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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:22 AM Dec 2017

Trump doubles down on false claim about repealing ACA

Source: Axios




The president this morning, rehashing his claim from last week that tax cuts "essentially" end the Affordable Care Act:




Why it matters: The Trump administration has used regulations to expand access to inexpensive, short-term plans that cover less. That could increase the effects from getting rid of the mandate.

But, but, but: Left intact from the ACA are subsidies for millions of Americans on the exchanges, essential health benefits that mandate what plans must cover, Medicaid expansion and the rules that let parents keep children on their plans until the age of 26. [Go deeper]

Read more: https://www.axios.com/trump-has-spent-a-third-of-his-time-in-office-at-his-properties-2520057995.html
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no_hypocrisy

(46,150 posts)
1. ACA subscribers have the option of suing the WH if it interferes with the execution
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:26 AM
Dec 2017

of the federal statute.

And for all we know, Trump's saying this because that's what his staff told him.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Hard to deny that GOPers have severely damaged the ACA. Although I have read that the
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:27 AM
Dec 2017

Mandate was not as important as it was intended because a lot of healthy people -- who didn't want the insurance -- just paid the fine, which was substantially less than the premiums.

mobeau69

(11,149 posts)
7. This doesn't seem to be worded correctly.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:23 AM
Dec 2017

Not sure what you're trying to say but the mandate is critical.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. It means that losing the Mandate may not change the way things are currently
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:40 AM
Dec 2017

because premiums being charged at this moment are based upon a insured base that doesn't include as many healthy people as originally envisioned in 2010.

If there were millions of healthy individuals in the ACA pool -- who could now drop out -- premiums would sky rocket. I think the current projections are that premiums might increase 10% on average because of removal of the Mandate. Heck, before the ACA, premiums were increasing annually a lot more than that.

Originally, the Mandate made sense. But, we have found out that a lot of healthy people weren't persuaded to buy ACA policies because the penalty was so low in comparison to premiums.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. The original idea was that the penalties...
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 07:57 PM
Dec 2017

would eventually match the cost of an insurance policy - insurance being the better option.

It all started unraveling when the Supreme Court made Medicaid expansion optional per state.

The most Republican aspect of the Affordable Care Act - making those who can least afford it and have the slightest need pay into it so it's cheaper for those who need it and usually can most afford it - is celebrated as a victory. Real idiots.

Freethinker65

(10,029 posts)
3. Trump had this whole thing solved. Ready to go on day one.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:32 AM
Dec 2017

Easy. Only he can save us.

He has no plan to provide healthcare, never did, never will. And still they voted for him.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
4. LOL....this is the part where Trumpanzies will BS their fellow knuckle draggers....
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:37 AM
Dec 2017

that they DUMPED Obummer care on Jan 1 when in fact they were probably some of the first who signed up for 2018 coverage during the enrollment period. Those asshats aren't fooling me for a second when it comes to THEIR money and ridiculous health care premiums.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
5. Even the uninsured are treated for emergencies by hospitals.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 10:43 AM
Dec 2017

Under a new, great Republican plan, this shit has GOT to STOP! No insurance, no money, no service!

Casts and sutures don't grow on trees, ya know!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. During Christmas Holidays...
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:18 AM
Dec 2017

Bragging about how he's screwing over millions of people! We've not seen his lowest yet.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
10. At least he can afford to build a discoteque over his grave.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:31 PM
Dec 2017

Because when that son of a bitch dies, it's going to be S.R.O. in there.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
11. So can Insurance
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 07:48 PM
Dec 2017

companies now sell non-ACA compliant healthcare plans ? and if so won't that seriously screw up the market place when healthier people start seeing they can get much cheaper plans than what are available under the ACA ?

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