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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:28 AM Dec 2017

Eric Holder warns GOP: 'Any attempt to remove Bob Mueller will not be tolerated'

Source: The Hill




BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 12/14/17 10:23 AM EST

Former Obama Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday warned Congressional Republicans not to make any moves to remove special counsel Robert Mueller, saying such an attempt “will not be tolerated.”




Holder’s tweet comes as conservatives have tried to discredit Mueller and his ability to lead the probe into Russia’s election meddling and any potential ties between Trump campaign staff members and Moscow.

Fox News in particular has called for an end to the Russia investigation, while right-wing pundits have tried to capitalize on news that FBI agent Peter Strzok was taken off the Russia probe because he purportedly sent anti-Trump text messages during the presidential campaign.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/364883-eric-holder-warns-gop-any-attempt-to-remove-bob-mueller-will-not-be-tolerated
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Eric Holder warns GOP: 'Any attempt to remove Bob Mueller will not be tolerated' (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
I appreciate what he is doing. But, I wish he had power. mucifer Dec 2017 #1
Whether or not he has power by virtue of not holding an office, it helps when people of Holder's Nitram Dec 2017 #7
THIS is what democratic leaders MUST DO and immediately.. pangaia Dec 2017 #2
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #4
Hello? DownriverDem Dec 2017 #22
Hello yourself. pangaia Dec 2017 #26
This is coming to a head. If they remove Mueller, watch out. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #3
If trump fires Mueller people will take to the streets, and so will deplorables in reaction. brush Dec 2017 #9
I don't believe this JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #13
Highly unlikely to the point of conspiracy. There are still elections in America as well. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #19
It's not about doom and gloom after Alabama. It's about the country teetering on the edge with... brush Dec 2017 #27
Ditto effieblack's response - and brush's response to me JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #28
Perhaps I should add this. Firing Mueller without Congress acting to begin impeachment... brush Dec 2017 #21
Seem my response to Fred above JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #29
The republicans Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #5
I bet that Trump does fire him yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #6
I guess its time to sharpen up the pitchforks and ready the touches for action. olegramps Dec 2017 #8
could happen Christmas eve. Chipper Chat Dec 2017 #10
then idiot trump's ass will be impeached, and eventually land in jail onetexan Dec 2017 #14
What does he mean? How would anyone stop Trump who has the backing of GOP congress? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11
Nonsense. Courts, free press, public opinion AND Congress are all checks and balances. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #17
I would like to see more visible evidence of checks and balances. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #18
Yep DownriverDem Dec 2017 #23
McConnell and Ryan JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #30
K & R L. Coyote Dec 2017 #12
I think it was Rep. GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #15
Saw that and he made a total ass of himself. Butterflylady Dec 2017 #20
Yes, he did. GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #31
Id like to punch that fucker Jordan. roamer65 Dec 2017 #24
That thought GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #32
Fox News in particular is not bringing these vile charges. It is Fox fake news only 101%. All in. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #16
Anyone else have the thought...Shhhhh....because the stupid Republicans will take it as a dare LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #25
It's a nice threat but... RealityChik Dec 2017 #33

Nitram

(22,813 posts)
7. Whether or not he has power by virtue of not holding an office, it helps when people of Holder's
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

stature speak out. It makes it harder for the the President and the Repubs to oust Mueller in a sneak attack.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. THIS is what democratic leaders MUST DO and immediately..
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:37 AM
Dec 2017

Cut off the lies of fox, republicans and all the fascists NOW...Get out in front of any attempt to go after Mueller or anybody else trying to save the country,,

And not with namby pamby platitudes... Some are doing it.
We need all hands on deck..
AND for the New Neutrality fight, and every other fight!!!

Also spracht Pangaia

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
22. Hello?
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:56 PM
Dec 2017

The Dems do not have any power. They were cut off at the knees in Nov 2016. The media (not just Fox) are corp owned. Guess which side the corp owned media is on? All hands are on deck, which is being expressed all over the internet. Yes, I'm well aware of the net neutrality issue, but the FCC is majority repub. They can do what they want!!!!

So until the Dems win elections, they don't have the power you seem to think they do. Put your efforts into beating the crap out of the repubs. Attacking the Dems makes it seem like they have the power you want them to have. Yes we need to push the Dems and let them know what we think, but for the most part they are on my side of the issues. They just need to be in charge which is why I do all I can so they will win in November 2018.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. This is coming to a head. If they remove Mueller, watch out.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dec 2017

There are people in our country who are teetering on the brink of taking things into their own hands, I believe. If they see the system as not working, they just may take things into their own hands.

Holder is right. This will not be tolerated.

I'm not sanctioning that. I hope the system works. And I'm an older female, so not in a position to DO anything. But I see this as a watershed moment in this administration.

brush

(53,785 posts)
9. If trump fires Mueller people will take to the streets, and so will deplorables in reaction.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:31 PM
Dec 2017

It will be ugly.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
13. I don't believe this
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:26 PM
Dec 2017

Or -rather it 'depends' on HOW they take to the streets.

I truly do not believe those who share our beliefs have that in us to react as one group in a violent action.

Amp up protests? Yes. Until at that point Trump (an autocratic authoritarian) places us under marshall law, and rips up the bill of rights. That I fully believe can happen.

And that is the end of America.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. Highly unlikely to the point of conspiracy. There are still elections in America as well.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:45 PM
Dec 2017

More doom and gloom on DU just 2 days after AL?

brush

(53,785 posts)
27. It's not about doom and gloom after Alabama. It's about the country teetering on the edge with...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:49 PM
Dec 2017

an unstable man in the WH and a Congress who may not move to remove him if he obstructs justice again by firing Mueller.

Let's not act like Charlotteville and the womens' marches didn't happen.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
28. Ditto effieblack's response - and brush's response to me
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:04 PM
Dec 2017

I run an Indivisible group. We are Extremely active.

I'm pumped up.

But let's not gild the lily - we have an insane mad "It" in the white house, a senate and house that is willing to allow "It's" behavior to slide as long as their donors get what they want, and a group of KKK types (this includes everything from polite racists to the so-called alt right tiki torch bearers) who are loaded guns and looking to harm Americans who do not look, walk, talk, act or think like them.

I don't believe McConnell or Ryan would stand up and say "This is wrong! It's un-American! We have to remove Trump Now" if he began to strip us of our rights.

They are only brave when it lines their pockets.
They are NOT brave when it's come to the American People, Civil Liberties, Civil Rights, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

Those wusses are not a stop gap.

brush

(53,785 posts)
21. Perhaps I should add this. Firing Mueller without Congress acting to begin impeachment...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:53 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:17 PM - Edit history (2)

hearings will be a powder keg.

We've already seen millions in multiple cities take to the streets already for reasons much less substantial than a Constitutional crisis of trump firing a second investigator looking into whether he has obstructed justice and/or worked with Russians to steal the election.

I'm not saying that our side will be out to instigate violence.

What I'm saying is that the deplorables will take to the streets in reaction to demonstrations against trump.

We've already seen what can happen in Charlotteville — right wing militias, Antifa, regular people caught in the middle.

The rule of law and existence of the country will be at stake if trump acts and Congress doesn't.

It's not to be taken lightly.



JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
29. Seem my response to Fred above
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:05 PM
Dec 2017

There are things I say Face to Face that we simply cannot have on the internet - and it mostly goes to how we defend ourselves when confronted with the violence of others.

And - you are correct.

Chipper Chat

(9,680 posts)
10. could happen Christmas eve.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:34 PM
Dec 2017

He might rationalize that no one would be paying attention and it would go under Santa's radar.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
11. What does he mean? How would anyone stop Trump who has the backing of GOP congress?
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:06 PM
Dec 2017

There are no checks and balances now.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Nonsense. Courts, free press, public opinion AND Congress are all checks and balances.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:42 PM
Dec 2017

Doom and gloom is not for the Democratic Party. Not these joyfull days!

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
18. I would like to see more visible evidence of checks and balances.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:45 PM
Dec 2017

The GOP does not care at all about public opinion.
GOP has control of congress.
Media has taken a powder.
And courts are being stacked with Trump people.

Not doom and gloom, just reality.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
30. McConnell and Ryan
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:07 PM
Dec 2017

Do not care about any of that.

You understand that - right?

God knows what 45/140's boss has on McConnells wife (who is in Trump's cabinet) but there will be no check.

Only resistance.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
15. I think it was Rep.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:39 PM
Dec 2017

Jim Jordan (R-O) who was practically screaming at Rosenstein during the testimony. He was saying that the probe needs to end because it has no credibility with the American public.

Au contraire. The majority of Americans support the probe, and the majority of Americans smell indictments on the horizon.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
31. Yes, he did.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:00 PM
Dec 2017

I had to laughsnort, though. His frantic desperation to turn this around on Mueller was so obvious it was pathetically funny.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. Fox News in particular is not bringing these vile charges. It is Fox fake news only 101%. All in.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:39 PM
Dec 2017

Fox needs to be terminated as a national security threat for using WMD's in Americans daily... weaponized free speech with lies as TNT.

We will NOT be ACORNed again by vile Fox.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
33. It's a nice threat but...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 09:30 PM
Dec 2017

I don't see what he or anybody else can do about it if Trump decides to fire Mueller. We certainly can't depend on a single republican to put country before party.

So I wish mueller would hurry up and do what he's gotta do to get the job done. It may come down to a flat out citizen revolt. We can't depend on the jellyfish in the Dem Congress to do anything. They are too obsessed with sanctimonious Puritanism to get any work done for us. They care more about burning all the good guys at the stake. Who's next...Ted Lieu? Adam schiff?

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