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highplainsdem

(48,980 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:21 PM Dec 2017

Ex-CIA director puts Fox News 'on notice' for their 'conspiratorial hit job' on Robert Mueller and

Source: RawStory

Ex-CIA director puts Fox News ‘on notice’ for their ‘conspiratorial hit job’ on Robert Mueller and the FBI

Ambassador James Woolsey, a former CIA director under President Bill Clinton, has put Fox and their host Lou Dobbs “on notice” amid the network’s continued attempts to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller and undermine his Russia investigation.

In a statement provided to Raw Story, Woolsey’s representative Jonathan Franks said the former CIA director is “extremely disappointed” in Dobbs, Fox Business and Fox News “over this inaccurate, unprofessional [and] conspiratorial hit job.”

“We’ve placed Fox on notice,” Franks added.

He referenced a Friday night Fox News clip in which commentator Christopher Bedford, editor-in-chief of the conservative Daily Caller website, said the special counsel lacks integrity and his probe has been “hopelessly compromised.”

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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/ex-cia-director-puts-fox-news-on-notice-for-their-conspiratorial-hit-job-on-robert-mueller-and-the-fbi/

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Ex-CIA director puts Fox News 'on notice' for their 'conspiratorial hit job' on Robert Mueller and (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2017 OP
What does 'on notice' mean? Ramifications? nt babylonsister Dec 2017 #1
Same question I have. What does this mean exactly. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #20
It's a step up from double secret probation. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #39
In other words secret squirrel talk. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #64
I believe he has long standing respect with CIA... FarPoint Dec 2017 #55
wow, respected by the CIA.... tomp Dec 2017 #57
cut to the chase... FarPoint Dec 2017 #59
Like Maraya1969 Dec 2017 #61
You didn't get my point? tomp Dec 2017 #62
thank you for sharing FarPoint Dec 2017 #63
Hyperbole that belongs in single quotes for its silliness? Hortensis Dec 2017 #37
On notice....If you do this again SayItLoud Dec 2017 #41
Worse LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #56
Perhaps he has some influence we do not know about. riversedge Dec 2017 #42
They will send him a strongly worded letter. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #48
Agree with the criticism of FOX, but "on notice" is kinda weak. Hoyt Dec 2017 #2
I don't know if it is or not. I just know if anyone from the CIA... ret5hd Dec 2017 #4
Good point PatSeg Dec 2017 #58
It's a little like double secret probation. nt Gore1FL Dec 2017 #21
Ha! I didn't see your comment. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #40
It's the press. What is Woolsey going to do? Ilsa Dec 2017 #3
Maybe plant an DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #10
In recognition of your 2000th post..... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #30
lawsuit? Defamation is actionable. However, it's probably about access. librechik Dec 2017 #54
the silly part is that talk radio is where it starts - fox is the viz icing on the certainot Dec 2017 #5
+++++can't be stated enough. Thanks again for highlighting lunasun Dec 2017 #8
I agree. n/,t. whathehell Dec 2017 #25
Absolutely deancr Dec 2017 #38
i think it's still extremely damaging and supportive of trump republicanism certainot Dec 2017 #43
Agreed deancr Dec 2017 #44
i believe the talk radio psyops can be destroyed with a variety of steps and until it is certainot Dec 2017 #47
And stop playing Rush several times a day on armed forces radio. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #49
Bingo! JawJaw Dec 2017 #60
Don't bother to give them notice, kiss their asses with every bit of power flamingdem Dec 2017 #6
I hope you mean KICK their asses... pangaia Dec 2017 #7
Ooooops! That would be KICK their asses flamingdem Dec 2017 #14
LOL pangaia Dec 2017 #15
You can edit the original, you know. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #50
Whoa, that dint sound right. 😮 Oh, okay. More better now. Whew! 😉 sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #29
Woolsey MaupitiBlue Dec 2017 #9
They're after him, and us, and everybody.... I am NOT confident at this point.... pangaia Dec 2017 #17
Right wingers are great propagandists. They get their talking points and then they all tblue37 Dec 2017 #51
What if Fox News was paid, by certain foreign companies, OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2017 #11
on notice bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #12
I think orangecrush Dec 2017 #23
I know he is upset like all of us and using his prior position but Fox is probably laughing lunasun Dec 2017 #13
With The Acquisition From Disney... Grassy Knoll Dec 2017 #16
(I don't think Fox Nooze was part of that deal...) lastlib Dec 2017 #35
Maybe it means they are gonna do a Flynn Corgigal Dec 2017 #18
Top CIA people keep connected with the agency.....I think he is hinting at tableturner Dec 2017 #19
yep orangecrush Dec 2017 #24
IMHO it means stop pissing off the intel community Thekaspervote Dec 2017 #22
SOME don't take that oath seriously --like the NY cadre that played Comey tblue37 Dec 2017 #52
He's " disappointed in Dobbs, Fox Business and Fox News"??? marybourg Dec 2017 #26
Homicidal..... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #31
Well Woolsey played with the wolves and he got bit. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #27
Maybe a little renditioning to black sites n/t tikka Dec 2017 #28
Dobbs and Hannity are pushing fox authoritarian propoganda network democratisphere Dec 2017 #32
Thinking about Trump True Blue American Dec 2017 #33
republicans are steadily weakening America Achilleaze Dec 2017 #34
Yes, and that is what True Blue American Dec 2017 #36
Does he have dirt on Dobbs? Murdoch? Tatiana Dec 2017 #45
'Fox news' is registered Linda Ed Dec 2017 #46
When Fox News loses the likes of Woolsey underpants Dec 2017 #53
Sorry, but this piece is as empty as ME saying it on DU. Meaningless ramblings. nm Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #65

Irish_Dem

(47,092 posts)
20. Same question I have. What does this mean exactly.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:40 AM
Dec 2017

I just know I would not want the CIA serving me notice.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
57. wow, respected by the CIA....
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 02:49 PM
Dec 2017

....not exactly a ringing endorsement for integrity. you do know the history of the CIA, don't you?

FarPoint

(12,386 posts)
59. cut to the chase...
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:56 PM
Dec 2017

Get to your point...your condescending demeanor is showing...I'm open to discussion.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
62. You didn't get my point?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:49 PM
Dec 2017

Let me spell it out for you: don't trust the cia or people whom they endorse. The cia are not the friend of the people. And as a corollary: anyone who has had a leadership position in the cia is not to be trustes either. Clear?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Hyperbole that belongs in single quotes for its silliness?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 07:10 AM
Dec 2017

I'd love to think he has something on Murdoch, or top members of the Fox apparatus, that'd send them straight to prison, though.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
41. On notice....If you do this again
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:58 AM
Dec 2017

I'm not going to watch ! A toothless statement without the "or else".

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
56. Worse
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 02:25 PM
Dec 2017

As an old EX CIA he can't do diddly squat. All he is doing is giving Faux News yet another CT to hang their propaganda machine on. I can hear them now...

Fox News threatened by a Clinton era CIA director! Don't worry folks, we here at Fox News will continue to provide you with the truth and let you decide!

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
4. I don't know if it is or not. I just know if anyone from the CIA...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:36 PM
Dec 2017

told me I was "on notice" I'd stop whatever I was doing even if it was only smoking a cigarette.

But that's just me. I don't think it will have the same effect on them.

PatSeg

(47,450 posts)
58. Good point
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 02:53 PM
Dec 2017

If this was a movie, the CIA and/or the FBI would have damaging information on these Fox clowns that they could use against them, but this is the real world. Apparently the CIA isn't as sinister as we've thought they were. Can't believe I'm rooting for them to be sinister!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. It's the press. What is Woolsey going to do?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:34 PM
Dec 2017

They can lie about almost anything. It's up to the viewers to stop watching and call them out.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
30. In recognition of your 2000th post.....
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:44 AM
Dec 2017

I agree wholeheartedly. Something must be done to quiet Trump TV. "All lies, all the time" should be their motto.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
54. lawsuit? Defamation is actionable. However, it's probably about access.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:10 PM
Dec 2017

I'm guessing. Woosley just won't be available to Fox.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
5. the silly part is that talk radio is where it starts - fox is the viz icing on the
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:45 PM
Dec 2017

lie turd pie of talk radio.

trump studied talk radio in 2014! he's the talk radio candidate and dems ignore it

deancr

(150 posts)
38. Absolutely
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:05 AM
Dec 2017

It ruined the hearts and minds of many beyond hope of repair. The hope is generational transition at this point. Rush doesn't sell as well to the kids.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
43. i think it's still extremely damaging and supportive of trump republicanism
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:31 AM
Dec 2017

it is its creator and there would be great value in destroying the monopoly messaging power and discrediting the talk radio gods - a lot of the damage is ongoing secondary and tertiary propaganda damage who would easily reverse course on a lot of it if the main spewers of the alt reality were discredited.

deancr

(150 posts)
44. Agreed
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 11:30 AM
Dec 2017

Damage is still being done, but we lack any viable means of discrediting their vile spew. Air America was a wonderful attempt at discrediting in kind, but, lacking the right wing money subsidies that Rush and his ilk receive, it failed. I saw the damage on a personal level in my mostly rural area in Northern Michigan. Maddening and so very sad.
My comfort is that radio is losing its efficacy as kids are increasingly plugged into other media sources. Damage is still being done, but less by the year. As to the already brainwashed, they are the irredeemables of whom Hillary spoke. A danger to themselves and others.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
47. i believe the talk radio psyops can be destroyed with a variety of steps and until it is
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:53 PM
Dec 2017

challenged it will continue to make real democracy impossible. we shouldn't fall into the trap thinking that it's something we need to compete with - that's mom and pop vs wall mart.

here are a few free speech things people can do. demanding that our universities stop supporting it may be the best way with minimum effort used to scare off many of their advertisers. whatever the schools actually do is irrelevant - the discussion in public will do it, imo.

consider how it would effect michigan politics if just one of these schools was pushed by protestors into rethinking their support for all these limbaugh stations -- Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1

to start, dems and media and political scientists need to be encouraged to poll trump support for talk radio. too much analysis ignores the fact that this is actually the talk radio president and most of putin’s trolling piggybacked it. i’ll bet it shows the closest association outside of ‘white’, and that will help establish it as a major factor.

monitor it —  should be easier now to automate recording and transcribing the main rw talkers so people can search and study the patterns and repetition. if all of a sudden there’s a spike in, say the word ‘iran’ or ‘mueller’ or ‘deep state’, etc, it probably means something. knowing about it before  it becomes reality means not always having to play catch up

credit it —  trump needs a RUSH tattoo on his forehead, as do all republican pols and media hacks. they all ride the talk radio bandwagon and feed from the daily smorgasbord of talking points and excuses. dems in media could accurately preface answers to republican media hacks and politicians with “that’s what limbaugh says but...”

investigate it —  how long has putin been using it? did they find a way to feed limbaugh and coordinate with him and others? are any of them being paid  freelance money? exposing the talk radio gods as tools, especially russian tools, would help. Trump guy Sam Nunberg analyzed 1000s of hrs of RW radio & reported to Trump in 2014. to coordinate with Russian ops?

‘thank’ all local businesses that advertise on RW radio stations —  thank them for trump, trumpcare, global warming, privatization of public education, voter suppression, deregulation, tax breaks for billionaires, etc. it’s easy and fun to listen to a few minutes here and there and get a few  email addresses for thank-you notes that can get to the boss/owners.

protest it —   include the radio stations in any progressive protests —  they may  be better places to protest than capitols —  politicians and media will notice.

and to combine a few of those, push the 88 universities that endorse 257 limbaugh stations to stop crapping on their mission statements and start  looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on —  maybe their political science faculties and students can start studying the most dominant political factor in the US the last 30 years. people need to wonder why the unis should drop rw radio. it will start a discussion, gop will freak out, media will notice, and advertisers will flee.

JawJaw

(722 posts)
60. Bingo!
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:31 PM
Dec 2017

I remember Mike Malloy ranting about the lack of wealthy Dem support for a progressive radio network, years ago.

He was dead right then and right now.

Why waste tens of millions on TV campaign ads that just fatten the wallets of corporate media when a fraction of that, invested in an outfit like 'Progressive Voices' would surely reap major rewards.

AM radio is a dwindling format, but a polished online network, mirrored on satellite radio has the potential to rebut the bagger bullshit at every twist and turn.

 

MaupitiBlue

(18 posts)
9. Woolsey
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:54 PM
Dec 2017

Am I the only one who remembers Woolsey on Hardball in early '03 telling Chris Matthews that Iraq was working on ICBM's? To his credit, Chris Matthews was incredulous, but Woolsey was adamant about it.

I resolved then and there to never believe James Woolsey.

That said, don't worry about Mueller. No pundit is going to hurt his feelings, and in the end, his report will speak for itself.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. They're after him, and us, and everybody.... I am NOT confident at this point....
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:08 AM
Dec 2017

I think now only an organized democratic national 'uprising' can stop them.
And by uprising I do not mean a violent one------------------------- yet.

We need a coordinated nationwide 'war plan' to fight back. The repubs do it all the time day after day, month after month, year after year, decade after decade....

tblue37

(65,358 posts)
51. Right wingers are great propagandists. They get their talking points and then they all
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:02 PM
Dec 2017

stay on message until new talking points come down.

They run training seminars to teach activists how to spread the propaganda. They even have RW seminars to train people to troll on social media.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
12. on notice
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:56 PM
Dec 2017

to me means possible legal or tactical public relations maneuvers

This society cannot allow logic, truth, science, rule of law to go out the window

"hopelessly compromised" 'lacking integrity' are personal value judgments

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
13. I know he is upset like all of us and using his prior position but Fox is probably laughing
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:57 PM
Dec 2017

and be like "on notice" what? A citizen's arrest threat?

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
16. With The Acquisition From Disney...
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:03 AM
Dec 2017

...I Hope Fux Noise To Become 24 hrs Of Simpsons Re-Runs.

..More Fact Based Truth From A Cartoon.

lastlib

(23,236 posts)
35. (I don't think Fox Nooze was part of that deal...)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:36 AM
Dec 2017

I think it was 20th Century Fox (movie/TV studio) (not 18th Century Fox News)

O' course, Ah could be wroung.........

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
18. Maybe it means they are gonna do a Flynn
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:15 AM
Dec 2017

and Dobbs will find himself in Turkey. However, they could really get the job done.

tableturner

(1,682 posts)
19. Top CIA people keep connected with the agency.....I think he is hinting at
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:40 AM
Dec 2017

Top CIA people keep connected with the agency, I think he is hinting at repercussions from the intelligence community. Nobody wins a back alley fight with the CIA. They know too much and they know how to weaponize it.

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
22. IMHO it means stop pissing off the intel community
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:47 AM
Dec 2017

Dodart almost immediately made enemies with the IC, even b-4 his ignoration. Schummer and others warned him, don't do this. Again, IMHO they will not idly stand by while country and constitution are ground into the dirt. They take their oath VERY seriously, unlike the dodart and his ilk

tblue37

(65,358 posts)
52. SOME don't take that oath seriously --like the NY cadre that played Comey
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:04 PM
Dec 2017

with Giuliani's assistance.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
26. He's " disappointed in Dobbs, Fox Business and Fox News"???
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 02:05 AM
Dec 2017

Does he mean they used to be accurate, truthful and fair and now have lowered their standards? "Disappointed" seems an insincere term in this case. "Disgusted" might be better.

 

PragmaticDem

(320 posts)
27. Well Woolsey played with the wolves and he got bit.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 02:21 AM
Dec 2017

He should not be surprised that the fascists don't play nice.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
32. Dobbs and Hannity are pushing fox authoritarian propoganda network
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:54 AM
Dec 2017

alternative facts (lies) about our IC. I hope this comes back to bite the entire fox operation in the ass!

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
33. Thinking about Trump
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:19 AM
Dec 2017

Going off at the FBI. This man is turning everyone in those organizations against him. We know how hard they work to keep us safe. Thousands all over the country.

Does he have any idea how hard the FBI and CIA agents will work to bring him down?

Does Trump have any idea what they will do to expose him?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
34. republicans are steadily weakening America
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:34 AM
Dec 2017

In a hundred ways, republicans are systematically undermining America's security and well being.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
36. Yes, and that is what
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:49 AM
Dec 2017

Is so terrifying.

We have a USSC that turned our elections into a mockery. A corrupt Republican Party that has lost all sense of morality.

Unless something changes in the next election I see us as a third world country,ruled by Dictatorial despots. Meanwhile serious damage is done.

We are already well on the way with this corrupt Congress,who have given up all pretense of helping us. They have even admitted this tax bill is pay off to their donors.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
45. Does he have dirt on Dobbs? Murdoch?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 11:40 AM
Dec 2017

Unless he does, the threat is meaningless.

And if he does, why hasn't something been done before now?

It's obscene what the wealthy get away with now. We have regressed to robber-baron days.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
46. 'Fox news' is registered
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:36 PM
Dec 2017

"Fact:'Fox news'is registered; ENTERTAINMENT program w/FCC, like Duck Dynasty& Honey BooBoo(which are funny at least)"

they are not a licensed News media outlet Mueller needs to subpoena Hannity and Judge Jeanine they seem to know so much


If fox news took $1 from Russia they should go on trial for acts of treason. This is not normal. Our FBI and Democracy is under attack by Trump & his lunatic followers.

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