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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:53 AM Nov 2017

UPDATED 2X: McCain: Trump doesn't have any 'principles and beliefs'

Last edited Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:23 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: The Hill

BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 11/27/17 08:35 AM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) ripped President Trump in an interview, saying he doesn't think the president has "principles and beliefs."

I dont agree with the way hes conducting his presidency, obviously, McCain said during an interview with Esquire.

Hes an individual that unfortunately is not anchored by a set of principles. I think hes a person who takes advantage of situations." McCain said Trump was "successful" as a builder and an entrepreneur. "But I dont think he has the fundamental underpinnings of principles and beliefs, he said.

He added: I dont think there was any doubt about his views toward me. But Im a loyal Republican.



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/361923-mccain-trump-doesnt-have-any-principles-and-beliefs



UPDATE 1:

McCain: Trumps Firing Of Comey A Comedy Of Errors


By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published NOVEMBER 27, 2017 10:06 AM

When President Donald Trump decided to fire James Comey as FBI director in the midst of the Russia probe, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was stumped.

He told Esquire in an interview conducted in May and published on Sunday that he found Trumps decision hard to comprehend. The senator said that the way the firing was handled was also bizarre. Trump sent a staffer to hand deliver a letter to the FBI informing Comey that he was fired, but Comey was not in his office. Comey first learned the news when he saw it on a television in the background while he was giving a speech.

Its just a comedy of errors, McCain told Esquire.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-trump-comey-firing-comedy-of-errors

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UPDATE 2:

McCain on Clinton's memoir: 'What’s the f---ing point?'


BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 11/27/17 09:51 AM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in a new interview criticized former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for writing her memoir so soon after the 2016 election.

“What’s the f---ing point? Keep the fight up?” McCain asked in an interview with Esquire.

“History will judge that campaign, and it’s always a period of time before they do. You’ve got to move on. This is Hillary’s problem right now: She doesn’t have anything to do.”

Clinton published her memoir, “What Happened,” in September, less than a year after her surprise loss to President Trump.

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UPDATED 2X: McCain: Trump doesn't have any 'principles and beliefs' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
republican Comrade Casino* is an unprincipled traitor-criminal Achilleaze Nov 2017 #1
Neither do a lot of the Republicans either treestar Nov 2017 #2
Trump is devoid of morals, brains and empathy. Pepsidog Nov 2017 #3
No redeeming qualities. In three words you summed up Trump perfectly! FM123 Nov 2017 #5
The "good father" thing is bullshit, too. Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #25
On second thought, you are correct, Dotard is 100% creep with no redeeming qualities. Pepsidog Nov 2017 #31
Trump does have strong beliefs: He is the most important person in the world Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #4
Yup, he dreams of himself and Putin ruling the world njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #13
This is true, not at all hyperbole. Trump wants to be rich like Putin Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #14
McCain could blow Trumps head off Submariner Nov 2017 #6
And yet McCain is voting the the tax reform Iliyah Nov 2017 #7
Sadly, BOTH of those are consistent with McCain's conservative principles karynnj Nov 2017 #9
He has principals when it is about him and the 2 or 3 actual events in his life. pangaia Nov 2017 #11
He is a very complicated person karynnj Nov 2017 #21
"GOP'ers speak with fork tongue." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #26
well put diva77 Nov 2017 #36
Not only is McCain a liar... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #40
+1 Hugin Dec 2017 #45
Trump has a predominant principle: nihilism. no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #8
And that IMO wasn't even his idea. He doesn't have any. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #24
Yeah, John. Loyal republican. Fuck that shit... pangaia Nov 2017 #10
And yet you vote with him, party above country. Maeve Nov 2017 #12
+1000 True_Blue Dec 2017 #46
Principles!! Said the man.... Grins Nov 2017 #15
Quote from that Esquire article... Grins Nov 2017 #16
McCain is hardly Scarsdale Nov 2017 #17
Here's herr drumpf's guiding principle. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #18
Well Johnnie......... turbinetree Nov 2017 #19
That's not true Renew Deal Nov 2017 #20
McCain is correct as to trump Gothmog Nov 2017 #22
Couple of observations matt819 Nov 2017 #23
WEAK WORDS MCCAIN!-Republicans ignored McCain for years & now they 'hope' he's not "the 1%" Sunlei Nov 2017 #27
McCain on Clinton's memoir: 'Whats the f---ing point?' -- Uh Huh Rollo Nov 2017 #28
I read the Headline as "McCain, Trump don't have any principles and beliefs" maxrandb Nov 2017 #29
A loyal Republican???? Perseus Nov 2017 #30
tRump's ONE Principle. Wolf Frankula Nov 2017 #32
Based on my observations of BlueMTexpat Nov 2017 #33
Now ask McCain whether the GOP should "move on" from Trump. n/t Orsino Nov 2017 #34
Trump is a mess! UCmeNdc Nov 2017 #35
What an asshole McShame is dicksmc3 Nov 2017 #37
Trumps two main beliefs, How much can I make $$$ and Being Racist. sarcasmo Nov 2017 #38
drumpf is rapidly declining into a state of utter psychological incapacitation. Linda Ed Nov 2017 #39
Money for nothin' and his taxes free. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #41
Fu McCain you have no principles either kimbutgar Dec 2017 #42
Tell me about all your beliefs and principals----after you voted for that lousy tax bill Doitnow Dec 2017 #43
Said one pile of shit about the other pile of shit - You smell like shit! Solly Mack Dec 2017 #44
mccain doesn't have any 'principles and beliefs' either. nt elmac Dec 2017 #47

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. republican Comrade Casino* is an unprincipled traitor-criminal
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:57 AM
Nov 2017

...as every person of honor and discernment realized long ago.


* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
3. Trump is devoid of morals, brains and empathy.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:06 AM
Nov 2017

Simply put, Trump is just an awful human being with no redeeeming qualities. I can usually find something good to say about everyone, but with Trump there is nothing good about him. Some say he is a good father, but with the exception of Baron and Ivanka, I believe he would throw the rest of his family under the bus to save his own skin.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. The "good father" thing is bullshit, too.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:21 PM
Nov 2017

I'll leave it to you to Google the firsthand tales of how he treated Don Jr. in college. And he spends zero time with Barron and has never had any relationship with Tiffany. His three oldest kids are just as cretinous as he is.

I wish Hillary had never said that at the debate. It was patently false. She should have said something like, "He has a marvelous singing voice". He wouldn't have denied that.

Like you, I can ALWAYS find something good to say about everyone. I can even come up with a few positives regarding the Shrub and Ronald Reagan. But when it comes to Trump, I got absolutely nothin'.

Irish_Dem

(47,195 posts)
4. Trump does have strong beliefs: He is the most important person in the world
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:10 AM
Nov 2017

and he wants to be the richest one too.

Irish_Dem

(47,195 posts)
14. This is true, not at all hyperbole. Trump wants to be rich like Putin
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:49 AM
Nov 2017

who is worth $600 billion, and wants to rule the world with him.

I think that is the promise Putin made to him, and a part of what drives
Trump to sell out the US.

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
6. McCain could blow Trumps head off
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:16 AM
Nov 2017

in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it.

The majority would rally to McCain’s continued defense of the nation and give him a pass.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. And yet McCain is voting the the tax reform
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:18 AM
Nov 2017

and seems like he doesn't care about the fate of CHIP.

GOPers speak with fork tongue

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
9. Sadly, BOTH of those are consistent with McCain's conservative principles
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:28 AM
Nov 2017

In his case, it is not that McCain has no principles or that he does not often live up to them, it is that many of his principles are completely the opposite of the ones we have.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
21. He is a very complicated person
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:48 AM
Nov 2017

ie: He greatly cares about honor ... but he was one of the Keating 5.

Where he was a "maverick" was on things like Mccain/Feingold, which was partly motivated by the need to "atone" for his role in Keating 5. Before he lost to Obama, he was also good on climate change and immigration (he was Kennedy's cosponsor in 2005). On both of those issues, he likely changed due to fear of being primaried once the tea party gained power in the party - so he was not a profile in courage on these issues as he abandoned them when he thought there would be a high political cost.

However, he consistently believed in small government - meaning he was unlikely to favor anything that expands the role of government - as ACA did. Note that anti-corruption, his version of a climate bill, and immigration are not in conflict with that principle.

LakeArenal

(28,831 posts)
40. Not only is McCain a liar...
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:47 AM
Dec 2017

He's a hypocrite. He wants everyone to think he's a man of the people. But he's a money greedy corporate Republican. I get sick of the hero crap. That may have been then, but it isn't like that now. He and his thugs are gutting the world for money. MCCain is right there, supporting and voting with them. That is no hero.

His horrible daughter is worse, and her husband is WORSER! (red-neck spellin'). She proudly proclaims her husband is more conservative (ie, worse) than she is.

no_hypocrisy

(46,150 posts)
8. Trump has a predominant principle: nihilism.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:22 AM
Nov 2017

Cripple then destroy any agency under Executive purview. God help us if he issued an emergency EO, suspending the Constitution because of a national emergency.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
24. And that IMO wasn't even his idea. He doesn't have any.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:04 PM
Nov 2017

It was Bannons. Destroy government agencies and institutions as fast as possible. Cause as much turmoil as possible. And keep ahead of the controversy by committing a new controversy every day.

Grins

(7,222 posts)
15. Principles!! Said the man....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:56 AM
Nov 2017
“(Trump's)...is not anchored by a set of principles. I think he’s a person who takes advantage of situations. ...I don’t think he has the fundamental underpinnings of principles and beliefs.” - Said the man who selected a high-heeled imbecile to be a heartbeat from the presidency.

Grins

(7,222 posts)
16. Quote from that Esquire article...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:58 AM
Nov 2017
“If you have no principles, which more and more members of the Senate don’t, you look askance at someone who does.” - Veteran Republican consultant who worked on both of McCain’s presidential campaigns, John Weaver.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. McCain is hardly
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:17 AM
Nov 2017

in a position to declare another person as having no principles and beliefs. Remember the Keating Five? Remember the first Mrs. McCain who was thrown under the bus when miss moneybags came along? He allowed Palin to rile up the racists, and when asked to stop her said "But then she will turn on ME" So on it went. He has no core beliefs, apart from making himself rich at the expense of everyone else. Vile little "man" He has mined that POW story for too many years. The other POW's did not call him Songbird for no reason. He is upset that he never made it into the WH, yet two bird brains like Dubya and Two Scoops Donnie did.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
19. Well Johnnie.........
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:37 AM
Nov 2017

I have a question on principles and beliefs for you..............do you want to give this psychopathic malignant narcissistic sociopath a "victory" or you going to have this asshole sit behind is big old desk, with those small fucking hands of a sexual predator, sign into law a bill that will force states to eliminate health care and other vital programs for children?

Will you have any principles, that if this traitor is given a continued chance to have constituents in you state and around the country, a lot of them are on Medicare and Social Security benefits that they have paid into for years to protect them from the street corner from having a card board sign, saying I just got fucked because I am a middle class and working poor, can you give anything?

But your a "Loyal Republican" right Johnnie, so your going to fuck everyone because of your fucking principles and beliefs, and have a narcissistic psychopathic asshole sign a law to create death panels, and the creation of third world state of the haves and the have not's........................so in closing Johnnie------------your an enabler of the principle and beliefs of a narcissistic malignant psychopathic traitor, and you also are a narcissistic sociopaths liar of principles and beliefs-----------------you should vote no on the tax bill that millions of your constitutes and millions of people in the middle class will pay




matt819

(10,749 posts)
23. Couple of observations
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:53 PM
Nov 2017

based only on the OP, not the underlying interviews.

Basically, McCain is saying that the buffoon-in-chief is a sociopath. That was clear in 1980, 1990, 2000, 2015, and every day since his said he would run for president. History will not be kind.

Re Clinton - Okay, maybe he has a point. But. . . everyone writes memoirs, about one's life, about parts of one's life. Heck, Senator M, you've done it several times. So give that a rest, hey? As for she doesn't have anything to do, that's BS. First of all, she's speaking out on issues of relevance to women as well as to those of us living in the reality-based universe. And, let's face it, she could walk on water and then turn that water into wine, and it would be considered political grandstanding. So, John, I know you've had a long life, and you're a war hero, but you seem to have lost the ability to know when to STFU.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. WEAK WORDS MCCAIN!-Republicans ignored McCain for years & now they 'hope' he's not "the 1%"
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:42 PM
Nov 2017

Words aren't enough Senator McCain!, your fellow Republicans treat your words like you're a dead man walking.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
28. McCain on Clinton's memoir: 'Whats the f---ing point?' -- Uh Huh
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:48 PM
Nov 2017

I'll say one thing: Hillary is a much better writer than Bill. And her book gives a clear and honest appraisal of what did happen. One may disagree with her take on outside forces, but one can't argue that she hasn't presented her side of the story very well.

Why should she wait? She's got the book out of the way, and now she CAN move on. Perhaps not in an elected or appointed government function, but there likely is plenty she can do with the foundation as well as other things.

And I believe her when she says she's enjoying the opportunity to be with her family, her grandchildren, something that probably wouldn't be as available had she ascended to the presidency.

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
29. I read the Headline as "McCain, Trump don't have any principles and beliefs"
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:50 PM
Nov 2017

I think my use of the comma as punctuation is more accurate than the colon is.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
30. A loyal Republican????
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 03:09 PM
Nov 2017

It just bothers me when people say "I am a loyal Republican", or "I am a loyal Democrat"...What about being loyal to the country?

This party-loyalty thing has to end, there are good republicans and there are good democrats, yes more good democrats, but they all have to be taken into consideration. To be loyal to a party just shows you don't have principles of your own, that you are a follower, that your beliefs are dictated by someone else and you give very little thought to the benefits and consequences of your choices as dictated by the party.

The sheep following blindly...People used to call McCain the "Maverick", by being loyal to a party the definition evaporates.

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
37. What an asshole McShame is
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:37 PM
Nov 2017

Yeah he complains pretty good on principles and beliefs but at the same time he votes to forward the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. Remember the MAVERICK slogan he was given?? Now it should be MAVEPRICK!! He could care less about the beliefs and practices of DJT. Old McShame wants to go out in a blaze and if that vote helps KILL many people due to the lack of Obamacare then so be it...

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
39. drumpf is rapidly declining into a state of utter psychological incapacitation.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 07:56 PM
Nov 2017

drumpf's repetitive whining about "fake news" is just getting tedious. He never actually proves any of his complaints, or even offers examples. Longer this lunatic is in office, the more perilous America's future. If he doesn't start a war with North Korea or Iran, he'll incite white riots here at home. His muddled/stupid brain is too dysfunctional to perform his job and, if special counsel Robert Mueller doesn't take him out of the game, then Congress and any sane members of the administration have to do it.

He is a Loser!! Never in my lifetime has there ever been a president like this,,,and I'm old!

kimbutgar

(21,172 posts)
42. Fu McCain you have no principles either
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:41 PM
Dec 2017

Pot calling the kettle black.

Taking healthcare away from cancer patients you are despicable.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
43. Tell me about all your beliefs and principals----after you voted for that lousy tax bill
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:35 AM
Dec 2017

right along with the rest of the reThugs. Lie, Cheat and Steal. You do that stuff, too. After all, you are a reThug.

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