CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity
Source: The Washington Post
The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nations top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases including fetus and transgender in any official documents being prepared for next years budget.
Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are vulnerable, entitlement, diversity, transgender, fetus, evidence-based and science-based.
In some instances, the analysts were given alternative phrases. Instead of science-based or evidence-based, the suggested phrase is CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes, the person said. In other cases, no replacement words were immediately offered.
The question of how to address such issues as sexual orientation, gender identity and abortion rights all of which received significant visibility under the Obama administration has surfaced repeatedly in federal agencies since President Trump took office. Several key departments including Health and Human Services, which oversees the CDC, as well as Justice, Education, and Housing and Urban Development have changed some federal policies and how they collect government information about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)tblue37
(65,393 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I'm thinking Vlad put them up to it.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)mpcamb
(2,871 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Big Win.
They cant dehumanize the baby anymore.
5 posted on 12/15/2017, 9:48:12 PM by Regulator
7 posted on 12/15/2017, 9:50:39 PM by SpaceBar
Auggie
(31,173 posts)tblue37
(65,393 posts)they wouldn't do it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,722 posts)every day. What the actual fuck is going on???
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,722 posts)who need help from the evidence-based and science-based communities to increase the diversity of their surroundings and aid their access to entitlements.
Auggie
(31,173 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)raging moderate
(4,305 posts)I bet they could say something like "based on mathematical analysis of objective observations of actual physical phenomena." I am not a scientist, so I bet actual scientists could construct much better phrases than mine. I have read that the atomic scientists who were forced to work for Adolph Hitler actually did their best to avoid constructing actual atomic bombs for him, partly by using their scientific sophistication to hide key facts in their required reports.
raging moderate
(4,305 posts)Excuse me. People at the CDC are dealing with disease and microorganisms. We'd better let them do their jobs, if we don't want the massive epidemics of the past to return. The super-rich should consider the fact that whatever goes around comes around, and the air and water of Planet Earth circulate all over.
progree
(10,908 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)There are a hell of a lot of things that meet "community standards" that do no merit consideration. But, that is exactly what they want to let in. They want to let in consideration of outdated beliefs and customs that actual science and logic would rule out. Female circumcision is an accepted community standard in a lot of communities still. Good science and logic put the light on such ignorant practices though.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Matthew28
(1,798 posts)bluestateboomer
(505 posts)Vinca
(50,276 posts)Sedona
(3,769 posts)"Join the Resistance.
Thats one of the first messages on a newly created Twitter account that says its trying to protect the scientific integrity of the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The AltCDC account like its counterparts set up for other federal agencies that deal with scientific matters is a reaction to moves by the Trump administration to prevent federal scientists from sharing data with the press and the public.
Nothing on the AltCDC page identifies who is behind the account. The account profile, alongside a photo of the Greek letter omega, asks for direct messages if you are a scientist willing to use this account to fight against political interference in science.
The accounts ethos is represented in several hashtags: #FactsMatter, #FactsNotFear and #SolidarityinScience.
More at link
Beearewhyain
(600 posts)We have had defense of literal nazi's and now we have Orwellian New Speak. What political Rubicon will this administration not cross?
enough
(13,259 posts)beloved country.
chia
(2,244 posts)"If you've ever wondered what you would have done in 1930s Germany or during the civil rights movement, congratulations:
you're doing it now."
--Matthew Miller
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)smdh...
I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe.
riversedge
(70,241 posts)dhill926
(16,339 posts)jesus christ. Historians are gonna have a field day with this period....
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)If Trumpism isn't soundly defeated, the truth of this period will vanish down the memory hole and future historians will be propagandists.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)Maybe caused by Zika?
Note the name and title on the lab coat.
Nunes is a Portuguese name. The practitioner's title is obviously a Latin based title, it definitely not English.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)since it affects fetuses.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)Is this "newspeak"? Goodness, can't people (Fox and Friends) see what he is doing? Oh, wait...they have never read the book by George Orwell. OK, that explains it. They just don't know literature OR history. This is too obvious, though.
demmiblue
(36,860 posts)PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.
― George Orwell, 1984
This is (I don't have the word). It (the word for this no longer exists). So how will we then talk about (the words are now forbidden)?
The sooner this criminal fuck and his criminal, traitorous family are out of power, the better off we will all be.
See this?
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We are that close to dictatorship. It is a race with time, with the side of the Breakers continuing at breakneck speed while the jaws of justice tighten against them. One can readily see a parallel with the final months of the Third Reich - the Nazi destroyers kept killing people in their death camps even as their country collapsed in ruins around them.
Initech
(100,079 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)dchill
(38,502 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)If scientists are forbidden to speak the language of science, the US will continue to lose what's left of its lead in science.
Canada and Germany have re-affirmed their commitment to net neutrality.
Expect them to welcome scientists and entrepreneurs. Again.
Cape Breton beckons.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Thank goodness others are picking up our slack
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/11/570036260/macron-awards-u-s-climate-scientists-grants-to-make-our-planet-great-again
Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Bernardo de La Paz This message was self-deleted by its author.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)since President Trump took office. Several key departments including Health and Human Services, which oversees the CDC, as well as Justice, Education, and Housing and Urban Development have changed some federal policies and how they collect government information about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans.
Remember the trump lie - He loves teh gays
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)How ridiculous.
Surprised they did not suggest replacing vagina with pussy.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)that they are going to get away with it
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)There are some very clever people working to destroy our ability to see and analyze and affect reality.
There is a significant amount of research analyzing the ways in which Naziism essentially destroyed the German language for a number of years. There were a number of topics that simply couldn't be discussed in German for a long time because the Nazis had so twisted the meaning of the words or had eliminated the words all together.
IIRC there were older German literary scholars who contended it would be a very long time before German authors of the past (such as Goethe and Schiller) could be read because of the damage done to the language.
Then add the years of damage done to the languge in East Germany. There was some contention that there were 2 different languages from 2 different histories
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)RVN VET71
(2,692 posts)-- a less farcical look at "Things to Come" than Idiocracy, but drawing the same conclusion about our very possible future. (And I just heard George Allen, from beyond the grave, uttering his famous apothegm: The future is now.)
RVN VET71
(2,692 posts)we'll look back on Trump with convulsive shudders every time the media show videos of him in the exercise yard at Florence Supermax where the other traitors are kept.
Still a big "if", but looking a little better since Rosenstein signaled support for (at least in saying he didn't see any reason to fire) Mueller. Mueller is the main key to survival. If he goes, so does the Republic.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Sick control freaks
Girard442
(6,075 posts)Apparently the attack has already happened, they won decisively, and we are occupied.
There goes more of freedom of speech.
Rebl2
(13,518 posts)should ignore them. They do have freedom of speech. If they try to fire them, sue them.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Resist, government workers!
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I guess that one scared them so much they couldn't even broach the subject without smelling salts on hand.
sandensea
(21,636 posts)PSPS
(13,600 posts)LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)Which is where that directive likely originated.
He has expressed doubt about Zika and funding research about it before, so it looks like he is manipulating the language CDC can even use to request budget for research.
Hes also acting director of Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Bureau.
This is the stuff of nightmares.
https://www.snopes.com/trumps-budget-director-pick-asked-really-need-government-funded-research/
On 19 December 2016, Mother Jones Pema Levy reported on one of Mulvaneys since-deleted Facebook posts, unearthed by a Democratic opposition research group named American Bridge. This post from 9 September 2016 came at a time that Congress was debating funding research into efforts to fight the spread of the Zika virus. In it, Mulvaney suggested the federal government (whose budget office he is now nominated to lead) might not be well served by funding science research at all:
It has been a busy week, and with everything else going on I havent had a chance to post on Zika, which I know has been in the news a bit. I have received all sorts of emails and FB comments this week on Zika. Some people want me to pass a clean bill (which I suppose means not paying for it with spending reductions elsewhere). Other folks want us to fund more research if we can find a way to pay for it. No one has written me yet, though, to ask what might be the best question: do we really need government-funded research at all.
The post, though deleted, can still be viewed on a cached version of Mulvaneys Facebook page. His argument against science funding (and science in general) seems to follow arguments made by other prominent Trump transition team figures: because science is sometimes wrong, or not clear cut, it shouldnt be trusted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-declines-remove-trump-pick-mulvaney-consumer-financial-protection-bureau-n824711
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)If that makes sense.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)Facts that get in the way of greed have to go. And I can't help but think that all of them are mean and cruel.
If the ignorance of your supporters must be nurtured to gain wealth for yourself, your greed demands you stoke that ignorance.
I think it also has to do with control - ignorant people are easier to control.
If you get to make up things and label them as facts and your supporters believe them, then you control their thinking, meaning you control them. And not just your supporters - young people get caught up in this and some don't bother to find out any differently.
The GOP has shaped generations this way already.
There is no easy fix to this as this pattern has been allowed to flourish for a long time now.
The Press/Media that treats opinion as the same as fact - seldom, if ever, challenging the opinion regardless of how baseless and wrong.
Republican politicians have also pushed opinion as fact without any real challenge to what they claim as fact.
Some have opted to be what they call respectful instead of pushing back against the poorly formed, ill-informed opinion presented as fact.
Nothing respectful or nice or decorous about allowing such to happen. If it be protocol to pretend a flagrant falsehood isn't a lie, then protocol has become its own damnation.
Another example...Religious belief is not and never will be equal to scientific fact. Nor should it ever be treated that way. For any reason. It's not disrespectful to religion to recognize that it is a belief and not a fact. It is, however, not only disrespectful to all areas of democracy to pretend the two are equal, it is dangerous.
It's early and I haven't had coffee yet. lol
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Yes, this is a malignant combination of greed and viciousness, with a heavy dose of authoritarianism.
All I can think is that the cycle will change and they will be ousted from these positions of power, but damn, the damage they will do in the meantime.
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)Train wreck and all.
I was mumbling about Trump while I was typing and my husband asked if I was typing what I was mumbling. I laughed and made the coffee comment. Because I wasn't typing what I was mumbling - lots of curse words.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)through woods and over streams, but very, very slow. I remember the train nearing walking speed as it went through some curves.
And the Amtraks up here sometimes stop completely to allow freight trains to go by, since they seem to have priority.
Looks like they recently upgraded to what they call high speed here in the states, which would be middling speed in Europe. Now it seems that wasnt even done properly, with deadly consequences.
Theres a strong contingent of conservatives up here, who trash any transit plans that arent car centered. I imagine theyll feed off this, vultures that they are.
Entirely get the profanity. Some of my posts would be every other word if I included all the curse words I was thinking or muttering as I typed.
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)Mannheim to Paris in under 3 hours. Over 5 hours to drive, and the train time is with stops.
Rail passes were relatively inexpensive and I could go all over the continent. (just about)
I miss the strassenbahn too.
I often took the train to Frankfurt and Stuttgart.
My husband and I were talking about our mutual antipathy for Trump. We both hated Shrub - still do.
But Trump...Trump is a disease and the negative feelings for him...the aversion to him...the sheer disdain for all things Trump...it's like hating cancer, you know?
Cancer kills...Trump's ignorance and arrogance will get people killed. There's no treatment for Trump though. Not really.
I think many of us always knew of the ugly underbelly - and not not so under - that exist in America...that Trump played to and brought to the forefront so readily....and tamping it back down won't be easy.
Bush scratched at it and produced sparks - the whole of the GOP did and still does scratch at it. Trump's hate for people - and it is hate - is more naked...more open...but Trump is still everything the GOP has been working for for years...to include Bush helping it along.
His father before him played to the hate and ignorance of their voters. As did Reagan and Nixon.
And they got away with it....is it any wonder a Trump would come along?
I'll stop now.
Glad you're OK!
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Lunches and chatting with fascinating people on my train trips in Europe. And you get such a lovely sense of the area when you go through it by train.
This is a tragedy, but I hope train travel here continues to develop more.
We have started getting streetcars and link rail here. Makes for a calming inexpensive trip to the airport, with a fantastic view of Mount Rainier thrown in if the day is clear.
Still not extensive like the ones in Germany or Zurich, but a good start. Restart, actually, since you can still see the old track of some of the ones that were torn out to make way for cars.
Total aside, I remember when I lived in California and thee film, Roger Rabbit had come out. A local PBS station down there ran a documentary about the many streetcars LA used to have and how gas companies schemed to have them removed. Gave a real twist to watching Roger Rabbit. There was a core of truth at the center of the plot under the zaniness.
I agree with all you say about Bush and Trump and Reagan and Nixon. Some days I have difficulty even talking about it. I get so angry. I rewatched All the Presidents Men the other day and it was both infuriating and cathartic. Though lately, it feels we are more stuck in the most bizarre of the Black Mirror episodes.
PragmaticDem
(320 posts)It makes me want to puke.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)vulnerable, entitlement, diversity, transgender, fetus, evidence-based and science-based
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Nor are about fifty other words I would "liberally" use in my reports back to the White House.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)this administration? They are all criminals.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)As others noted, this is straight out of Orwells 1984. How dare they, may they rot in Hell if there is a Hell.
Hopefully the decent people will show up to vote in 2018/2020.....if we are still allowed to and if the vote is on the up and up.
Bayard
(22,077 posts)The word, "Democratic".
So basically, they're saying a totally scientific organization cannot use scientific words.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)...any words thst lead to common ground snd civil discourse.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)just left a position working on CDC health study... I know some of those CDC people and they are not happy
samnsara
(17,622 posts)ask questions. Donna Diversity- Frank Fetus- T. R. Ansgender
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Where the hell are the adults? Does the f'ing GOP have any GD respondsible adults?
grumpyduck
(6,240 posts)My initial reaction agrees with most of the above, but then I saw the other side of it. Bear with me.
The seven words are blocked specifically in budget documents and requests. Now, we know who is going to review those documents, right? Members of Congress. We also know that members of Congress just love to sidetrack conversations by grabbing on to a term or word and going off on long debates about its meaning; it's an old trick to disorient people. Heck, trial lawyers do the same thing.
For instance, the term "fetus." A lawmaker can hijack the discussion by going off on requesting a definition of the word, and then debating it, instead of talking about the subject matter. And they love to do this.
So, my suggestion to CDC was (I wrote them a note this morning) to look at the bright side: find someone (or several someones) who can translate budget documents into fourth-grade English and submit them that way. Take away the opportunity to hijack the discussion by going off on tangents.
Now, do I believe for one second that CDC will discuss this idea internally even for a moment? Heck no.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,472 posts)Retweeted by David Fahrenthold: https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold
NEW: It's not just at CDC. Certain words are banned at at multiple HHS agencies. Words include diversity and vulnerable. Also, at the State Department now, certain documents refer to sex education as sexual risk avoidance. My story with @eilperin.
Link to tweet
Words banned at multiple HHS agencies include diversity and vulnerable
By Lena H. Sun and Juliet Eilperin December 16 at 7:00 PM
The Trump administration has informed multiple divisions within the Department of Health and Human Services that they should avoid using certain words or phrases in official documents being drafted for next years budget.
....
At the State Department, meanwhile, certain documents now refer to sex education as sexual risk avoidance. .... Rush Holt, chief executive of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, said: Among the words forbidden to be used in CDC budget documents are evidence-based and science-based. I suppose one must not think those things either. Heres a word thats still allowed: ridiculous.
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At the State Department, for example, employees received a guidance document on Wednesday that outlined how they should develop country operating plans under the Presidents Plan for Emergency AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) for 2018. This document repeatedly uses the phrase sexual risk avoidance, which has been defined in recent congressional funding bills as abstinence-only practices until marriage, as the primary form of sex education.
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The same guidance document includes a line touting the efficacy of abstinence-only programs, referring to abstinence as a highly effective form of prevention. ... Several public health experts questioned that assertion, noting that multiple studies have shown that there is little evidence this form of education either delays sexual activity or reduces the number of sexual partners a person has. A nine-year congressionally mandated study concluded in 2007 that teenagers enrolled in abstinence-only programs were no more likely to refrain from having sex than those who did not enroll. Among those who did have sex, the study found, there was no difference in when they began to engage in this activity or how many partners teens in each group had.
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Lena H. Sun is a national reporter for The Washington Post, focusing on health.
Follow @bylenasun
Juliet Eilperin is The Washington Post's senior national affairs correspondent, covering how the new administration is transforming a range of U.S. policies and the federal government itself. She is the author of two booksone on sharks, and another on Congress, not to be confused with each otherand has worked for the Post since 1998.
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