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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:34 PM Nov 2017

Sources: McMaster Mocked Trump's Intelligence In a Private Dinner

Source: BuzzFeed News



At dinner at a lobbying hotspot with a powerful tech CEO, the national security advisor said the president has the intelligence of a “kindergartner,” according to sources. Oracle, Administration deny comments.

Posted on November 20, 2017, at 12:05 p.m.

Joseph Bernstein
BuzzFeed News Reporter

National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster mocked President Trump’s intelligence at a private dinner with a powerful tech CEO, according to five sources with knowledge of the conversation.

Over a July dinner with Oracle CEO Safra Catz — who has been mentioned as a candidate for several potential administration jobs — McMaster bluntly trashed his boss, said the sources, four of whom told BuzzFeed News they heard about the exchange directly from Catz. The top national security official dismissed the president variously as an “idiot” and a “dope” with the intelligence of a “kindergartner,” the sources said.

A sixth source who was not familiar with the details of the dinner told BuzzFeed News that McMaster had made similarly derogatory comments about Trump’s intelligence to him in private, including that the president lacked the necessary brainpower to understand the matters before the National Security Council.

Both Oracle and the Trump administration heatedly denied the comments that Catz later recounted. “Actual participants in the dinner deny that General McMaster made any of the comments attributed to him by anonymous sources. Those false comments represent the diametric opposite of General McMaster's actual views,” said Michael Anton, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/sources-mcmaster-mocked-trumps-intelligence-in-a-private?utm_term=.jd6BOOW8j&bftwnews#.ph9KeeM7R

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Sources: McMaster Mocked Trump's Intelligence In a Private Dinner (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
OMG. he said the obvious JI7 Nov 2017 #1
Telling the truth Scarsdale Nov 2017 #5
That Trump has only the intelligence of a child under 5 is obvious to me because I used to Sophia4 Nov 2017 #22
WOWEEEE! ... an idiot and a dope with the intelligence of a kindergartner, ..... L. Coyote Nov 2017 #2
'The president has the intelligence of a kindergartner, according to sources.' sandensea Nov 2017 #3
Or as these episodes are referred to in the WH. "Monday morning". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #8
Cheeto's Mar-a-Lago golf outings must be a real vacation for the White House staff. sandensea Nov 2017 #15
Absolutely wonderful! Poor Pence. Thank you, sandensea. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #11
Glad you liked it, Judi. I bet Pence watches this once a week for comic relief. sandensea Nov 2017 #14
That is so close to home for him that I I barely see the satire of it. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #26
I'm sure the White House staff would wholeheartedly agree with you on that. sandensea Nov 2017 #28
Hilarious! klook Nov 2017 #31
Hey, Comrade Casino* - are you going to let him say that about you? Achilleaze Nov 2017 #4
Here's some idea of how.............. MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #6
Guideline #1. Do not elect or appoint idiots and/or spies to sensitive positions. Marcuse Nov 2017 #7
that is one odd thing about the Russia narrative. The only thing they could expect to get out of it yurbud Nov 2017 #25
They wanted more, and are getting it. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #29
I oppose continue Cheney's hitlist. If the issue is money, trade, oil, etc, none of those things yurbud Nov 2017 #33
event occurred in july. rumours nt msongs Nov 2017 #9
To be honest atreides1 Nov 2017 #10
Trump is the poster child for the DunningKruger effect (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2017 #12
So true, so true. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #27
Adult day care, moron, kindergarten intelligence, idiot, dope, doltard. Historic NY Nov 2017 #13
Insulting Kindergartners everywhere... Lucca2 Nov 2017 #16
Not news to anyone paying attention but is news to his voters who are still not paying any attention FreeStateDemocrat Nov 2017 #17
Trump is an idiot Gothmog Nov 2017 #18
I think that's why Melania always has that mortified look on her face... yurbud Nov 2017 #24
"intelligence of a kindergartner. What? are we in church? Thor_MN Nov 2017 #19
This. n/t EarthFirst Nov 2017 #20
I wish someone would put this in any articles of impeachment yurbud Nov 2017 #21
Get it on fox morning show or morning joe so he sees it! docgee Nov 2017 #23
spot on General. spot on!!! riversedge Nov 2017 #30
Josh Marshall thinks its the revenge of Cohen-Watnick DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #32
It was probably said in a private conversation FakeNoose Nov 2017 #34
Doubt it DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #35

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. Telling the truth
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:45 PM
Nov 2017

is not allowed in this mis-administration. Lie, lie lie is all they recommend. What bothers me is that so many intelligent people will cow-tow to this orange assh**e, endangering this country.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
22. That Trump has only the intelligence of a child under 5 is obvious to me because I used to
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 04:10 PM
Nov 2017

work with children under 5 and raised my own children.

He simply has not reached the mental age at which a child learns to have empathy and compassion for others. His vocabulary is repetitive and at about the level of a pre-school, pre-literate child.

So be it.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
2. WOWEEEE! ... an idiot and a dope with the intelligence of a kindergartner, .....
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:42 PM
Nov 2017

Certainly brings new meaning to NSA intelligence report.


sandensea

(21,648 posts)
3. 'The president has the intelligence of a kindergartner, according to sources.'
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:42 PM
Nov 2017

I'd say that's about right.

sandensea

(21,648 posts)
15. Cheeto's Mar-a-Lago golf outings must be a real vacation for the White House staff.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:29 PM
Nov 2017

They must secretly be praying for impeachment, more than any Democrat.

sandensea

(21,648 posts)
14. Glad you liked it, Judi. I bet Pence watches this once a week for comic relief.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:27 PM
Nov 2017

While his wife measures the White House drapes, of course.

They mentioned the Argentine president's visit, which took place on April 27. Amazing how Trump stabbed Macri in the back with the 72% biodiesel tariff (Argentina's largest export to the U.S.), given that they've been personal friends since at least 1985.

With friends like Trump...

sandensea

(21,648 posts)
28. I'm sure the White House staff would wholeheartedly agree with you on that.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 04:47 PM
Nov 2017

They must be hoping for impeachment even more fervently than we are (I'm not personally; but that's just me).

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. Hey, Comrade Casino* - are you going to let him say that about you?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:43 PM
Nov 2017

Time for another of your infamous republican poo flings.


* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
25. that is one odd thing about the Russia narrative. The only thing they could expect to get out of it
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 04:27 PM
Nov 2017

is a period of chaos here.

Depending on Trump to do anything more complex that compliment himself and not shit his pants is a crap shoot.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
29. They wanted more, and are getting it.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 05:03 PM
Nov 2017

The Russian sanctions caused Putin/Russia to lose $ in the billions. Trump's job was to kill the sanctions.
Congress voted for them, but Trump refused to sign the bill, AND Tillerson closed the office in the State Dept, that implements sanctions.

Russia/Syria getting together, with no interference from USA.
Syria was one of the ME countries on Cheney's hit list, way back when he was in power.
We did not topple Syria, not for lack of trying.

NOW....

With Islamic State crushed and the democratic opposition to Assad also in military retreat, the three key regional powers – Russia, Iran and Turkey – will meet in the Russian Black Sea resort of Sochi on Wednesday to discuss how to wind down hostilities and draw up a political settlement.

Russia, which holds a military advantage in Syria, appears to want to bypass the UN process and focus on a solution drawn up with the other regional guarantors, Iran and Turkey.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/20/syria-parallel-peace-talks-iran-russia-turkey-sochi

Money, trade, oil/gas, and pipelines are what is at stake in the ME, and Russia is very active there now.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
33. I oppose continue Cheney's hitlist. If the issue is money, trade, oil, etc, none of those things
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 04:57 PM
Nov 2017

warrant the current level of hostility from our government, especially since any advantage gained by "defeating" Russia will be passed on to average Americans.

Lucca2

(63 posts)
16. Insulting Kindergartners everywhere...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:52 PM
Nov 2017

5 year olds are curious, compassionate and eager to learn. Drumpf is a dull, ignorant, cruel, and selfish creep.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
17. Not news to anyone paying attention but is news to his voters who are still not paying any attention
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 03:11 PM
Nov 2017

One his voters actually posted this on his Facebook page, so forget about reaching out to these people, they are willfully ignorant:

"I post things here as my belief. I do not care what you believe. If you don't like it, go away or be blocked. Pretty simple. I am too old to argue over facts or truth. Yes I am perfect and know everything. So do not try to help me as you will only regret it."

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. I think that's why Melania always has that mortified look on her face...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 04:25 PM
Nov 2017

"Jesus, why didn't the human traffickers sell to sheik or a drug dealer or ANYONE with half a brain?!"

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
21. I wish someone would put this in any articles of impeachment
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 03:58 PM
Nov 2017

that he lacks the intelligence, education, temperament, and maturity the job requires.

Jesus, he makes W look like FDR.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
32. Josh Marshall thinks its the revenge of Cohen-Watnick
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:07 AM
Nov 2017

TPM has an editor's blog post up about this story. Marshall reports Cohen-Watnick, ally of Devin Nunes and Flynn, and who McMaster spent months trying to boot off the NSC is behind the story. Apparently after McMaster finally managed to fire him, Cohen-Watnick landed at Oracle's lobbying opeartion in DC. It just so happens that this incident took place in the very same building where Cohen-Watnick now works.

In my experience most generals are smart, savvy and "political" enough to keep their views to themselves except around their very closest confidants. I'd have doubts McMaster used such language to describe Trump regardless.

FakeNoose

(32,691 posts)
34. It was probably said in a private conversation
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:30 AM
Nov 2017

Of course McMaster is forced to deny the rumor now, but does anyone doubt he said it? I don't, we've all said the same or worse about Cheeto. Generals don't usually make political comments for the media anyway, so my guess is somebody repeated a private conversation.

The DC swamp is so full of snakes that it could be anybody, even Flynn. Where is Flynn anyway? I thought his indictment was coming up.



DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
35. Doubt it
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:56 AM
Nov 2017

McMaster didn't get 3 stars by being tactless. I seriously doubt he'd have said anything like this to anyone he didn't know very well and trust.

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