Paul Ryan says American women need to have more babies
Source: Think Progress
During a news conference on Thursday, House Speaker Paul Ryan urged American women to have more babies, saying their lack of procreation was stunting economic growth.
People this is going to be the new economic challenge for America. People, Ryan said, in response to a question about entitlement reform.
Alluding to the fact that hes a father of three, Ryan added, I did my part, but we need to have higher birth rates in this country. Meaning, baby boomers are retiring, and we have fewer people following them in the work force.
We have something like a 90 percent increase in the retirement population in America, but only a 19 percent increase in the working population in American, the Speaker continued. So what do we have to do? Be smarter, more efficient, more technology still going to need more people. And when we have tens of millions of people right here in this country falling short of their potential not working, not looking for a job, or not in school getting a skill to get a job thats a problem.
Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/paul-ryan-says-american-women-need-to-have-more-babies-dc45cb1afec2/
First let me say----------------FUCK YOU Ryan and the horse you rode in on. Because asshole, you want more slave labor for your masters .
And second your no Benjamin Spock , how dare you say that woman need to breed more and have more babies, does you wife there Ryan take birth control, why don't you and her supply the country with the babies that you are looking for, and take her off birth control, because asshole some families can only afford one or two kids, because they can't afford a home, your taking away health care for starters , and your Ayn Rand logic of BS is just fucking amazing..........................
I have solution for you, so that you can be a stay at home father..............................
https://www.randybryceforcongress.com/
George II
(67,782 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)The planet has plenty of people. He's admitting we need some of them.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,160 posts)I am sure he means more white babies to grow up to be GOP voters. Our nation is not exactly underpopulated, and issues regarding an aging population can be mitigated with decent social policy--but God forbid Congress do its job.
BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)in certain states and in families with specific incomes. Maybe he should say only make female babies (he thinks we are nothing but baby making machines to be used by powerful men).
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)...For that matter none of the babies will. That's the only thing he cares about anyway.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)He (Gibson) ran that same meme about a dozen years ago
I remember Colbert mocking him for it
Oneironaut
(5,501 posts)Very few of them have the guts to say white babies, making it even more contemptible.
alp227
(32,027 posts)"RINO" and "cuck" from day 1 of his speakership, so of course Ryan had to cave to them.
BumRushDaShow
(129,081 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)take on families. Like the Mormons, more children is more blessed, more Mormons, more Catholics, more conservatives, etc...
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)I grew up catholic in the 60's. I went to a very big catholic school. (135 in my 8th grade graduating class, so around 1100 in the school)
I knew of about 10 families with more than 3 kids. Almost everyone i knew were 1 to 3 kids.
My still catholic family (including cousins) have zero to 2 kids. The kids are all in the 20's or older.
Now, ultraconservative catholics might still be pushing this philosophy, but catholics themselves quit with the fruitful and multiply nonsense 50 years ago.
Can't speak on the mormon thing, but i think you attribute sensibilities shown by Ryan to too many people. Ryan is a tool and a fool, but i don't think it's rooted in anything other than his own personal, ridiculous world view. He didn't learn that from his church.
BTW: Except for my wedding (in a church for the family) and the funerals of my parents and my wife's parents, i haven't been to church since 1970. So, i'm not protecting the catholic church. Couldn't care less about them.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Many are in government. It's not gone and it's growing. BTW, I'm sitting in a Cathedral as I write this. Not to pray, I'm atheist. Won't say more about that.
Mormons... it's part of their basic philosophy. That's why they have polygamy... and yes, there are many polygamist Mormons, I live in the center of Mormonism. It's not part of their public personna and it was outlawed until a couple of years ago. But it's still around. One man, one wife and the younger sisters go with the wife as concubines. More pregnancies, more children.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)And i get the pre-Vat II nutjob movement. But, that's not the preponderance of catholics who have had the reputation of being "cafeteria" types for a really long time. They believe the parts they want to believe, they adhere to the dictates they fell like sticking with.
While i agree with the invasion of these regressive types in Gov't, i still think it's a very small minority. And, unless one is a rich person and is making big money from donors, and a cushy political gig, people won't have more kids they simply can't afford because they are trying to be "good catholics". My sister still consider herself catholic. (Barely goes to church though, so, see what i mean?) But, after daughter two, that was it. The very idea of a third was anathema.
Same with my "brosins" spouse. (Brother is brother/cousin. Cousin who grew up in our house when his parents died when he was 10.) After the son, no interest in more babies. And they actually still go to church, though my brosin works odd hours and he doesn't go out of his way to attend if it's work inconvenient. (See what i mean again?)
Thanks for the reply.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)I'm really really sure of it.
Vilis Veritas
(2,405 posts)have more babies so we can elect people like Roy Moore
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)Practice what you preach. Don't let the Duggars get ahead of you. Oh, does your wife object?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Which means it's extremely unlikely she would be able to produce more children.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)My 44 year-old niece had a baby two months ago. Of course, I realize he isn't talking about himself, just everyone else in the country they're trying to screw.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)A miracle!!
Homer Wells
(1,576 posts)I would recommend concubines.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)There won't be enough workers to fund the programs, so they will need to be cut...... (wink wink).
bucolic_frolic
(43,176 posts)those confined in those boxes didn't like them, so modern people rejected both
a boring retirement is a short retirement
I know a guy who is 92 and working, and another who is 85
They don't need the money, but they love what they do, and their careers were begun late in life, 60 or over
Ryan should go sit in a confessional for a few months and wisen up
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)at your miserable tax plan) so their only alternative in life is to go into the military and fight wars for oil for you and your buddies? Whose advantage is that?
mpcamb
(2,871 posts)Stargazer99
(2,585 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)As most people in Asia know, and many people around the world, Japan has a near-to-definite negative growth rate. The Japanese government surveyed women at some of Japan's most prestigious universities and reported that almost three-fourths of the women would take on the role of stay-at-home mom (here's the nub) provided their husband made enough money to support the family and had the job security that Japanese workers had prior to 1997.
Nothing came of it.
I mean, heaven forbid workers should make good salaries and be provided job protections
This is what Ryan either will never get, or does and doesn't care, no money = no medium size family
procon
(15,805 posts)with their own bodies. It's 2017 and we still have to deal with these patriarchal jerks from the stone age who think women are mindless broodmares.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)Vinca
(50,276 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)deancr
(150 posts)The proles must have more babies and then impoverish themselves by running up huge debts for their own, and later, their children's education. Both generations can live quiet lives of servitude in low paying jobs due to a surplus of labor. Then they may grow old in poverty and die. Amen.
While climate change and its unfettered march is not a blip in his delusions.
I only wish he would stick around so the iron worker could clean his clock. Alas, cowards run.
mucifer
(23,548 posts)Marthe48
(16,970 posts)Women and men aren't breeding stock. Who in the hell wants to bring children into this nightmare?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But he called them Aryan babies. Ryan updated the rhetoric.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)alp227
(32,027 posts)because they think he's too "soft on immigration".
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)SS, Medicare, etc.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)But in the meantime it's a not veiled attempt to bring back sexist and nationalistic values. It's dangerous to ignore that.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Watch him use it as an excuse to say the low birth rate means SS has to go away or get cut.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)ills are caused by women not giving men enough sex and also enough babies! Not too many babies if you're not wealthy though, unless you're super attractive! Yeah, that's the ticket. These guys are fucking nuts, aren't they?
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)I have been lucky enough not to be around too many of them lately though - the ones who think they are nice and sweet...but then expect that to be sufficient to extract sex without realizing they are just highly insecure, introverted (this can make them appear to be nice guys initially), and manipulative - faking sweet and nice.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)were trying to dodge. More and more and more people, its like shooting ourselves in the foot...and every other species in the face.
And another thing....
Women arent breeding stock.
You want some fucking? Fuck yourself. Again.
hamsterjill
(15,221 posts)We arent all Jim Bob and Michelle.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Mendocino
(7,495 posts)of Jim Bob Duggar.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Gone are the days of dog whistling. Now, it's barking commands.
diane in sf
(3,913 posts)NickB79
(19,253 posts)Who needs Hulu when you have GOP press conferences?
truthisfreedom
(23,148 posts)are all about.
Barefoot and pregnant.
Delphinus
(11,831 posts)where no one can hear me scream ............. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
erpowers
(9,350 posts)It seems to me that the problem in America is not that people are not having enough babies. I do believe the Millennial generation is larger than the baby boom generation. If it is true that the Millennial generation is bigger than the baby boom generation than that means some where along the way people had more babies. The problem seems to be that people are not being trained with skill that will allow them to enter the work force. There are supposedly hundreds of thousands of jobs to millions of jobs that are not being filled because there is no one with the skills to complete the task. Paul Ryan should focus on figuring out how to train people in a way that would allow them to take the unfilled jobs. It has been said that many of the jobs that employers are struggling to fill are actually high paying jobs.
Second, you are right. Considering Paul Ryan is not a father of ten or more children he has no right to tell other Americans to have more children. He and his wife made a decision to only have three children. Everyone else should have that same choice.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)weekends. time for him to retire and go back to wisconsin.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)Barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen! Jesus! What a fool! Repubes need to come into the 21st century!!!
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)The world has more than enough people: if the Paul Ryan thinks the US needs some more he can introduce legislation to encourage immigration.
I somehow don't think that's what he wants, though - he couldn't guarantee that the "correct" people will immigrate.
marble falls
(57,099 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Knock her up! Knock Her up!
Simple shit for simple minds!
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)Punishes families with 3 or more children and he wants to cut Medicaid?
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)My parents had 8 children and we lived on one salary. Had a house, food and money for college. Now it's adults in their 30's sharing one small place and never being able to afford their own homes. Did I say fuck you in the last ten minutes? No? Then fuck you.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Economically.
Ryan wants to flood the u.s. mkt with cheap labor. People can't find jobs NOW!
murielm99
(30,745 posts)so they can train them to be dead soldiers. So said George Carlin.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)One of the Nazis first tasks was to encourage families to produce as many children as possible. With a greater population, Nazi Germany could flourish as a strong and pure nation. In the time before Hitler took power, the Weimar era, the birth rate was steadily dropping from 36 births per thousand inhabitants in 1901, to 14.7 births per thousand inhabitants in 1933 (Pine 10). In an effort to change this, the Nazis encouraged motherhood through propaganda in order to sway public opinion.
The Nazi party also enacted legislative measures to insure that the birth rate would rise. All forms of birth control were outlawed, and harsh penalties in the form of fines or death were in store for suppliers. In January 1941, Heinrich Himmlers Police Ordinance even went as far as to shutting down contraceptive production in Germany (Pine 19). Abortion was outlawed as well, except in the cases of the socially unfit, where it would often be mandatory.
The difference here is the Nazis, offered rewards like the Mothers Cross, programs that helped to raise the children, as well as benefits to encourage families to reproduce!
Locrian
(4,522 posts)The criminal justice system is going to need a lot more people to put in private prisons to make a profit.
And to fight wars
Work for below minimum wage
I mean, the rich are way to important to do any actual work. For that you need slaves... er, people.
itcfish
(1,828 posts)Non-Hispanic Babies he wants
riversedge
(70,242 posts)yup.
.....Furthermore, theres an obvious solution to the problem that Ryan completely ignores allowing more immigrants into the country to fill the jobs being vacated by retiring baby boomers. But instead of using his position as House Speaker to pursue immigration reform, Ryan has instead indicated hes on board with Trumps hardline anti-immigration positions, including the presidents insistence on spending billions of dollars on a border wall.
Bayard
(22,093 posts)We need the labor and cannon fodder.
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)And refuse to fund birth control or abortion.
They need more worker bees.
Master/Slave plantation society.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)My husband and I will have more babies when he can get pregnant. I suspect paul ryan's wife thinks the same.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)How? The average boomer has, what $50,000 in savings? That'll last 2 years at best.
That's sort of the price you pay for skyrocketing the productivity and cost of living while keeping the wages flatter than a pancake for 40 years.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,196 posts)My highest earning year was 2002 when I made $43K. If my wages had kept up with inflation, I would be making over $58K, which would be quite comfortable for me as a single person in Texas.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)At 48 I have, maybe, CLOSE to 4x after 24 years of working adult jobs. And that's WITH max contribution in funds that, overall, beat the index by 7% over that period of time.
Whoever peddled 401ks as the be-all, end-all for the "Three Prong System" (SS, Pension, individual savings . . . and pensions are an anachronism) must still be living in the 1990s, where you could blindfold-dart-toss a fund/stock and it would return 20%. The math just does NOT add up.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,196 posts)I was my mother's caregiver for several years and that impacted my career. Since being laid off in 2010, I just never got my career back on track, and sank into depression to the point of disability. But, such is life. I did a good job caring for my mom. I have some sense of satisfaction from that. But unless I win the lottery, I will not be financially secure.
The thing is, and the GOP doesn't seem to get this, is that when people can't save enough for retirement, they have to work longer. That means jobs for younger people don't open up as often, so that affects younger generations and we have downward mobility. Those making less than $50K NEED A RAISE. That really will stimulate the economy and savings.
greyl
(22,990 posts)Tim Gionet, who operates online under the moniker Baked Alaska, urged white people to have more children and form some sort of coalition following Roy Moores loss because white people are the ones that are picking the right people.
Gionet, who had taken a brief hiatus from his prior status as an alt-right flunky to stream himself playing video games and preaching the gospel, returned to political commentary this week to provide real-time commentary on the results of Alabamas special election to fill the Senate seat once held by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. When news broke that Republican candidate Roy Moore had been defeated by Democrat Doug Jones, Gionet began ranting about black voters after one of his viewers posted statistics in a Discord chat server that detailed black voters overwhelming support of Jones.
I dont mean to be a dick here, but what is going on with the non-white voters? I mean, what isif you care about MAGA, if you care about Trump, if you care about Make America Great Again, if you care about the good MAGA candidates, its mostly white people who are voting for these people and the non-whites are, and Im not saying all, but Im saying a large [percentage], almost 90 percent, are not voting for the MAGA candidates, Gionet said. What is going on?
Gionet agreed with a comment that a viewer named Joey posted in the chat server, that the election results in Alabama were like a black-lash.
More: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/after-roy-moore-loss-baked-alaska-urges-white-people-to-have-babies-form-a-coalition/