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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:44 AM Jan 2018

Trump is Killing Tourism to U.S., Industry Analysts Say

Source: Newsweek Magazine




TRUMP'S ANTI-IMMIGRATION RHETORIC, POLICIES KILLING TOURISM TO THE U.S., INDUSTRY ANALYSTS SAY

BY NICOLE RODRIGUEZ ON 1/6/18 AT 7:30 AM

Tourism is suffering a “Trump slump,” industry analysts say.

President Donald Trump’s anti-immigration rhetoric and policies have kept millions of people from visiting the U.S. from other countries and cost the U.S. economy potentially billions of dollars, the analysts told Newsweek.

After Trump was inaugurated, the number of international tourists visiting the U.S. dropped by nearly 4 percent in the first half of 2017 versus the same period the previous year, according to the latest data from the U.S. National Travel and Tourism Office and the U.S. Department of Commerce. Tourism insiders refer to the decline as a “Trump slump.”

“The [immigration crackdown] and the image of the U.S. as an inhospitable place to anybody who’s not a U.S. citizen is a byproduct of what is going on,” David Leopold, partner and chairman of immigration law at Ulmer & Berne LLP in Ohio, told Newsweek.



Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-killing-tourism-industry-experts-say-772425

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dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
1. +1. Colleges also feel the effects of Trump's policy:
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:49 AM
Jan 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/us/international-enrollment-drop.html
As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel the Sting
By STEPHANIE SAUL| JAN. 2, 2018

Just as many universities believed that the financial wreckage left by the 2008 recession was behind them, campuses across the country have been forced to make new rounds of cuts, this time brought on, in large part, by a loss of international students.

Schools in the Midwest have been particularly hard hit — many of them non-flagship public universities that had come to rely heavily on tuition from foreign students, who generally pay more than in-state students.

The downturn follows a decade of explosive growth in foreign student enrollment, which now tops 1 million at United States colleges and educational training programs, and supplies $39 billion in revenue. International enrollment began to flatten in 2016, partly because of changing conditions abroad and the increasing lure of schools in Canada, Australia and other English-speaking countries.

And since President Trump was elected, college administrators say, his rhetoric and more restrictive views on immigration have made the United States even less attractive to international students. The Trump administration is more closely scrutinizing visa applications, indefinitely banning travel from some countries and making it harder for foreign students to remain in the United States after graduation.


tanyev

(42,559 posts)
2. Good thing that's not something that creates a lot of jobs or brings in a lot of revenue.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jan 2018

Oh, wait....

DFW

(54,397 posts)
5. That's for sure
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jan 2018

Every week a mass shooting or a police murder, and EVERY ONE making the headlines and the TV news in Europe.

Not many people canceled trips they had booked, but there were many that never booked in the first place that otherwise would have come.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
6. Not just Trump. The whole Republican gang of "Lawmakers," if you can call them that
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jan 2018

I live in Europe and speak nine European languages. The general feel one gets overseas is negative. "This doesn't seem like a good time to visit the USA" is a comment I get from both potential tourists and businessmen alike. They know who Paul Ryan is and they know who Mitch McConnell is. They also know they are not thrilled to visit our country while the likes of them have a large say in what goes on.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
7. This is just the first sign of the slump, a canary in the coal mine.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jan 2018

The slump will hit everything. Housing, the stock market, manufacturing, exports, imports... you name it. We're still riding on Obama's legacy, coasting on his momentum. Remember how long it took Obama to turn around li'l boot's and darth's incredible crash in the ditch? General changes in economic momentum do not come suddenly. They grind to a halt over time. With the exception of volatile markets.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
8. Many bands from Europe and South America and Australia will NOT
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jan 2018

be touring here. These are younger, newer on the scene bands who
are touring Asia, S. Africa and plenty of European Countries.

It used to be standard, they would tour here either right before an album release or just after.

They rave about their shows in Japan, Germany, France, Canada and Rio.

One band has even stated, they will think about touring again in the
U.S. when things stabilize.

This may not seem like a big deal but it is a symptom of a bigger problem here.

Tikki

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
14. That is because of the stupid P2 visa nonsense
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:00 AM
Jan 2018

The bureaucracy, delay and cost has become overwhelming and there is no guarantee they will even let you over the border when you arrive.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
16. I am pretty sure most of these young foreign musicians have no.....
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:43 AM
Jan 2018

confidence in our government that is being run this way.

Tikki

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
17. A lot of it falls on the promoters
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jan 2018

It doesn't take very many bad experiences with arbitrary refusals and musicians with visas being turned away at the border before the promoters just decide it isn't worth the hassle.

Even where I work we have Europeans who didn't go home for Christmas because they were afraid of being turned away when they tried to return. Expat communities are full of stories and antidotes about nightmares at the border.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
9. It's just the immigration
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:45 PM
Jan 2018

….issue. He's taken the sheen off of America——I mean the one it's had for tourists. Who wants to visit or see the sights or the historic places in a country that is as troglodyte as it now seems? Why would you want to spend your money in such a country?

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
12. White supremacists and the rabid NRA don't help either!
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:16 PM
Jan 2018

Ugly Americans are giving the country a black eye – and unfortunately one of the ugliest resides in the WH these days. Certainly one of the most loud-mouthed.

Charlottesville and other neo-Nazi rallies are part of it. Then there's the correct perception of the targeting of people of color, police violence, antipolice violence, and the tragic deaths of a few foreign students and tourists.

Well, maybe facing some financial consequences would begin to get the attention of the business community.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
13. I am looking to doing more traveling abroad myself.....
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:35 PM
Jan 2018


just to get out of the country for a spell and enjoy a Castle, beer in a REAL pub, engage in intelligent conversation with someone just to hear accented English, visit a pile of rocks, visit a Museum or two, or enjoy history with wide open eyes.

England and France are calling my name later this year.

moondust

(19,986 posts)
15. Predictable.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:20 AM
Jan 2018

For at least a year now.

Plenty of hospitable, safe, and interesting places to visit besides Crazyland.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
18. In all fairness, the dollar is up against nearly all currencies.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jan 2018

It is very expensive to visit the United States right now. We had relatives from Norway and Ireland visit last summer, and they were appalled at how little they got for their currency.

I would wager that US citizens going abroad is up, since the dollar has more value?

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