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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:15 PM Jan 2018

Army vet sues VA over scalpel left in body after surgery

Source: Associated Press


Updated 3:45 pm, Monday, January 15, 2018

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) — An Army veteran who says someone left a scalpel inside him after surgery is suing a veterans affairs hospital.

Bridgeport resident Glenford Turner says the scalpel was only discovered years later, after he suffered from long-term abdominal pain. He sued the VA in U.S. District Court last week, seeking unspecified compensatory damages.

Court papers say Turner had surgery at the VA hospital in West Haven in 2013. Nearly four years later, he went back to the VA with dizziness and severe abdominal pain. An X-Ray showed there was a scalpel inside his body.

Turner had to undergo surgery to remove the scalpel. His lawyer, Joel Faxon, said doctors confirmed it was the same one. Faxon called it "an incomprehensible level of incompetence."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/medical/article/Army-vet-sues-VA-over-scalpel-left-in-body-after-12499014.php

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Army vet sues VA over scalpel left in body after surgery (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2018 OP
"an incomprehensible level of incompetence." - considering how things like that seem to happen... PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #1
Yeah, all kinds of things get accidentally left behind in surgeries jberryhill Jan 2018 #3
Pretty common. Gauze, clamps, scalpels, etc. Surprised the don't just use metal detectors harun Jan 2018 #14
I've had five surgeries and two rounds of chemo at Temple VA hospital in the last five years.... marble falls Jan 2018 #2
I agree 100% with ya marble falls, Ive had several surgeries and a 10 month round of Chemo..... Old Vet Jan 2018 #5
College and VA have been wonderful benefits for me, too. Thanks for your service, brother. marble falls Jan 2018 #11
Yes not fooled Jan 2018 #7
I agree with you, plus the well meaning non vets who honestly think they are advocating for us... marble falls Jan 2018 #10
Very glad you shared your own experiences here. Best wishes in your return to health. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2018 #8
Man, of all the equipment they could leave behind Codeine Jan 2018 #4
That's what seemed horrendous to me, too. The imagery is breathtaking. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2018 #9
Count was incorrect, and they failed to catch it. paleotn Jan 2018 #6
My dogs have pain in abdomen Vet always takes x-ray! Why does a human have to suffer YEARS of pain? Sunlei Jan 2018 #12
Had a doctor friend of mine comment once on a similar situation... Javaman Jan 2018 #13
In other news, Trump orders the VA to sue a veteran for stealing a scalpel lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #15

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. "an incomprehensible level of incompetence." - considering how things like that seem to happen...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:23 PM
Jan 2018

on occasion it seems like a comprehensible level of incompetence to me.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Yeah, all kinds of things get accidentally left behind in surgeries
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jan 2018

Yes, it is a mistake but, no, it doesn't fall into the "you ain't gonna believe this" category of mistake.

harun

(11,348 posts)
14. Pretty common. Gauze, clamps, scalpels, etc. Surprised the don't just use metal detectors
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jan 2018

on people before closing up.

marble falls

(57,093 posts)
2. I've had five surgeries and two rounds of chemo at Temple VA hospital in the last five years....
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jan 2018

and I have nothing but HIGH praise for the treatment I received. Mistakes happen in all hospitals VA and civilian. They are regrettable but never in my experience with VA endemic. I've had "Cadillac" health care in my professional career and the care I get from VA is better than any other insurance program I ever had. Scott and White here in Texas has partnered up with VA not to teach VA but to learn from VA particularly how to keep records up to date with patients who move move all around the states. The VA makes mistakes but they do the very best they can and they learn from their mistakes. t may be hard to believe but the care I received turned my colon cancer surgery into one best experiances of my life (after the first two days) and they are after my bladder cancer aggressively.

Thank G*d for the VA. The best thing I ever did was join the Navy.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
5. I agree 100% with ya marble falls, Ive had several surgeries and a 10 month round of Chemo.....
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:13 PM
Jan 2018

At Buffalo and Syracuse VA in NY. I have nothing but the utmost trust in the VA, Between the free tuition for college and lifetime healthcare(100% military disabled) I too am glad I did my time in the army.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
7. Yes
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:59 PM
Jan 2018

Whenever I see stories like this, it smells like anti-VA propaganda laying the groundwork for privatization efforts. You just know dump and his handlers are itching to destroy the VA. Would be too bad for all those deluded old veterans who supported dump.

The story does not include any stats on what % of surgeries include an error of this magnitude and whether the VA has higher rates. That's the only information that would enable a reader to draw any conclusions as to whether the VA deserves any criticism above and beyond the unavoidable occasional surgical error of this type. Of course whenever it happens it's unfortunate, but as long as humans are involved this kind of thing is going to happen.

I just smell a rat re trying to demonize the VA. Otherwise, the paper needs to report every time a local hospital does something like this and gets sued.



marble falls

(57,093 posts)
10. I agree with you, plus the well meaning non vets who honestly think they are advocating for us...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 02:01 AM
Jan 2018

who repeat unverified and misunderstood third hand stories.

There is no doubt there are problem VA hospitals but sometimes the problems derive from Congress cutting budgets, having unrealistic goals for administrators, and political appointments of VA officials who have no experience or competence at their jobs.

When I got out in '73 I went to work at VA hospital at Brecksville, Ohio and the first day I told my wife whatever happened to me, she was not to put me in a VA hospital. Ten years ago as I got over 55 and the contract jobs started petering out she talked me into going to VA. What a difference 40 years have made. And doing it saved my life.

Is there room for improvement? Sure but offhand I can't think of anything significant but that Congress might built one less Carrier or FBM sub and spend the money to involve more younger vets into getting their care from VA.

I know that there are two hospitals in my home town of Akron, Ohio that have significantly higher rates of MSR infection than the VA gets.

Thanks for your service, brother.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
8. Very glad you shared your own experiences here. Best wishes in your return to health. Thank you. n/t
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jan 2018
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
4. Man, of all the equipment they could leave behind
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:59 PM
Jan 2018

a scalpel is by far the scariest. Just think of it cutting into tissue and organs every time you move.

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
6. Count was incorrect, and they failed to catch it.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jan 2018

Probably a blade and not an entire scalpel. A rarity, but a monumental fuck up when it happens.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. My dogs have pain in abdomen Vet always takes x-ray! Why does a human have to suffer YEARS of pain?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 06:53 AM
Jan 2018

WTF is the matter with Doctors? "long-term abdominal pain" means you x-ray, use ultrasound, scope, biopsy, send specimens to the lab.

It's hell to be sick, "long-term abdominal pain" in America especially if you're stuck with a shitty Doctor.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
13. Had a doctor friend of mine comment once on a similar situation...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:53 AM
Jan 2018

basically he said, "that is a horrible doctor. A good doctor accounts for everything before he closes up".

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. In other news, Trump orders the VA to sue a veteran for stealing a scalpel
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jan 2018

and smuggling it out of the hospital inside his body.

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