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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 07:41 PM Nov 2017

Ethics lawyer: Conyers summoned me to his office while wearing just underwear

Source: The Hill




BY JOHN BOWDEN - 11/22/17 06:26 PM EST

A high-profile ethics lawyer based in Washington, D.C., says Rep. John Conyers Jr. summoned her to his office where the Michigan Democrat was in his underwear during her time as minority counsel for the House Judiciary Committee.

Melanie Sloan, who formerly headed Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and worked for Conyers from 1995 to 1998, told The Washington Post on Wednesday that Conyers asked her to come to his Rayburn Building office at one point, where she found him in his underwear.

“I was pretty taken aback to see my boss half-dressed,” she said. “I turned on my heel and I left.”

Sloan added that Conyers' behavior toward her was inappropriate and abusive, but she told the Post that she didn't believe she was sexually harassed by him.



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/361631-ethics-lawyer-conyers-summoned-me-to-his-office-while-wearing-just-underwear

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Ethics lawyer: Conyers summoned me to his office while wearing just underwear (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Why don't these women SAY anything? Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #1
She said she turned and left JI7 Nov 2017 #4
I know. She didn't say anything. ???? nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #7
I agree. Polly Hennessey Nov 2017 #5
Not Taking These Guys To Task When This Happens &..... global1 Nov 2017 #6
I think so. Not saying anything at all just seems odd to me. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #9
Different times, could have ended the women's careers madville Nov 2017 #12
Look at the career she had after she left his office Exultant Democracy Nov 2017 #17
Maybe. But she wasn't dependent on him for her career. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #18
what the HELL renate Nov 2017 #2
I know. Each time I hear something about someone I respected, I hope it's not true, but turns out Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #11
Remember this - DURHAM D Nov 2017 #3
The voters saidsimplesimon Nov 2017 #8
Underwear? That's Roy Moore stuff. Lucky Joe Barton not there. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #10
Before I left I would point and hysterically laugh, point, and say Doreen Nov 2017 #13
Why would he be in his underwear when anyone else could also have walked in? blueinredohio Nov 2017 #14
Can people just walk into Conyers' office? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2017 #15
+1 for door buzzard. nt DLevine Nov 2017 #16

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
1. Why don't these women SAY anything?
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 07:48 PM
Nov 2017

Like Halperin. She just sat there while he masturbated behind his desk while speaking to her. And she didn't SAY anything? WTH? I don't get that. If you're a teenager, maybe. But a grown woman? It's not her fault, but geez...I think I'd say something, if only to say "What's wrong with you? I'm leaving."

Polly Hennessey

(6,799 posts)
5. I agree.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 07:58 PM
Nov 2017

What do they do just act as though nothing is amiss. I’m sitting here on Thanksgiving Eve 2017 laughing my head off. In my entire life I have never seen any man that I work with wandering around in his underwear. Even my husband didn’t wander around in his underwear. Maybe it’s an east coast thing.

global1

(25,253 posts)
6. Not Taking These Guys To Task When This Happens &.....
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 07:59 PM
Nov 2017

not chastising them and just leaving without telling anyone what happened just embolden these guys and sends them a message that they just got away with something. Them thinking they got away with it gives them the balls to do it again. This is how they become serial harrassers.

Women need to - when something like this happens - immediately say 'no' - call them on their behavior - and report the happening right away.

Again when they don't call them on their behavoir - these guys will just try this again with some other unsuspecting woman.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. I think so. Not saying anything at all just seems odd to me.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:13 PM
Nov 2017

I understand they're shocked. I understand if they're really young and have not had exposure (pardon the pun) to a lot of worldly things. I understand not saying anything under those circumstances. Or being a low level employee who is confronted with this by a big dog at the office. You might lose your job if you say anything.

But a grown professional woman just sitting there chatting with Halperin while she's sure he's masturbating? He probably thought SHE was getting off on that, or she would've said something. And just walking away with Conyers in his undies? Or not saying anything to Charlie Rose when he walks out naked with his mini-mouse and all dangling?

madville

(7,412 posts)
12. Different times, could have ended the women's careers
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:16 PM
Nov 2017

Remember this was the same timeframe that Bill Clinton was in all his troubles. Democrats were busy explaining away the fact that the President was receiving oral sex in the Whitehouse, at the workplace, from one of his employees. If Lewinsky had turned him down would it be much different than this?

There are people on this very board defending some of these antics just because the accused is on the same political team. Kick the perverts out and replace them with other Democrats! I'm not THAT personally loyal to any of these people that they should be given a pass on any of this stuff.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
17. Look at the career she had after she left his office
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 02:32 PM
Nov 2017

Hard to say for sure, but I don’t think it’s crazy to think that her making an issue out of it would have derailed the fast track she was on.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. Maybe. But she wasn't dependent on him for her career.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 09:53 PM
Nov 2017

He was the chairman of some committee, but she was a pro in her own right not related to him in any way.

renate

(13,776 posts)
2. what the HELL
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 07:48 PM
Nov 2017

I'm just so disappointed and disgusted. It's disappointing to hear this about anybody I would have assumed better of, but especially upsetting to hear this kind of thing about someone I actively respected.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. I know. Each time I hear something about someone I respected, I hope it's not true, but turns out
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:15 PM
Nov 2017

but it turns out to be true (except Franken...I still hold that that was not harassment or groping or molestation).

I had NO IDEA this issue was this widespread. This has been going on all around me for decades, I guess, and I never suspected, except in the odd case we'd hear about. Women didn't tell me, either.

Mind you, I had a few things happen. But nothing like what I'm reading about.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
13. Before I left I would point and hysterically laugh, point, and say
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:05 PM
Nov 2017

you want to show me that? I would then report it....to everybody including the law. I would do this to any man ( woman ) who did that to me.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
14. Why would he be in his underwear when anyone else could also have walked in?
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:22 PM
Nov 2017

Would he really take that chance?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
15. Can people just walk into Conyers' office?
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 12:02 PM
Nov 2017

Doesn't he have "outer" offices staffed by receptionist etc? Wouldn't the receptionist have to use the door buzzard to let the door be opened?

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