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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:16 AM Dec 2017

Trump slams FBI, Clinton for 'garbage' dossier

Source: The Hill




BY JOSH DELK - 12/26/17 09:01 AM EST

President Trump on Tuesday lashed out at the FBI and the Clinton campaign on the Russia dossier compiled against him and his 2016 campaign.




The dossier, a compilation of opposition research against the 2016 Trump campaign, was partly funded by Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It included several incendiary claims against Trump and his campaign that have loomed around his presidency.

While the research for the dossier was originally aimed at finding information on the entire field of GOP candidates, it alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Moscow that eventually became the focus of the project.

Some Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee, which has investigated witnesses in connection with the dossier, have begun to probe into the FBI and Justice Department handling of the look into incendiary claims included in the document.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/366467-trump-slams-fbi-and-clinton-for-dossier-claims
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Trump slams FBI, Clinton for 'garbage' dossier (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
me thinks... keroro gunsou Dec 2017 #1
So evident he's trying to hide. His deflection is wearing thin. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #3
Very thin... but also fun to watch the Traitor-in-Chief squirm. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #9
Oh yes PatSeg Dec 2017 #4
He tries to bully all of the powerful investigative agencies, the FBI, CIA, NSA and also the UN etc. RKP5637 Dec 2017 #10
Absolutely PatSeg Dec 2017 #13
Yep, he thinks he's working shady real estate deals. He's can't comprehend that the world sees RKP5637 Dec 2017 #14
The FBI needs to be proving that the dossier is real without Trump's encouragement. EL34x4 Dec 2017 #17
This is true PatSeg Dec 2017 #22
If He's denying it....... mitch96 Dec 2017 #21
When did The Hill become The Shill? RVN VET71 Dec 2017 #2
What about the foreign intelligence confirmations of certain aspects?? Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #5
He has to attack the truth duforsure Dec 2017 #6
But unverified does not mean false. Historic NY Dec 2017 #7
Putin has the evidence of his despecable behavior and has Trump by the balls. olegramps Dec 2017 #8
To politicize due diligence by a former secretary of state is fake news. ancianita Dec 2017 #11
#fakenews. stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #12
whinging trusty elf Dec 2017 #15
Striking a Nerve BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #16
Patience, Mr. President, Patience Mr. Ected Dec 2017 #18
The Trump bots are working overtime on Twitter to suppress these THREADS: L. Coyote Dec 2017 #19
"Russia, if you're listening ...." bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #20
Oh well if FOX says so it must be true NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #23
All I can say is that if DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #24
Trump's attempted discrediting of the dossier is noted SkatmanRoth Dec 2017 #25

keroro gunsou

(2,223 posts)
1. me thinks...
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:17 AM
Dec 2017

he is protesting a wee bit too much... hard to tell though, given what a whiney little bitch he is usually.

PatSeg

(47,555 posts)
4. Oh yes
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:26 AM
Dec 2017

Way too much. I would think he is just encouraging the FBI that much more to prove the dossier is real. I can't imagine how stupid you'd have to be to provoke the FBI.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
10. He tries to bully all of the powerful investigative agencies, the FBI, CIA, NSA and also the UN etc.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:07 AM
Dec 2017

And the list goes on and on. He's a stupid little man, a total loser.

PatSeg

(47,555 posts)
13. Absolutely
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:32 AM
Dec 2017

He is using tactics that worked on little people, with no power and few resources, but will only inspire these investigative agencies to pursue him and use every tool they have to bring him down. I am sure that every snarky remark and tweet only fuels their resolve and motivates them to work harder. What a total dumb ass!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
14. Yep, he thinks he's working shady real estate deals. He's can't comprehend that the world sees
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:39 AM
Dec 2017

through him and his childlike behavior.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
17. The FBI needs to be proving that the dossier is real without Trump's encouragement.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:17 PM
Dec 2017

At some point in the very near future, someone in Congress is going to demand they give up the goods on it.

PatSeg

(47,555 posts)
22. This is true
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 02:48 PM
Dec 2017

It might be better if Trump didn't realize how much they've uncovered, but I suppose it puts pressure on others from the campaign and administration to be more forthcoming out of self-preservation.

I am sure true professionals will do what must be done with or without Trump's attacks, but his childish tantrums and put downs must energize them to uncover the truth.

Freethinker65

(10,033 posts)
5. What about the foreign intelligence confirmations of certain aspects??
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:29 AM
Dec 2017

Manafort? Flynn? Those “Russian adoption” meetings, then you claiming to know damning info about Hillary was coming within days? Your public pleas to Russia to help you? Your friend Mr. Assange? Roger Stone’s time in the barrel comment? Guiliani’s comment about having inside FBI info?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. He has to attack the truth
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:41 AM
Dec 2017

Its the only way HIS propaganda will work. Then criminalize his opposition, like Putin does.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
8. Putin has the evidence of his despecable behavior and has Trump by the balls.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:54 AM
Dec 2017

Trump doesn't dare criticize Putin or he will be brought down. Virtually every criticism of Russia by his own cabinet has been contradicted by Trump. Why? The logical answer is they have extremely compromising information on the Sexual Predator and Chief. I would be willing to bet that eventually the information will be released. But only when it is to Russia's advantage. Therefore it may be years before the truth is fully known.

ancianita

(36,129 posts)
11. To politicize due diligence by a former secretary of state is fake news.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:08 AM
Dec 2017

It's apropos that Clinton, having been Secretary of State and privy to classified intel, would have the DNC kickstart compiling of info/reports on foreign cyberspying and election interference, since she was best positioned to know of reports from the 16 agencies that it had been going on for some time.

Beyond that, so what if the DNC paid for oppo research. ANYone with classified intelligence access could have kickstarted investigations of foreign cyberspying, which then would lead to evidence of aiding and abetting foreign activities endangering the interests of the U.S, corroborated by the 16 agencies, who would then have turned the info over to the FBI, who'd then determine its actionable legal scrutiny.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
18. Patience, Mr. President, Patience
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:24 PM
Dec 2017

Mr. Mueller is working up a nice surprise for you.

Don't despair.

He's got the proof you're looking for.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. The Trump bots are working overtime on Twitter to suppress these THREADS:
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:24 PM
Dec 2017

My OP from:
THREAD regarding: FBI used the Steele dossier to get FISAs



3. (It's worth noting in that previous article that Steele apparently believed that there was a cabal in the FBI *preventing* the dossier from reaching the top, and it also suggests that he contacted @DavidCornDC about its contents. But I'll let reporters sort out those details.)


6. The DOJ lawyers who help prepare the FISA applications take this VERY seriously. Like, even if you had a common-knowledge assertion, like "Country X is a state-sponsor of terrorism," they make you include a cite (preferably two) supporting it. They want every fact airtight.

7. The Steele dossier is "raw intelligence." It contains reporting from third party sources -- meaning it is basically hearsay. So the FBI can't just staple the dossier to a cover sheet that says "GIVE ME A FISA" and be done with it.

8. To use any or all of the dossier, the FBI would have to provide independent verification and corroboration of each fact that would be included in the application. This could mean first-hand witness statements, actual recordings from electronic surveillance, etc.

9. In other words, if the FBI *did* use the contents of the dossier to obtain a FISA, then by definition those contents are true, corroborated, and independently verifiable. Remember that the application is presented to an Article III judge -- a judicial check -- before granted.

10. This does not seem like the road Trump supporters want to be going down...and yet they are. It's so bizarre. And to underscore: To claim that this was a huge conspiracy is ALSO directly implicating members of the judiciary (who could be Republican appointees) without basis.

P.S. In tweet #2 *he* refers to Steele -- I was cutting down this sentence to fit and omitted him as the original referent

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
20. "Russia, if you're listening ...."
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:32 PM
Dec 2017

They didn't have to verify anything. You did it for them, you stupid pompous a$$.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
23. Oh well if FOX says so it must be true
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 02:49 PM
Dec 2017

I thought he was playing golf today. Do they keep him constantly updated on what they're saying on Fox?

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
24. All I can say is that if
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 05:03 PM
Dec 2017

Trump et all are working this hard to discredit Steele's info, then it must be true or very close to it.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
25. Trump's attempted discrediting of the dossier is noted
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 05:46 PM
Dec 2017

It must be total poison to him. The dossier is what he fears will take him down.

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