consumers to coal and nuclear companies.

"This is like changing the energy system from capitalism to communism—and the U.S. government want to do it within the next two weeks," said Michael Krancer, principal at energy policy firm Silent Majority Strategies.

The Department of Energy says the fuel stockpiles are necessary to prevent power outages “in times of supply stress such as recent natural disasters.” But only 0.00007% of all major power disruptions over the past five years were due to fuel supply problems, John Larsen, a power sector researcher for the Rhodium Group, told Newsweek.

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-coal-taxpayers-energy-nuclear-695346

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Trump Wants to Save Big Coal with $11 Billion Annual Bailout (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Effectively a tax increase, with the money going straight to GOP donors. Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #1
Whatever happened to the government Ray Bruns Nov 2017 #2
Does the annual bailout go nation-wide or is only for the coal states. The coal states iluvtennis Nov 2017 #3
It's for all Americans atreides1 Nov 2017 #8
The "Reasoning" Makes No Sense DallasNE Nov 2017 #4
The US imports coal to xxqqqzme Nov 2017 #7
It is bathed in sunlight, but has very little solar electricity generation n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #12
How would this help nuclear energy? dbackjon Nov 2017 #5
It doesn't atreides1 Nov 2017 #10
Trump crime family raping America n/t left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #6
Is this $10 Billion hit on the American ppl reflected in the GOP Tax "Reform" - I bet not iluvtennis Nov 2017 #9
I wrote my congress person Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #11
Solar farms should demand money from the pot too NickB79 Nov 2017 #13
agree bluestarone Nov 2017 #17
RepubliCONs always say they don't choose winners and losers in the economy. CON. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #14
That's $90 per year per taxpayer forced handout to dirty coal & sketchy nuclear. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #15
Just think what that 11 billion could be used for. YOHABLO Nov 2017 #16
Combine This With a Cut to Tax Credit for Electric Cars... TomCADem Nov 2017 #18
So ... area51 Nov 2017 #19
This total bullshit. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #20
pResident Stupid & Greedy (R) Achilleaze Nov 2017 #21

Ray Bruns

(4,098 posts)
2. Whatever happened to the government
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:14 PM
Nov 2017

not picking winners and losers? Oh, yeah. That was when the black guy was in the oval office.

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
3. Does the annual bailout go nation-wide or is only for the coal states. The coal states
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:21 PM
Nov 2017

voted for him, let them pay for the bailout...I should not be be unfairly disadvantaged because ppl don't want to admit the coal industry is a nearly dead industry and it's time to retrain.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
8. It's for all Americans
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:43 PM
Nov 2017

Because we should all bail out the dying coal industry, to let Trump keep a promise that he made!!!

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
4. The "Reasoning" Makes No Sense
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:36 PM
Nov 2017

Lack of fuel stockpiles is not the issue causing P.R. to have 85% of the people to still not have power so having a 90 day stockpile would not impact the availability of power. I also suspect that most coal fired power plants lack the physical property to store this extra coal. Lastly, this surcharge for electricity customers would apply to renewable energy like wind and solar too. Lose-lose-lose.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
10. It doesn't
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:49 PM
Nov 2017

It helps Murray Energy, which if it should go bankrupt would be holding the bag for $11 billion dollars in pension and other payments!

Seems a little strange that the bailout comes up to $10.6 billion...and from the looks of things it's only the coal industry that will be gaining this windfall at taxpayer expense!

All this so Trump can keep a promise he no right to make!!!

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
13. Solar farms should demand money from the pot too
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 06:05 PM
Nov 2017

"A 90 day fuel reserve? Hell, we got a billion YEAR reserve up there (points to the sky)."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
15. That's $90 per year per taxpayer forced handout to dirty coal & sketchy nuclear.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 06:51 PM
Nov 2017

$11,000,000,000 divided by 122 million tax payers.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
18. Combine This With a Cut to Tax Credit for Electric Cars...
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:20 PM
Nov 2017

...and soon you get a tax credit for rolling coal.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
20. This total bullshit.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:05 AM
Nov 2017

Anyone that's worked in coal-fired plants knows they keep massive reserves on-site in piles and bunkers. I've never heard of a plant running out of coal. Not experienced in the field, but I'm sure nukes keep plenty of reserve fuel rods around, too.

Many plants may not even have the storage space for a 90-day reserve.

It also does not make sense it would be an annual cost because once the extra reserve is on-site, there's little or no extra cost thereafter. It's like keeping an extra package of toilet paper in the house.

What the hell is wrong with these people?


Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
21. pResident Stupid & Greedy (R)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:21 AM
Nov 2017

He* is a complete f*cking embodiment of degenerate "republican family values."


* Comrade Casino, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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