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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 02:33 PM Dec 2017

Glowing Auras and Black Money: The Pentagons Mysterious U.F.O. Program

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find.

Which was how the Pentagon wanted it.

For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.

The Defense Department has never before acknowledged the existence of the program, which it says it shut down in 2012. But its backers say that, while the Pentagon ended funding for the effort at that time, the program remains in existence. For the past five years, they say, officials with the program have continued to investigate episodes brought to them by service members, while also carrying out their other Defense Department duties.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?src=twr%3Fsmid%3Dfb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes







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Glowing Auras and Black Money: The Pentagons Mysterious U.F.O. Program (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 OP
Guess who was (strike)born(/strike) arrived in 1947 Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #1
This one is well worth the click through. longship Dec 2017 #2
This explains why the X Files came back. Corgigal Dec 2017 #3
K&R highplainsdem Dec 2017 #4
We are being primed for some sort of disclosure. roamer65 Dec 2017 #5
My thought as well. bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #6
Again? Archae Dec 2017 #8
LOL snooper2 Dec 2017 #16
Here we go again... Archae Dec 2017 #7
I thought some of the information about that project was quite interesting. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #9
To date, the whole UFO "culture" is one colossal boondoggle. As a whole. Archae Dec 2017 #10
If you believe there are other civilizations, then yes there may be some Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11
President Carter's UFO experience... I asked him directly masmdu Dec 2017 #12
Kudos! sandensea Dec 2017 #13
There were also an active disinformation campaign... TomVilmer Dec 2017 #14
This is government waste. This right here. alarimer Dec 2017 #15

Archae

(46,328 posts)
7. Here we go again...
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:17 PM
Dec 2017

Decades ago, the CIA (I think it was the CIA) had a "remote viewing" project, that actually accomplished zilch.

Millions of $$$ down a rat hole.

Same here.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
9. I thought some of the information about that project was quite interesting.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

I think the military is interested in UFOs for a number of reasons,
but yes, could be using it as a boondoggle.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
10. To date, the whole UFO "culture" is one colossal boondoggle. As a whole.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:15 PM
Dec 2017

Are there civilizations on other worlds?

It's possible.

But they are going to send their spaceships umpty-quintillion miles, just to fly around scaring the hicks?

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
11. If you believe there are other civilizations, then yes there may be some
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:28 PM
Dec 2017

who are quite advanced. And they might have mastered interstellar travel.

Why they would be visiting us is a good question. What is their purpose?
Visiting such a primitive culture as we have here on Earth is a puzzle.

Unless it is the intergalactic peace corp sending help.

Edited to add: Or tourists visiting the zoo.

masmdu

(2,536 posts)
12. President Carter's UFO experience... I asked him directly
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:35 PM
Dec 2017

President Carter was a professor of mine in 1987. I asked him directly to speak to our class about his reported UFO sitting and he said, "I can not speak about that." and asked that the subject not be brought up again.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
13. Kudos!
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:48 PM
Dec 2017

And thanks for sharing that anecdote. Very telling.

To me, the most credible explanation as to why governments - particularly ours - are so damned cagey about the whole subject, is that the military brass are convinced that off-world visitors and their know-how can somehow be exploited for military use.

If true, that would have to be the silliest, most asinine reason ever concocted for anything. It would be like two ants debating how best to manipulate humans and all our gadgetry to win the next anthill war.

Such is the world.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
14. There were also an active disinformation campaign...
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 07:10 AM
Dec 2017
See Mark Pilkington’s 2010 book "Mirage Men". Pilkington alleges that many of the stories we’ve heard about alien visitors and flying saucers are part of a deliberate campaign of disinformation created by intelligence agencies to cover up secret military technology and clandestine operations.

These “mirage men” have manipulated some UFO believers to the point of madness and beyond through the use of fabricated “evidence” and psychological warfare techniques, all in the name of national security. The 1950 RAND document about the use of superstitions in psychological warfare, and the recent Snowden-leaked powerpoint ‘The Art of Deception’ are pretty much as close as we have to that at the moment.

http://disinfo.com/2014/04/interview-mark-pilkington-ufo-documentary-mirage-men-games-intel-agencies-play/
https://books.google.dk/books?id=FjWfBAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=da&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

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... but that is what they wants us to believe .

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
15. This is government waste. This right here.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 10:08 AM
Dec 2017

I know the pentagon spends money like water on a lot of useless crap. But this is complete and utter bullshit.

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