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TexasTowelie

(112,249 posts)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 08:39 PM Nov 2017

Attorneys filing Vegas shooting lawsuits with 450 plaintiffs

Source: AP

Attorneys who filed one of the first lawsuits after the Oct. 1 mass shooting that killed 58 concert-goers and left hundreds injured on the Las Vegas Strip filed four new negligence cases Monday on behalf of more than 450 victims.

This time, however, Houston-based lawyers Chad Pinkerton and Mo Aziz filed the cases in Los Angeles against companies including MGM Resorts International, the corporate owner of both the Mandalay Bay resort and the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert venue.

Pinkerton said the intent was to get the cases before a jury less likely to be influenced by the size and clout of a casino company that is both an active political contributor in Nevada and the largest employer in the state.

"Los Angeles is a better venue for fairness for our clients," Pinkerton said in a telephone interview ahead of a news conference announcing the filing of two wrongful death lawsuits, a third case stemming from a woman's head wound and a fourth on behalf of 450 people claiming injuries in the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/attorneys-filing-vegas-shooting-lawsuits-450-plaintiffs-51284750

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Attorneys filing Vegas shooting lawsuits with 450 plaintiffs (Original Post) TexasTowelie Nov 2017 OP
Serious question: what grounds do they have for suing the hotel? jmowreader Nov 2017 #1
Deep pockets customerserviceguy Nov 2017 #9
Probably for negligence in not preventing the shooter from getting all those weapons into the hotel. brush Nov 2017 #10
Same reason kwalter66 Nov 2017 #11
The contents of your suitcase are now the business of the hotel? jmowreader Nov 2017 #12
What were the hotels' policies that were in place before the shootings that hold them BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #2
Seems to me their claims should be against the shooter's estate TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #3
Relatively speaking, the POS doesn't have very deep pockets Lurks Often Nov 2017 #7
I'm not sure if it's their intention Libloom Nov 2017 #4
Where's the standing? MrScorpio Nov 2017 #5
Suing the wrong people. paleotn Nov 2017 #6
Agreed: bump stocks RainCaster Nov 2017 #8

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. Deep pockets
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:32 AM
Nov 2017

would be my guess. I see a lot of billboards with the message (essentially): "Did something bad happen to you? Well, let's SUE somebody!"

This will lead to legal counsel for high-rise hotels to strongly suggest to their clients that guests be screened before being let up to their rooms.

brush

(53,787 posts)
10. Probably for negligence in not preventing the shooter from getting all those weapons into the hotel.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:52 AM
Nov 2017
 

kwalter66

(80 posts)
11. Same reason
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 02:37 PM
Nov 2017

one would have if you slip on the hotel marble floor and crack your head open. Or the coffee maker in your room explodes and burns you, or if you find metal shaving in the pudding at the buffet, or if a chandelier falls and knocks you out, or if one of the other guests pulls out 15 guns from inside his suite, busts out the hotel suite window, starts shooting and wounds or kills you. It's why business has to carry liability insurance. Cause a shooter is definitely a liability. It is a reasonable expectation to be safe when engaged in doing business with a company that serves the public. I'll bet money those exact words are in the lawsuit. MGM owns the Mandalay Bay as well as the music festival. The liability lies with them.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
12. The contents of your suitcase are now the business of the hotel?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 03:36 PM
Nov 2017

An AR-15 has two major groups, an Upper Receiver and a Lower Receiver. You push two pins out, lift the upper off, and you have a weapon that'll easily fit in a regular-size suitcase. A big spinner case will hold at least five of them, and no one would raise an eyebrow if someone showed up at a hotel with two big spinners and two hanging bags.

Is the hotel expected to require every guest to open all their suitcases? Since someone shooting up the courtyard in front of the hotel is not a common occurrence, such an inspection would uncover lots of sex toys, medicines to treat diseases people are trying to keep private, confidential business documents and other non-firearm things.

And is the hotel expected to install video cameras in all rooms to make sure no one is taking guns out of their suitcases? Yeah, there's no danger of unscrupulous security guards watching the guests have sex, now is there?

One of these things is not like the other. A hotel can put down non-slip runners on its marble floors, buy non-exploding coffee pots and metal-free pudding and hang the chandelier properly...but do you really want some guy who makes nine bucks an hour to find a year's worth of The Advocate while he's pawing through your suitcase?

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
2. What were the hotels' policies that were in place before the shootings that hold them
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 08:55 PM
Nov 2017

partially responsible? What are "the corporate and hotels' weapon possessions policies already in place and the implemented recent safety recommendations" that weren't enforced?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
7. Relatively speaking, the POS doesn't have very deep pockets
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:20 PM
Nov 2017

How far will maybe 2-3 million go after the attorneys get their cut when spread amongst all the victims?

The attorneys are hoping for billions from the hotel, concert promoters and concert venue.

Personally I don't expect the case to succeed unless they can somehow prove negligence on the part of the hotel, concert promoters and concert venue.

Libloom

(31 posts)
4. I'm not sure if it's their intention
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:06 PM
Nov 2017

But maybe if businesses are liable for the safety of their patrons in these types of events, the businesses will be less likely to support the NRA or lenient state gun laws.

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
8. Agreed: bump stocks
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:44 PM
Nov 2017

Really, it's the manufacturer of that assault rifle who is liable, but right now they get a free pass thanks to the NRA.

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