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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 12:58 PM Dec 2017

Two men arrested in the horrific murder of a lesbian family

Source: LGBTQ Nation


James White (left) and Justin Mann Troy Police Department



By Alex Bollinger · Saturday, December 30, 2017

Police announced early this morning that two men were arrested for a quadruple homicide that claimed the lives of a lesbian couple and their two kids.

Justin C. Mann, 24, and James White, 38, both face four charges of first- and second-degree murder. They have both entered pleas of not guilty.

Shanta Myers, 36, her two children Shanise, 5, and Jeremiah, 11, and her partner Brandi Mells, 22, were found dead in their home in Troy, New York, the day after Christmas. Investigators believe they were killed the previous Thursday, December 21.


From left: Shanise Myers, Jeremiah Myers, Brandi Mells, and Shanta Myers

Their family got worried when they didn’t answer the phone, so they asked the property manager to check on them. Police arrived to find the four bound with their throats slit.







Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/12/two-men-arrested-horrific-murder-lesbian-family/

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Two men arrested in the horrific murder of a lesbian family (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Thank goodness and I hope they get quick and fair trial with appropriately multiple life with no ... marble falls Dec 2017 #1
They should be tried not only for hate crimes - but as TERRORISTS! JohnQFunk Dec 2017 #2
That would be injustice n/t Jeroen Dec 2017 #4
Why? uppityperson Dec 2017 #15
The policy are still still searching for a motive Jeroen Dec 2017 #18
I agree. bitterross Dec 2017 #13
Oh agree, this is absolutely terrorism! Initech Dec 2017 #14
Give them a fair trial & throw away the key. nt 7962 Dec 2017 #3
99% of the time I oppose the death penalty. NickB79 Dec 2017 #5
The age difference between the two suspects melman Dec 2017 #6
Any hint of a motive? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #7
Could be the ex-partner of one of them or the father of the kids. meadowlander Dec 2017 #12
Some type of jealous rage. alphafemale Dec 2017 #17
Good 'Christian' men who believe in death to homosexuals - from the Bible? keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #8
I think we can be pretty sure this had nothing to do with religion melman Dec 2017 #9
Why? uppityperson Dec 2017 #16
no, we cannot be sure Skittles Dec 2017 #20
A lot of projection going on here RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #21
Give them life in prison with no chance of Parole......... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2017 #10
Now they're saying the younger suspect was friends with the younger adult victim melman Dec 2017 #11
2 men charged in deaths of women, children found in home Judi Lynn Dec 2017 #19
How about we wait until we know more? potone Dec 2017 #22

marble falls

(57,172 posts)
1. Thank goodness and I hope they get quick and fair trial with appropriately multiple life with no ...
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:01 PM
Dec 2017

parole sentences.

JohnQFunk

(409 posts)
2. They should be tried not only for hate crimes - but as TERRORISTS!
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:12 PM
Dec 2017

If there were any justice… Mann and White are just as bad as any garden-variety terrorist killing in the name of jihad.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
13. I agree.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:48 PM
Dec 2017

US code does include this in the definition:

...the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

These acts not only intend to deprive these people of their liberty and lives, but do, usually, intend to serve as a "warning" to others of the civil population. Warning not to be LGBGQ or face the consequences. That sure seems to fall under the meaning of B, i.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
6. The age difference between the two suspects
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:54 PM
Dec 2017

is the same as the age difference between the two adult victims. I wonder if that's just a coincidence or maybe a clue of some kind.

meadowlander

(4,402 posts)
12. Could be the ex-partner of one of them or the father of the kids.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

Dumped boyfriend/husband who couldn't deal with ex-girlfriend/wife being a lesbian and raising the kids in a same-sex household?

Catching them so quickly suggests a family connection rather than a random stranger.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
17. Some type of jealous rage.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 04:53 PM
Dec 2017

Probably made her watch the children and her partner die before her.

ultimate cruelty....for wounded male pride.

keithbvadu2

(36,887 posts)
8. Good 'Christian' men who believe in death to homosexuals - from the Bible?
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:07 PM
Dec 2017

Good 'Christian' men who believe in death to homosexuals - from the Bible?

Sarcasm? Can't be sure.

Even if they were of another faith, we have Christians here who will rationalize the killings.

Sick!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
10. Give them life in prison with no chance of Parole.........
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:28 PM
Dec 2017

Let the general population deal with them. Those who rape or kill kids are at the bottom of the prison food chain. Even the hard core lifers have standards and families.
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
11. Now they're saying the younger suspect was friends with the younger adult victim
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:51 PM
Dec 2017


One of Myers’ family members told The Daily Beast that Mells was buddies with Mann, who is now accused of butchering her and her girlfriend’s family.

“I never seen him before a day in my life, neither of them,” Shanta Myers' nephew Khalif Coleman said. “But some of my family members recognize him as Brandi’s friend. He supposedly always hung out with her.”



https://www.thedailybeast.com/murder-suspect-in-troy-new-york-quadruple-slaying-was-friends-with-victim-family-member-says?ref=home

Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
19. 2 men charged in deaths of women, children found in home
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 09:38 PM
Dec 2017

Updated 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 30, 2017

TROY, N.Y. (AP) — Two men were arrested Saturday on murder charges in the deaths of two women and two children who were found dead in their upstate New York apartment.

Justin Mann and James White were arrested in their hometown, Schenectady, and pleaded not guilty in Troy City Court.

According to the Times Union , Troy Police Chief John Tedesco said one of the defendants knew one of the victims. He declined to elaborate.

Information given in court said the killings took place at about 9 p.m., Dec. 21. It wasn't until Tuesday, five days later, that a property manager found 36-year-old Shanta Myers; her children, 11-year-old Jeremiah Myers and 5-year-old Shanise Myers; and 22-year-old Brandi Mells in a basement apartment along the Hudson River, just north of Albany. Meyers and Mells became engaged earlier this year, Mells' cousin, Sharonda Bennett, told the newspaper.

More:
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Police-2-suspects-arrested-in-New-York-quadruple-12463427.php

potone

(1,701 posts)
22. How about we wait until we know more?
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 02:03 AM
Dec 2017

I am not disputing the horror of the crime, but the reason for it is not yet clear.

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