GOP pros fret over Paul Ryan
Source: Politico
Away from the cameras, and with all the usual assurances that people arent being quoted by name, there is an unmistakable consensus among Republican operatives in Washington: Romney has taken a risk with Ryan that has only a modest chance of going right and a huge chance of going horribly wrong.
In more than three dozen interviews with Republican strategists and campaign operatives old hands and rising next-generation conservatives alike the most common reactions to Ryan ranged from gnawing apprehension to hair-on-fire anger that Romney has practically ceded the election.
I think its a very bold choice. And an exciting and interesting pick. Its going to elevate the campaign into a debate over big ideas. It means Romney-Ryan can run on principles and provide some real direction and vision for the Republican Party. And probably lose. Maybe big, said former President George W. Bush senior adviser Mark McKinnon.
Very not helpful down ballot very, said one top Republican consultant.
This is the day the music died,
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79697.html
Joked another: The most popular phrase in Washington right now is: I love Paul Ryan, but
Freddie
(9,273 posts)He just solidified the Obama win!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Public opinion of him as of today is pretty much a function of how we've successfully been able to define him. The progressive side knows who he is, and the reich-wingers do, too. It's the folks who just don't pay any attention to politics until just before an election who, like always, will swing this election, and their first dose of him is going to be with him controlling his message, not so much our side getting the word out.
In any case, he either becomes Vice President, or the frontrunner for 2016, when Barack Obama's name will not be on the ballot. If the economy's recovered, perhaps anyone we nominate will be able to claim that mantle of success, if the economy still sucks, then the Repugs could nominate Donald Trump and the gasbag would win.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)...this, especially in light of the fact that Paul has apparently been told to stay away from Florida!!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)For a House member, he's already really well known and that is a result of self promotion efforts on his part. Those that don't know his face certainly do know his budget.
The 2016 part, well, few losing VPs are ever candidates for any major office again. In 4 years, he's Palin. Why you assume he'd be frontrunner is beyond me. Name a losing VP candidate who was a frontrunner in the next cycle. I can not think of even one. Much less one who became the nominee....he'll be Quayle, Ferraro, Jack Kemp (I had to google 'Dole running mate' to recall his name) or any of the other losing VP candidates that vanish into obscurity.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)He is very well known.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)is FDR (Cox's VP candidate against Harding/Coolidge in 1920, and they lost in a blowout).
Paul Ryan is not FDR.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)But IMO having Ryan on the ticket improves our odds, as opposed to a "harmless" pick like Portman. It's also evident that our side has grown a spine this time and will not hesitate to let people know exactly what the Ryan plan means for them.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I think the GOP has other people lined up for that. Historically, being the VP on a ticket that lost is not a good position (Edwards is a perfect example) and I don't think Ryan's aim is to be President right now.
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supernova
(39,345 posts)No substance at all. You're voting for people who hate you. Does that not upset you?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)He makes it very easy to tie Romney -- and *all* downticket GOP candidates -- to Ryan's infamous budget plan.
As to his second sentence, I have no idea who he is talking about. I don't know anybody by that name.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)That's where your talking points belong.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)If he was gonna go to the trouble of registering an account destined for tomb-stoning, he should have trolled a little harder. I'm honestly disappointed. Nobody takes pride in their work anymore.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)they would no longer be freepers!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)it's just not worth the effort. Poor troll is probably juggling 3 jobs trying to keep the cardboard box over his head. Please be kind.
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)of losing. Well that speaks volumes.
bucolic_frolic
(43,258 posts)As the political pendulum moved rightward, Democrats were often
frustratingly quiet about their core ideology. It's like they were
protecting themselves from the fray.
Now we've got what we always wanted, the GOP to expose their
true selves, and it ain't pretty, though they think it is, which is
even better.
"Will you be better off four years from now, if Governor Romney
and Representative Ryan implement their plan to raise your taxes,
eliminate Medicaid, slash Medicare, reduce Social Security, pollute
the world you live in, repeal women's reproductive rights, and make
the wealthiest 2% pay pennies in taxes?"
JustAnotherGen
(31,869 posts)Nearly enough! Because we need some brilliance such as that at DU on a daily basis.
You are absolutely right - They have just fully shown their ass.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)"Will you be better off four years from now, if Governor Romney
and Representative Ryan implement their plan to raise your taxes,
eliminate Medicaid, slash Medicare, reduce Social Security, pollute
the world you live in, repeal women's reproductive rights, and make
the wealthiest 2% pay pennies in taxes?"
http://www.barackobama.com/
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)They must find something irrelevant and scary to discuss instead, something terrifying they can blame on the black man in the White House.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Away from the current economy (not Obama's fault but they're too brainwashed to get that) to which party has the better vision of the future. Exactly what our side wanted the campaign to focus on.
underpants
(182,868 posts)Ian62
(604 posts)I'm surprised Bush came right out and said it.
Same economic policies too.
Same housing boom and bust mentality.
Same job creation potential - Bush has worst record since WW2.
Same economic carnage come with GW Bush's "principles and vision".
Bush and Cheney are NOT attending GOP Convention in Tampa.
It might remind people just how EXACTLY the same Romney is to them.
It might remind people just how BAD they were for America.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Given the tipping point at which the overall state of the world is today, and will be for the next ten years or so...
avebury
(10,952 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The ones that know he's not don't have the balls to attribute their name to the comment.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)And in voting, the 99% have a big advantage. If only too many of them aren't stupid enough to get fooled again by the 1%'s propaganda machine.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)"Its going to elevate the campaign into a debate over big ideas. It means Romney-Ryan can run on principles and provide some real direction and vision for the Republican Party. And probably lose. Maybe big, said former President George W. Bush senior adviser Mark McKinnon. "
heaven05
(18,124 posts)a tax evader picks an inside trader for the highest office in the land? No MSM media speculation on that? Only happen here,now. Sad, very sad. Oh and by the way I wanted to mention also, THE MUSIC HAS BEEN DEAD EVERY SINCE THAT actor HELD OFFICE!!!!!!!
LiveNudePolitics
(285 posts)Who knows how the choice of Ryan is going to play out? But, after watching Whipsaw Willard get so excited that he flubbed the big moment, I get the feeling he kind of believes all the cold blooded budget cutting that Ryan purports will save the nation and the debt. Tax cuts for the rich, lights up all the billionaires financing his campaign! Main;y, I think he gets turned on by all this "individualism versus collectivism" bull crap that finally justifies wanton greed he's practiced all his life and makes it seem noble and moral. Did you see the Mike Wallace tape doctored up? http://livenudepolitics.com/?p=2383