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alp227

(32,047 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:50 PM Aug 2012

Families of Iran's murdered nuclear scientists sue Israel, US and Britain

Source: The Guardian

The families of murdered Iranian nuclear scientists have filed a lawsuit against Israel, the US and the UK, accusing them of involvement in assassination.

Rahim Ahmadi Roshan, whose son, Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, a chemistry expert and director of the Natanz uranium enrichment facility, was killed in a bomb attack in January, told a press conference in Tehran that the families had asked Iran's judiciary to pursue their complaint through international bodies and bring those behind the killings to justice.

"We've filed an indictment against the Zionist regime and the arrogant powers," Roshan said. The judiciary "is to pursue this case with the relevant international bodies", he added.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/15/iran-murdered-nuclear-scientists

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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
1. no
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:14 PM
Aug 2012

i have no feelings for any individual, unless he/she see the error of their way, who create weapons of mass destruction. I don't like the fact and am horrified that ANY country needs these weapons. They are not instrumental in assuring the longevity and health of all living creatures.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
4. We have no evidence that Iran is involved in any weapons of mass destruction program
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:44 PM
Aug 2012

The countries that are allegedly involved in the scientists murders are involved in weapons of mass destruction programs. These countries are trying to maintain their monopolies on nukes so that they can continue to bully Iran. In this case it is better that Iran gets nukes.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. point
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:42 PM
Aug 2012

you missed my real point, you can be for Iran getting nuclear weapons till you're blue in the face. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THESE HORRIBLE WEAPONS. That's what's wrong with stinking thinking, oneupsmanship is the order of the day.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
12. So you'd be okay with our nuclear scientists being murdered...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:36 AM
Aug 2012

...do I have that right? Maybe as a concerned citizen on this issue, you should consider your options...

Also, I must point out that the poster to whom you replied did not say anything about being "for Iran getting nuclear weapons" -- rather, they noted that there is no hard evidence that Iran has or is building nuclear weapons. That was a very underhanded response on your part.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
17. you
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

you don't know whether there is hard evidence or not concerning Iran's nuclear bomb ambitions. Nothing is underhanded in discussions that concern all of humanity, but as I told the other, you are entitled to your line of reasoning. Okay on to other things. bye.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
18. Of course I don't have hard evidence...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:05 PM
Aug 2012

...one way or the other, about Iran's nuclear program.

I do know that the U.S. has the most extensive arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world. France has nukes, Pakistan has thnukesem, Russia has nukes, North Korea has nukes, Israel has nukes, and many others have them.

By your logic, all of us should be A-Okay with nuclear engineers in all of those countries being assassinated, because your ONLY interest in this is that NO ONE should have such awful weapons.

Yes, your contention that the poster was advocating for Iran to have nuclear weapons was underhanded and anyone who reads this exchange can see that very clearly.

'Bye yourself.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
6. No. It is not good for Iran to have nukes at all. The Mullahs of Tehran cannot be trusted. Period.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:25 PM
Aug 2012

I am NOT a fan of Israel, however, I do not believe Tel Aviv would ever use a first-strike nuclear capability. I do NOT believe the same of Tehran. At this point in time, I fear Islamic fundamentalist terrorism far more than I fear Jewish fundamentalist terrorism.

And I'm sorry.... You and I may not have evidence that Iran is involved in programs to develop weapons of mass destruction, but I do believe both the United States and Israel do.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
7. Both the US and Israel have bad histories of aggressive war
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:34 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Iran does not.

US intelligence services say that they have no evidence that Iran is developing nukes, and they are the ones that would know. All of the accusations in both the US and Israel are just domestic politics. Iran doesn't suck-up to the West, so they make a convenient enemy.

Our interference in Iran is what lead to their theocracy in the first place. We also supported Saddam's unprovoked war against Iran. Iran has good reason to fear us. We should stay out of their business for a change.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
8. I completely agree in that we should stay out of Iran's business EXCEPT for the nuclear weapons...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:57 PM
Aug 2012

...issue.

As to the issue of Iran developing nuclear weapons:

"Iran’s nuclear program is one of the most polarizing issues in one of the world’s most volatile regions. While American and European officials believe Tehran is planning to build nuclear weapons, Iran’s leadership says that its goal in developing a nuclear program is to generate electricity without dipping into the oil supply it prefers to sell abroad, and to provide fuel for medical reactors."

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iran/nuclear_program/index.html

The above was a brief except from today's New York Times.

The last thing ANYONE in the Middle East wants to see is a nuclear-armed Iran.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. all
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:51 AM
Aug 2012

all of what you say is history. nothing can be done about it. I'm in real time, TODAY, and their bomb program will just add to the extreme volatility of the region. Wake up, smell the radiation!

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
14. The current volatility regarding Iran (and elsewhere) is driven by the US and Israel
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:36 AM
Aug 2012

Both the US and Israel are, TODAY, aggressive nations with nukes. Iran is neither aggressive nor possessing of nukes, and there is no evidence that they are developing nukes.

Supporting aggressive actions by nuke possessing aggressive nations only makes the situation in the ME much worse - it's imperial arrogance.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
9. You think Robert Oppenheimer should have been murdered in cold blood? OK...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:38 AM
Aug 2012

And these scientists are not even comparable to Oppenheimer because, unlike him, we don't even know for sure if they were working on bomb. Even a if a nuclear bomb is being developed, nuclear facilities are a comprehensive thing and there could be many scientists working in areas that have nothing to do with weaponization.

It is one thing to appose a(alleged) weapons program. It is another to advocate cold blooded murder. Care to reconcile your extreme views towards these Iranian scientists with their American counterparts?

On topic, I have a feeling that the perpetrators were actually anti-government Iranians. Possibly working with a foreign power. But not necessarily needing to.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. so
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:45 AM
Aug 2012

you think nuclear weapons are a necessary component of human existence. Is this what you're saying? "We have become death", your motto

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
13. Not at all. I believe in nuclear disarmament of all countries
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:55 AM
Aug 2012

But people were murdered here. To say 'no' to there being any sort of justice for them and their families is some kind of weird comic book anti-villain "gotta burn the world to save it" logic.

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