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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:46 PM Dec 2017

Paul Ryan Sees His Wild Washington Journey Coming to An End

Last edited Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:18 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Politico


He felt he was made for this moment. But now, on the verge of achieving his long-sought legislative dream, hes got his eyes on the exits.

By TIM ALBERTA and RACHAEL BADE December 14, 2017

Spirits were high inside the House chamber on Thursday, November 16, when, in the early afternoon, the gavel fell and a measure to rewrite the American tax code passed on a partisan tally of 227 to 205. As the deciding votes were castrecorded in green on the black digital scoreboard suspended above the floorthe speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, threw his head back and slammed his hands together. Soon he was engulfed in a sea of dark suits, every Republican lawmaker wanting to slap him on the shoulder and be a part of his moment.

Ryan was the man of the hour. Having spent a quarter-century in Washingtonas an intern, waiter, junior think-tanker, Hill staffer and, since 1999, as a member of Congresshe had never wavered in his obsession with fixing what he viewed as the nations two fundamental weaknesses: its Byzantine tax system and ballooning entitlement state. Now, with House Republicans celebrating the once-in-a-generation achievement of a tax overhaul, Ryan was feeling both jubilant and relievedand a little bit greedy. Reveling in the afterglow, Ryan remarked to several colleagues how this day had proven they could accomplish difficult thingsand that next year, they should set their sights on an even tougher challenge: entitlement reform. The speaker has since gone public with this aspiration, suggesting that 2018 should be the year Washington finally tackles what he sees as the systemic problems with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Tinkering with the social safety net is a bold undertaking, particularly in an election year. But Ryan has good reason for throwing caution to the wind: His time in Congress is running short.

Despite several landmark legislative wins this year, and a better-than-expected relationship with President Donald Trump, Ryan has made it known to some of his closest confidants that this will be his final term as speaker. He consults a small crew of family, friends and staff for career advice, and is always cautious not to telegraph his political maneuvers. But the expectation of his impending departure has escaped the hushed confines of Ryans inner circle and permeated the upper-most echelons of the GOP. In recent interviews with three dozen people who know the speakerfellow lawmakers, congressional and administration aides, conservative intellectuals and Republican lobbyistsnot a single person believed Ryan will stay in Congress past 2018.



Read more: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/14/paul-ryan-retire-speaker-ready-leave-washington-216103



Speculation Grows that Paul Ryan Will Step Down

December 14, 2017 at 7:26 am EST By Taegan Goddard

“As Republicans finish their long-sought rewrite of the tax code, some lawmakers are beginning to wonder just how much longer Rep. Paul Ryan intends to remain speaker,” the HuffPost reports.

Said one GOP member: “There’s a whole lot of rumors and speculation that the speaker may step aside.”

“The Wisconsin Republican has made no indication he’s quitting any time soon, but the possibility that Ryan finishes the tax bill and decides he no longer wants to continue in Congress has begun to loom over internal Republican conversations.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2017/12/14/speculation-grows-paul-ryan-will-step/
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Paul Ryan Sees His Wild Washington Journey Coming to An End (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Makes PERFECT sense. Destroy everything that keeps us alive then Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #1
So who did he grope? NCDem777 Dec 2017 #2
The entire nation not fooled Dec 2017 #4
Show us on the map, Timmy... Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #24
If his tax bill passes, he will have some rich corporate, do nothing job waiting for him. LonePirate Dec 2017 #3
I'm sure he's writing a book too FakeNoose Dec 2017 #15
I'm sure he's writing (his byline on somebody's) book too smb Dec 2017 #20
Perfect! Thanks FakeNoose Dec 2017 #23
Smart move, Paulie, retire in 2018 Vogon_Glory Dec 2017 #5
Perhaps Ryan is terrified of facing democrank Dec 2017 #6
nice analysis and opinion piece nt msongs Dec 2017 #7
WE can end this fiasco if this thing passes and he does what he is going to do next year turbinetree Dec 2017 #8
My Social Security check Scarsdale Dec 2017 #17
Good, leave and take your Ayn Rand crap w/ you SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #9
... except in mediocre fiction. dchill Dec 2017 #27
K&R! Traitor deserting ship alert. MelissaB Dec 2017 #10
The terrifying thing is that his GOP successor will be worse. Much worse. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #11
He doesnt want to be blamed for losing the House bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #12
Yup, Ryan wants to CA$H IN. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #13
He's either starting his presidential run early, or he's getting out one step ahead of the lawman... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #14
Good luck with a presidential run bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #26
After Trump, I'll never say anything is impossible politically.... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #35
Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #16
Hope he takes Snotty Walker Scarsdale Dec 2017 #18
We'll be hitting the ground come Spring here in Wisconsin! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #30
I lived in Wis. for 25 years, now in Ill. Scarsdale Dec 2017 #36
Cathy Myers is also running. murielm99 Dec 2017 #31
I am in Wisconsin... Heartstrings Dec 2017 #33
Hahahaha! The rat flees his own sinking ship. apnu Dec 2017 #19
This is what they do. Rob the system and run BootinUp Dec 2017 #21
CNN says he is "soul searching" about his political future. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #22
I'm sure smirky thinks he has a presidential future.nt FigTree Dec 2017 #25
Mueller is closing in. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #28
"His time in Congress". He surely has Presidential ambitions. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #29
The Reagan vs. Carter election is coming up in 2020 when we beat Trump in a landslide. (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #37
You missed the analogy with 1976 and 1980. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #38
OK, I see what you are saying. Here is my prediction: StevieM Dec 2017 #39
One way or another, tRump will be greatly disgraced & history will call him worst president ever. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #40
The whore wants to cash in. sandensea Dec 2017 #32
Someone is seeing the handwriting on the wall...and it's no fun... CTyankee Dec 2017 #34

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Makes PERFECT sense. Destroy everything that keeps us alive then
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:48 PM
Dec 2017

move on to be a lobbyist.

Perfect.

Well done, you filthy fucking murderer.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
24. Show us on the map, Timmy...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:48 PM
Dec 2017

Where Mr. Ryan groped you.

Your honor, let the record show that Timmy is pointing at the entire country.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
5. Smart move, Paulie, retire in 2018
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:52 PM
Dec 2017

And be spared the ignominy of defeat at the polls.

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Darn! I was hoping to see Paulie get the same treatment at the hands of his constituents that the unfortunate Tom Foley got in 1994. That would have been so sweet.

democrank

(11,096 posts)
6. Perhaps Ryan is terrified of facing
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:52 PM
Dec 2017

Randy Bryce, who would reduce Ryan to a teeny puddle on the floor.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
8. WE can end this fiasco if this thing passes and he does what he is going to do next year
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:57 PM
Dec 2017

we need to take back 2/3 of both chambers to override a veto on legislation to repeal what this psychopath is doing, it was and has always been about his narcissistic ego of hurting human beings, to just abuse, and everyone did not see it, that he really is just like the orange hair cretin in the white house.....................a narcissistic asshole..........

I am still going to send him a can of Alpo from my social security check, I get next week......................FUCK HIM

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. My Social Security check
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:29 PM
Dec 2017

will increase by $11 in January. I can not spend any money on this stringbean, who is destroying the country. Social Security is self funding, if they stopped borrowing from the fund. Worthless people.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
9. Good, leave and take your Ayn Rand crap w/ you
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:57 PM
Dec 2017

This guy embraced this concept which has never worked anywhere...

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
11. The terrifying thing is that his GOP successor will be worse. Much worse.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:58 PM
Dec 2017

We have to take the House back. I know it's a daunting task with gerrymandering and voter suppression, but what other choice do we have?

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
12. He doesnt want to be blamed for losing the House
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:04 PM
Dec 2017

Because then his daily bread will be repeal and replace votes on the evil he has done.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
16. Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce!
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:18 PM
Dec 2017

Say that name 3 times a day! Help this good man, and Wisconsin, kick Lyin' Ryan to the curb!

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
30. We'll be hitting the ground come Spring here in Wisconsin!
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:47 PM
Dec 2017

The frozen tundra isn't conducive to much outdoor campaigning. Plus, I hear the headquarters aren't well funded, heat's expensive, and at a minimum. In the meantime we can keep this good mans name out there for exposure:

Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce!

No big front runner against Walker yet, a couple strong possibilities tho!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
36. I lived in Wis. for 25 years, now in Ill.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:15 PM
Dec 2017

Our gov. is no better than Walker. He ran for office saying he would be a one term gov. then return to the private sector. Now he is running for a second term. They love the perks, and being treated like royalty. Not much work involved, either.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
33. I am in Wisconsin...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 05:02 PM
Dec 2017

My preference is Randy Bryce as the stronger candidate....let it play out. I'll keep pushing my candidate as much as I can and voter turnout for 2018 midterms.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
19. Hahahaha! The rat flees his own sinking ship.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:31 PM
Dec 2017

Ryan's district is gerrymandered to protect him, he must be facing serious issues at home to suddenly flee like this.

Either there's a sexual harassment story involving him that's about to explode or his internal poll numbers show he's in the toilet with Trump.

Either way he's taking the cowards way out and bailing.

I don't think anybody will be surprised around here by this act of cowardice.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
21. This is what they do. Rob the system and run
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

For the hide-out. Reminds me of that Phil Gramm dick-head

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
22. CNN says he is "soul searching" about his political future.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:47 PM
Dec 2017

He will have a full time job searching for a soul he never had. Fucking sociopath!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
29. "His time in Congress". He surely has Presidential ambitions.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:40 PM
Dec 2017

I expect he thinks Republicons will tank in 2018 and lose the Presidency in 2020.

I think he may be hoping to be like Reagan vs Carter in 2024 instead of like Ford vs Carter in 2020.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
38. You missed the analogy with 1976 and 1980.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:34 PM
Dec 2017

When Trump is 25thed or impeached and convicted in the Senate or resigns, he become like Nixon in 1974. One of those three is going to happen because tRump is becoming more toxic to Republicons every day and more incompetent by the day. Likely to happen 2018. Malcolm Nance (a knowledgeable ex-member of the intelligence community) predicts indictments will come against Trump, mini-Trump, and Trump-in-law in March of next year.

Thus 2018 = 1974, 2020 = 1976, and 2024 = 1980. Pence = Ford, unless Pence gets removed too. The analogy is not Democrat = Reagan & Trump = Carter.

Yes, Carter won in 1976, but lost in 1980. That was the only Reagan-Carter election: 1980. And yes, every election is different.

Ryan is expecting 2018, because he knows too much. I think he is hoping to have insulated himself from the Trump implosion. He does not want to run in 2020 as a primary challenger to Pence or Pence's replacement. He would rather skip an election and run in 2024 in the same way Reagan avoided 1976 and returned the Republicons to power in 1980.

Note about "order of succession": Ryan is only forced into the Presidency before 2020 if tRump and Pence are fired/resign simultaneously enough that the Vice Presidency is open (replacement VP not appointed). If Trump goes and Pence tries to appoint Ryan as VP, Ryan would decline for the reasons outlined above. Ryan would not want to be forced into the Presidency, also for the reasons outlined above, but he would not decline because it might turn out to be his only chance at being President. If he declined to serve under the order of succession principle, it would end his ambitions for high office.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
39. OK, I see what you are saying. Here is my prediction:
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 09:16 PM
Dec 2017

Trump is proven to be guilty of many impeachable offenses. The GOP doesn't care and lets him get away with it.

Trump is clearly erratic, unstable and a danger to himself and others--and he hasn't been 25thed.

The only way we are going to get rid of this guy is to vote him out.

Since he is a lousy president I have high hopes that we can beat him in a historic landslide. That is, of course, assuming that we remain a democracy, which is by no means guaranteed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
40. One way or another, tRump will be greatly disgraced & history will call him worst president ever.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 09:14 AM
Dec 2017

If he does hang on til Nov 2020, I agree even a modestly strong Democrat will blow him out in a landslide.

The most face-saving way for all Republicons would be to 25th him, ASAP. But it won't happen soon and might not ever.

My prediction is on impeachment and conviction OR resignation in the face of impending i & c, probably in 2018, but maybe early 2019.

The sooner he goes the better.



sandensea

(21,639 posts)
32. The whore wants to cash in.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:50 PM
Dec 2017

Wall Street must have dangled a million-dollar lobbying gig.

That was always what he "felt he was made for."

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