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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:13 AM Dec 2017

Poll: Trump's approval rating hits historic low of 35 percent

Source: Politico



By LOUIS NELSON 12/19/2017 09:20 AM EST

Nearly one year after his inauguration, President Donald Trump’s approval rating sits at 35 percent, according to a new poll released Tuesday by CNN, a historic low for a commander-in-chief in the December of his first year in office.

The 35 percent approval rating is Trump’s worst mark yet in CNN polling. Fifty-nine percent of respondents said they disapprove of the way Trump has handled his job as president. Before Trump, no president dating back to Dwight Eisenhower ever had an approval rating lower than 49 percent in December of their first year in office.

The Real Clear Politics polling average for Trump’s job approval rating, which does not include the CNN poll released Tuesday, sits at 38 percent.

The tax reform package championed by Trump that is currently nearing completion on Capitol Hill also polled poorly among respondents to the CNN survey. Fifty-five percent of those polled said they oppose the tax reform plan, a 10 percent increase over last month. One in three respondents said they support the measure.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/poll-trump-approval-ratings-304742

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Poll: Trump's approval rating hits historic low of 35 percent (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Why Do Articles LIke THis Keep Being Written Me. Dec 2017 #1
Historic low for the CNN polling underpants Dec 2017 #3
Except They KNow Better Me. Dec 2017 #4
Your cnn links referred to a Pew poll, not a CNN poll estefanyo Dec 2017 #5
However Me. Dec 2017 #7
you can't compare pollster's.. only poll's by the same org.... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #8
So It's A 'Historic' Rating For That Particular Poll Only Me. Dec 2017 #12
maybe not... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #13
We'll Have To Disagree Here Me. Dec 2017 #15
What some may see as disingenuous, others may see as a relative measure LanternWaste Dec 2017 #16
You erroneously believed that the CNN article on Pew referred to a CNN poll estefanyo Dec 2017 #17
Not Confused At All, Thank You Very Much Me. Dec 2017 #18
Gallup in August: "Trump Job Approval Rating Now at 34%, New Low" estefanyo Dec 2017 #20
Potato/Patato Me. Dec 2017 #22
BINGO!!!! KPN Dec 2017 #10
CNN never found it to be 32% estefanyo Dec 2017 #21
Why so damn high? Oh yeah!!!!! ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2017 #2
We are being held hostage by assholes dalton99a Dec 2017 #6
yup, 75% of republicans still say he is doing a good job..... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #9
Yup ... and that equals just 21% of the voting population of KPN Dec 2017 #11
that would be the 0.1% club.... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #14
Correction: that w/b the .0001% club. KPN Dec 2017 #19

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. Why Do Articles LIke THis Keep Being Written
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:22 AM
Dec 2017

The historic low was 32% the week of De. 9. Yet 'historic low' articles keep being churned out.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
3. Historic low for the CNN polling
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:33 AM
Dec 2017

I think that's what they meant.

You're right he was at 29 and the tracking polls are being warped by outliers like Rasmussen and an Economist poll in the 40's.

 

estefanyo

(21 posts)
5. Your cnn links referred to a Pew poll, not a CNN poll
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:03 PM
Dec 2017

underpants is correct. CNN is speaking for its own polls.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. However
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:21 PM
Dec 2017

If you google 32%, you will see an entire page of the same poll results for that time, and CNN knows this, whether it was their poll or not. They are after all in the news business. Claiming it as a new low is deceptive.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
8. you can't compare pollster's.. only poll's by the same org....
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:29 PM
Dec 2017

Their methodology is completely different. That would mean you could just as easily pick the highest poll in the pack, compare it to a lower one previously, and say his polling is improving.

The only way you can establish a trend is with the same poll over time, or average a group of them together and look at that group over time.

You know what they mean; it's a new low for that one poll.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
13. maybe not...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:20 PM
Dec 2017

but hardly insignificant. The fact that every poll has been going down relative to itself is significant. The fact that one is currently at 46% and another is at 32% isn't.

They are all htting new lows. That is the significant part.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
15. We'll Have To Disagree Here
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:33 PM
Dec 2017

I see these historic new low articles as click bait and next week we'll see another 'historic' new low. I consider it disingenuous to say the least.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. What some may see as disingenuous, others may see as a relative measure
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:45 PM
Dec 2017

What some may see as disingenuous, others may see as merely a relative measurement lacking any indication or evidence of click-bait (as 'historic' in this context validly fits well within the parameters of correct usage: noting or pertaining to analysis based on a comparison among several periods of development of a phenomenon...&quot .

 

estefanyo

(21 posts)
17. You erroneously believed that the CNN article on Pew referred to a CNN poll
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

I think you're not admitting that you were confused. You are switching arguments. You refuted the argument of someone who pointed out that CNN was referring to CNN trends.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
18. Not Confused At All, Thank You Very Much
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:05 PM
Dec 2017

The article was misleading about where things stand with this president's approval. They're not ignorant of what's going on outside of themselves and assuredly know, that more than a number of polls reported a NEW LOw at 32% the week of the 7th and while they got a different % with their poll nearly two weeks later, it is not, under any circumstances a new low.

 

estefanyo

(21 posts)
20. Gallup in August: "Trump Job Approval Rating Now at 34%, New Low"
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:14 PM
Dec 2017

At the end of this thread, you will have trashed a lot of pollsters.
Gallup did what CNN did (the right thing). Compare apples to apples. Your "apples vs. oranges" technique is a one-man thing.
http://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/216125/trump-job-approval-rating-new-low.aspx

KPN

(15,646 posts)
10. BINGO!!!!
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:03 PM
Dec 2017

My thoughts exactly. I'm tired of these "new historic low approval rating articles" that have wandered between 32 and 36 percent the past 6 months.

I can only hope they are published to annoy the Trumpster himself.

 

estefanyo

(21 posts)
21. CNN never found it to be 32%
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:16 PM
Dec 2017

Why should they trust other pollsters over their own pollster and methodology?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
2. Why so damn high? Oh yeah!!!!!
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:24 AM
Dec 2017


The die hard Nazis who still support Trump, those voters who still believe they are going to be in high cotton with all the winning Trump is going to do.

Almost a year into his first term, Barack Obama was near 60% job approval rating. Several pieces of Legislation was voted on and signed into law that included the Stimulus that stopped the bleeding of job losses and began the 7 year job growth that continues to this day. Thanks Obama!

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
9. yup, 75% of republicans still say he is doing a good job.....
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:31 PM
Dec 2017

and they are 28% of the electorate. Give or take a few points. The rest is made up of red independent voters or tea party types who don't identify as R.

But that 75% is who will pick candidates in the primaries, so they still have a loud bark when it comes to congress critters.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
11. Yup ... and that equals just 21% of the voting population of
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:19 PM
Dec 2017

America. We are being held hostage by the Mercer and the Koch Bros, their brethren in Russia and their hired gun clowns in DC.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
14. that would be the 0.1% club....
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:23 PM
Dec 2017

The 21% is just what they can manipulate easily. There is another 20+% they have to work a little harder to get, but they can still get them.

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