One visit to the Athabasca glaciers and you could see it for yourself (they have an exhibit). In the years with heavy pollution (eg. during world wars), the glaciers retreated faster.

between them and the US.

the other is direct observation by good scientists...not obstructed by politicians with an agenda of denial

...with Harper being the exception in recent years..he's trying to hide the real damage being done by the tar Sands by messing with funding & such for research up in that area.

He'll be gone soon though..losing support daily & can't quite bully his way through legislation & such now.

of the rest of the U.S. corporate media has been complicit in the denial and obfuscation of global warming climate change science for far too long albeit on a more subtle level.

The science has been decades ahead of the corporate media in regards to this issue.

In fact I would argue most of the semi-respected corporate media's actions have been even more damaging as their pseudo journalistic integrity; when compared to FOX, would have more influence on muddying up the picture instead of clarifying it for people of reason.

I do tend to equate the poor quality and outright lying of all of our media to Fox news. I consider that the news is the main reason that this coup of the US has been able to happen and consider almost all of them traitors to the US.

when your country has a law that prohibits broadcast news networks from lying.

...in 8th grade science class in the late 1980s (in Canada). It was not presented as controversial information.

Thanks for the thread, alp.

don't actually deny climate change...they deny man-made climate change. lol they always say earth has historically proven that there are weather cycles that span over thousands of years, and we (mankind) are not causing it. AFTER ALL THERE WERE ICE AGES... lol i always laugh and walk off.

I'd have an easier time teaching a tree to talk than convincing these fools to get their heads out of the sand.

They also are afraid the Muslims are out to get us all and murder us in our sleep.

They follow the SUN NEWS (FOX NEWS North)

I live within walking distance of the Canadian border and have some good friends and extended family in that great Dominion. A wonderful country; I'd visit more often except that I hate the hardcase treatment I get from CBP coming back (I rarely have any trouble with CBSA).

Most of them that I know are aghast at attitudes here...how so many of us consider being without health care a "virtue," among others.

I remember reading that some years ago a destroyer from the Royal Canadian Navy negotiated an ice-free passage of the high Arctic for the first time...in winter.

Of course, one can't generalise about an entire nation, especially as one as big and diverse as Canada, but in the main I have found them to be MUCH more open-minded and at least willing to LISTEN to other opinions than too many of us are.

The American Tories who fled to Ontario after the Revolution must have been on to something.

I think that every time I look across the river and see the Canadian flag, the Ontario Red Ensign and occasionally the Union Jack waving in the Canadian breeze...