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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:18 PM Jan 2018

UPDATED: Graham: 'My memory hasn't evolved' on Trump 'shithole' meeting

Last edited Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Politico


By POLITICO STAFF 01/15/2018 12:53 PM EST

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Monday said his “memory hasn’t evolved” on the meeting where President Donald Trump reportedly questioned why the U.S. allows in people from “shithole” countries, according to a local news report.

However, Graham wouldn’t confirm that Trump actually used the word “shithole,” according to The Post and Courier..

"My memory hasn't evolved,” Graham said. “I know what was said and I know what I said."

Graham had issued a statement Friday that appeared to back up the report that Trump used such language. "Following comments by the President, I said my piece directly to him yesterday," Graham said. "The President and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel. I’ve always believed that America is an idea, not defined by its people but by its ideals."

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/15/trump-shithole-lindsey-graham-meeting-340617



UPDATE:

Senators Durbin, Graham Challenge Trump’s Denial Over ‘Sh*thole’ Remark

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Monday seemed to back reports of President Trump calling Haiti and African nations “shithole countries” at an immigration meeting last week. Graham, one of a handful of lawmakers present at the controversial meeting, had earlier claimed he’d “said his piece” to the president over certain “comments,” though he stopped short of voicing what the comments were. Asked about denials of the comments by Trump and two other lawmakers, Graham told The Post and Courier, “My memory hasn’t evolved. I know what was said and I know what I said.” Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin also stood by his account of the meeting, saying, “I know what happened. I stand by every word that I said.” Durbin had earlier confirmed reports that Trump used the term “shithole countries,” calling the comments “hate-filled, vile, and racist.” Meanwhile, Republican Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue continue to stand by Trump, saying they “do not recall” the president making “these comments specifically.”




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https://www.thedailybeast.com/senators-durbin-graham-challenge-trumps-denial-over-shthole-remark
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UPDATED: Graham: 'My memory hasn't evolved' on Trump 'shithole' meeting (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
Blackmail JI7 Jan 2018 #1
Pres. Turd has Kompromat on every RePutin legislator. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #24
He admits he is lying with con artist verbal games. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #2
America is defined by its ideals, and so is Lindsey Graham RainCaster Jan 2018 #3
Little Lindsey has Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #4
Traitor need to get over himself. Zoonart Jan 2018 #5
Turtle must be threatening Chair reassignments BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #6
I think this is a more positive statement than negative, on the subject louis c Jan 2018 #7
Agreed. His "memory didn't evolve" is the key phase. He's calling out the lying Cotton and Perdue. brush Jan 2018 #14
My reaction, too. n/t MBS Jan 2018 #15
I STILL call him a shittty little coward. pangaia Jan 2018 #29
Gutless weenie. Liberalagogo Jan 2018 #8
+1000 GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #22
I Read That As a Putdown of Cotton and Perdue TomCADem Jan 2018 #9
+100. That's my read of his comments too. DonViejo Jan 2018 #10
Agreed GreenPartyVoter Jan 2018 #11
Exactly DarthDem Jan 2018 #12
So he's on the record acknowledging evolution? bluedigger Jan 2018 #13
America is an ''idea'' defined by its ''ideals''. What? YOHABLO Jan 2018 #16
What a profile in courage n/m RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #17
It really doesn't matter if tRump used the word "shithole" or "shithouse" MiniMe Jan 2018 #18
Dancing With The Vocabulary Lindsay sits on the fence. But mumbo jumbo confirming Durbin. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #19
Lindsay a bit more than mumbo jumbo confirming Durbin progree Jan 2018 #20
Issue of the word used, and repeatedly, NOT corroborated by Lying Lyndsay. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #31
And we all know how republicans feel about evolution, don't we? Paladin Jan 2018 #21
Lindsey's positioning himself for what happens after Mueller's hammer comes down. LudwigPastorius Jan 2018 #23
He also sees himself as next SoS LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #26
I don't recall means the check hasn't yet cleared withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #25
But he hasn't the cojones to come right out and say it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #27
Release the tapes. safeinOhio Jan 2018 #28
Isn't Graham's office the official source of the story? Johonny Jan 2018 #30
KICK Cha Jan 2018 #32

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. Pres. Turd has Kompromat on every RePutin legislator.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jan 2018

Courtesy of Putin's (under-reported) RNC break-in.

BumRushDaShow

(129,033 posts)
6. Turtle must be threatening Chair reassignments
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jan 2018

since he has been deathly silent while the GOP attendees have suddenly begun to fabricate on-the-fly talking point lies.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
7. I think this is a more positive statement than negative, on the subject
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jan 2018

Lindsey Graham may be hiding behind keeping the specifics confidential, but he in no way contradicts Senator Durbin.

The evolving part is a dig at Cotton and Perdue, as they first said they didn't remember and now talk about a specific word that wasn't said (Shithole or Shithouse).

Lindsey Graham does not back up the President's account, and that's what matters.

brush

(53,778 posts)
14. Agreed. His "memory didn't evolve" is the key phase. He's calling out the lying Cotton and Perdue.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
29. I STILL call him a shittty little coward.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 05:06 PM
Jan 2018

He is too chicken-shit to say what he knows..

Slimy little bastard...

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. I Read That As a Putdown of Cotton and Perdue
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jan 2018

They are the ones changing their story. Only Durban and Graham have been consistent.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
18. It really doesn't matter if tRump used the word "shithole" or "shithouse"
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:02 PM
Jan 2018

The exact word isn't important, what is important is the meaning and the feeling behind calling countries "shit" whatever.

progree

(10,908 posts)
20. Lindsay a bit more than mumbo jumbo confirming Durbin
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:38 PM
Jan 2018

In the 3nd paragraph:

"Following comments by the President, I said my piece directly to him yesterday. The President and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel. I've always believed that America is an idea, not defined by its people but by its ideals," Graham said in a statement on Friday.

Graham neither confirmed nor denied the controversial remarks attributed to Trump, but the GOP senator said he appreciated statements from Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.).

"I appreciate Senator Durbin's statements and have enjoyed working with him and many others on this important issue," Graham said in his statement.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/368772-graham-i-said-my-piece-to-trump-directly


And then there is this from Sen. Tim Scott(R) and Sen. Jeff Flake(R)

Graham also reportedly confirmed hearing Trump's racially charged remark in a conversation with fellow South Carolina Republican Sen. Tim Scott.

Reached Friday at a Samsung appliance plant opening in Newberry, Scott said that Graham told him the comments, as reported in the media, were “basically accurate.”

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/lindsey-graham-i-said-my-piece-to-trump-but-senator/article_e99c2fba-f7a9-11e7-a381-d7950e17b81f.html


Sen. Jeff Flake, a fierce Republican critic of the President, was not at the meeting but tweeted that he had heard directly from those who were in attendance.

"The words used by the President, as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance, were not 'tough,' " he said, taking issue with the President's tweet. "They were abhorrent and repulsive."

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/senators-trump-comment-tom-cotton/index.html

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
31. Issue of the word used, and repeatedly, NOT corroborated by Lying Lyndsay.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jan 2018

"I agree 100% with Sen. Durbin as to what transpired". Not that hard of your intent is not to obfuscate.

Paladin

(28,262 posts)
21. And we all know how republicans feel about evolution, don't we?
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jan 2018

To hell with you, Lindsey Graham. Without John McCain around to provide you with a backbone, you're fucking useless.

LudwigPastorius

(9,148 posts)
23. Lindsey's positioning himself for what happens after Mueller's hammer comes down.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jan 2018

He wants to be the Vice President in a Mike Pence administration. "See? I (sorta) stood up to that criminal Trump! (not really)"

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
27. But he hasn't the cojones to come right out and say it.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

He's probably still positioning himself for the SoS job when Tillerson gets sacked, so doesn't dare annoy His Orangeness.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
30. Isn't Graham's office the official source of the story?
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jan 2018

Both he and Durbin were pissed their two person meeting turned into a 6 on 1 with the president. They thought they had a deal and instead leader Don turned it into a shithole. Now who knows if they can pass anything meaningful...

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