The modern German capital building is pretty cool. They built the new one on top of the old one and left portions of the original wall standing “as is”. When the soviets occupied the area after WWII, many of the soldiers took to defacing the remains and put graffiti on it and such. The new Reichstag has panels of the wall covered in glass and they are viewable from inside the building. I showed pictures I took of the panels to my Russian lady-friend at the time she translated it all for me. The rotunda on top of that he building is cool as well.

As a layman to architecture, I think they did a great job combining the history of the site to a modern and forward-looking structure.

It is an awesome restoration and pays homage to each era if its existence. Never forget!

Or so I remember in August of 07. But I agree it was really cool.

Walking through the Brandenburg Gate was very emotional for this child of the Cold War.

I loved Berlin. But not as much as Paris. Been there 4 times since I have been to Berlin!

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They would not think twice about sabotage in order to keep in power and keep the tax cuts for their billionaire friends.

it seems to be the general direction trumpy wants to go, and has wanted this all year. Like let's piss off the N Koreans and blame Obama for it, or anybody but 'trumpys minions"....
And I think for morons in congress would support it too! WE MUST get them out!

He'll bungle up the response somehow. Plus, there's an narrative of incompetence that would crop up...

And yet, he was still seen as a hero. Go figure.

Though I think some of that can be attributed to the general shock and surprise of the public. By now, terrorism is at the forefront in the public consciousness.

His administration is such an obvious clusterfuck that he would be blamed for not preparing (except by the 30% who are beyond redemption).

Would have made a lot more sense to loiter aloft in AF1; the chance of a successful interception by any kind of hostile without radar vectoring would be pretty much zero. The sky is big.

as they tried to confirm "other planes".

Everytime he's gotten some sort of personal "win" or accolades, he has completely undermined it within a week.

Even if there is a terror attack, I don't see the nation uniting behind 45 the way it did behind Bush. Bush had not spent his first year in office tweeting stupid crap and making stupid statements.

If 45 has a terror event he will be roundly blamed for letting it happen.

There already is evidence that his actions have prompted an increase in worldwide terrorist attacks, specifically his announcement to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

You have so many instances where the phrase “Dubya wasn’t that stupid” is used. Dubya was pretty dumb, but he was smart enough to know when he didn’t know.

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By talking this way, Trump has ruined the support he might have gotten. When this gets national attention, and it will, Trump is totally done.

because their voter base is now largely trained to only think what they are told to think and believe what they are told to believe and they are trained to resist thinking for themselves or to think of any of the potential negative consequences for their own actions and choices.

I absolutely wouldn't put a Reichstag fire past him and his thugs. I simply haven't seen a single thing they've done competently. His base would go further round the bend after a terror attack. But I think the majority of Americans, already dissatisfied with this administration, would want more reasoned, wiser leadership. Or so I tell myself in order to carry on.

cannot even possibly, remotely replicate. ESPECIALLY when it can be shown that he golfs every 1/5 days since he's been in office, multiple credible accounts exist that he can't be bothered to read intel briefs (or anything, really).

The idiot 30% would ramp up their support even further of course and rally round their hatred of all things non-white/xtian ... but Dump would become completely anathema to the remaining 70% of the Citizenry. Esp. if anything credible came out that the attack was due in ANY WAY ... to Dump's failure to 'pay attention'.

His history of Golfing and tweeting the Faux and Friends talking points would come to the forefront of the news and EVERYONE would know ... this is what happens when you elect a POTUS who has no clue what he's doing. The 30% will feel like 'it was worth it after all nobody I know died and he's fukcing over the liberals and brownies' and they'll still defend him ... but the entire WORLD would know he FAILED, miserably.

And NOW, with this news, that he's been talking like this? If it actually really hits the news cycle (no guarantee), and someone respectable comes out and confirms it, giving it some real traction? Then this will no longer be a 'viable strategy', put it like that. His big mouth will have FINALLY sunk his monkey ass ...

I wouldn't be surprised to find he was thinking he could have someone take down 666 5th Avenue ... and blame it on jih@dists ... while Jared collects the insurance $$$.

what a fucking s hole he is. Wishing death on others to make himself look good. This would definitely cause civil unrest. Fuck his base too.

and shoot someone to death, and his base would still love him, so deaths to him, is a cheap commodity.

... but I have to admit, your typo made me burst out laughing!

killing off his enemies, the Russians might be called in to help.

The possibility of a bombing, or even an assassination of a trump ally and blamed on liberals/progressives/leftists now looms.

The fact that he's wishing for a terror attach shows he doesn't care and would willing sacrifice someone to maintain power.

Like he did right before Wikileaks released the Russian info on Hillary's emails.

If we get a a large terrorist attack, we should look for Putin's fingerprints.

He doesn't care if millions of people die, as long as he comes out on top. He is one sick motherfucker and I really believe there is nothing he wouldn't do to prop up his poll numbers. Except this time, I think it will backfire on him. Everyone will know that he was the orchestrator of our doom.

He has the same BMI as Albert Pujols!

I've ever known in my life."

If Trump really was put into the presidency by the Russians, doesn't that make him a real-life Manchurian candidate?

the GOP wanted to bomb Iraq, they said people wouldn't go along with it unless there was "another Pearl Harbor". PNAC took over our government and the towers came down.

Remember when Bin Laden sent out videos for Bush whenever he needed a boost. I don't trust these people at all!

if there is ever a real investigation on what happened on 9/11/01.

had the good sense to not mention it beforehand. Although the PNAC people did.

of the organization during the senior Bush years that he and many others belonged to,
but there was a consensus that what was needed at the time (to develop a new world order [America First?] was a
new Pearl Harbor.

And then, with amazing convenience, 911 happened. (But "who could foresee..blah blah blah".)

PNAC

After the way he's treated the families of dead servicemen, does one honestly believe that Trump cares a damn about them? Who the hell is gonna give up their life for that piece of shit?

purpose to see how people reacted, or maybe to acclimate the populace to a coming war with NK, but your thought might be what it was really all about.

They could actually try that here on the mainland during the heat of the mid-terms.

If it had anything to do with a computer glitch, look for Putin's fingerprints.

Kentucky Fried Chicken and mo' Big Macs

If that event happens, this comment will reflect back to Trump.

When/if this statement is fully seen by most of us in this country, then for sure Trump is done. Fully cooked and totally burnt.

This statement is the worst thing he has ever said, even if true

...now would be a good time for terrorists to attack."

He had no trouble blowing up apartments or shooting down airliners

exactly.

That is what he is doing.

Putin could pull it off and may have been responsible for the fake alert in Hawaii.

And Trump, the GOP and their rich donor Koch brothers will stand by cheering the attack on American soil.

......fascism will have come to America, waving the flag and carrying a bible!!!

Total plutocracy
Total theocracy
Total kleptocracy
Total Kakistocracy

this to Putin, who has the capability to arrange it. Putin will not hesitate to continue protecting his investment.

Not so fast. There are enough so-called 'loyal' rethugs and the roughly 38% of christofascists who form his most ardent supporters that they'd be happy if martial law is enforced throughout the U.S. They'd embrace it with both arms and be screaming supporters of people being rounded up and sent off.

Fox News would be all over, blaming Democrats and defending Herr Shithole

If there were another terror attack Trump's gross incompetence as a leader would be where the blame lies, he doesn't get a break just the blame and it would be overwhelmingly in the Democrats favor if that happened.

Of the American people.

would win since he announced his campaign on the golden escalator. You are nicer than I am though. I say Americans are dumb as rocks, you say ignorant. Still the same results.

that he's planning to pull this shit off!

You've given terrorists a green light.
If some attack, they now know the American public will blame you.

We're fucked no matter what now. All because of you fat wide shithole mouth.

Then he and Cheney exploited the hell out of it.
Killed and injured millions of people.
Cheney and Halliburton became very wealthy.

every person who has social media needs to share this with all friends and followers. Editorials need to be written to newspapers etc. This has to get into the mainstream media. This to me is treason.

Americans hunting him like a treasonist jackal, working in cooperation with Putin to put the our government under Russian domination. He should ask GW Bush whom he feared the most on 9/11 -- was it the al-Qaeda attackers or the pissed-off Americans?

Trump said only he could protect us from terror attacks

The difference between Trump and W is W was less than 1 year into his term and had not faced any real crisis. Trump has already faced numerous national disasters and has failed each and every one. I'm talking floods, fires, landslides, hurricanes etc. He even screwed up the false alert that terrorized Hawaii last week. And he thinks some terrorist attack on America is going to save his incompetent ass? He'll screw that up too, he's not had a single success yet.

Sows seeds of mistrust, insults every nation (except Norway), holds all religion (except for the white guy's one) in contempt - the nutjob is laying foundation for a terrorist attack. Then he'll blame either Hillary or Obama.

He made the assumption that this country has anything to offer to bring Norwegians here. He proves he knows literally nothing about them besides their skin tone, and assumed that the US is inherently better.

Seriously. NOTHING is beyond them.

He's counting on an attack, and war. He'll get us all killed yet.

of his shady deals came to light.

trump will have a strike against north korea

The question is, is this solely a Trump idea, or will it become the working plan of the GOP in the fall?

The WaPo article did say that he alluded to the Republicans doing better in 2002 after 9/11 happened. However, that’s a far cry from hoping for a terrorist attack.

... not when you lose the fight by being who you are, Dumpy ...

War with N. Korea, Iran, or fill-in-the-blank will serve the same purpose. Calls to patriotically rally around the flag, the troops and "homeland", plus possible suspension of elections/Constitution or imposition of martial law. I would put NOTHING past this regime and the complicit Republican Congress. Think how abnormal and unprecedented the last year and election were.

Please someone impeach this fool.

The Wapo article's sentence on which this was based was this:

"In private conversations, Trump has told advisers that he doesn’t think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said."

IMO he is giving a recent example of when midterms went different;y that could have been predicted a year before. (Honestly the same could be said for 2014.)

If he actually said what the headline suggested, that would be one thing. But that one statement has to metastasize quite a bit to do so.

Trump says and does enough outlandish things. There is no need to extrapolate to the level of the raw story article.

The Washington Post article says:

In private conversations, Trump has told advisers that he doesn’t think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said.

The Demo rep heard It when Trump said it..but of course....the Demo rep is lying

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What Demo rep are you referring to?

UPDATE: Let me expand on that a bit. The WaPo article referred to the 9/11 attacks in what appeared to be an approximate quotation from Donald Trump. Since there were no quotation marks, it's not clear what part of the statement was Donald Trump's own words, and what part might have been added either by the sources or by the authors of the article.

I'm not making any claim about who mentioned 9/11. I'm simply asking, since it's not clear (to me) from the article.

If there's something in the article that answers that question, I missed it, and I'd appreciate it if you would point it out to me.

I also didn't see any reference to a Democratic Representative being present. Rather, the article refers to private conversations between Trump and his advisers. Again, if I've missed something, please point it out to me.

There is no other reason for Dubya's reelection and the 2002 and 2004 elections.

There is no other reason for Dubya's reelection and the 2002 and 2004 elections.

He is in charge of Homeland Security.

We will be justified in asking a lot of questions about any such attack and its origins and causes -- maybe even its planners.

And Rudy Ghooliani told everyone Bush kept us safe.

RFuckers said in private.. totally ignoring the August 6th Memo.

How the hell do we get this news, though.. when supposedly said in private?.. not that I don't believe it.

Has been on this site since...well, since 9/11 happened.

It ws just so convenient for W.

But come on, do you see Trump stopping Putin from orchestrating a terrorist attack on US soil, if Putin really, really wanted it?

October, 2018. The Oval Office.

Trump: The election is shaping up to be a disaster, even after all our manipulation of the vote counting. Order someone to bomb Mar-a-Lago.

Pence: But, Mr. President, that's your spread.

Trump: So what? I've over-insured the place anyway, so I'll cash in like crazy. Then we'll blame libbruls, jounalists and terrorists. It worked for Cheney and that other guy, didn't it?

Pence: You mean George W Bush?

Trump: Right, that's his name.

Pence: Alright, I'll look into getting it done. Who should be responsible?

Trump: How should I know? Find some shithole African country on the map, and say they did it.

Pence: Very well. Here is a map of Africa. Pick a country.

Trump: Just leave it on the desk. I'll choose one.

Pence: Yes, Sahib. (Leaves)

Trump: Let's see. So many shitholes. Gotta find one with a catchy name. Oh, here's one. Burkina Faso. Don't Muslim women wear burkinas? Perfect. And look at the name of that city! Ouagadougou! Great name for a shithole! (calls to Kelly) Get me Mattis! (Kelly bows and does as he is told)

Defense Secretary Mattis: Yes, sir?

Trump: Hey, we are in a bind. We gotta bomb some place.

Mattis: What place?

Trump: Hold on. What were we talking about? Pence and I were just talking about it. Oh, yeah. We need to scare the people into thinking they need us for something, so we need a place to blow up.

Mattis: What place would that be?

Trump: Crap, I forget. Pence and I were just talking about it. Wait, I remember. Some Muslim shithole where women wear fastened burkinas. Here it is. Wagadoodoo.

Mattis: You mean Ouagadougou in Bukina Faso?

Trump: Yeah, yeah, however you pronounce it. That's the one. I think that's what we decided on.

Mattis: How is bombing Ouagadougou going to do us any good?

Trump: I forget. Something to do with Florida. Look, you can't expect me to remember every detail. Just get it done a week before the cisterns, will you?

Mattis: Do you mean the midterms, sir?

Trump: Yeah, yeah, you don't have to correct every foreign word I mess up.

Mattis: Midterms isn't a foreign word, sir.

Trump: If I can't spell it, it's foreign, OK? Just send out the missiles and tell me when Waggy-Doggy is history, OK?

Mattis: Yes, sir. I'll order a missile strike immediately. Anything else?

Trump: Yeah. Pence and I were discussing something about my place in Florida. Call him, and ask him to remind me what it was, would ya? No rush. I don't remember it as being very important.

Mattis: Yes, Your Holiness. (bows and leaves, the curtain falls)

This is monstrous.

Local hate as well, Republicans embolden hate. So does Republicans state TV, fox embolden hate.

Trump is an asshole

n/t

is a threat of some kind (like the Hawaii false alarm except nation-wide or something real) during a shutdown -- Republicans could blame Democrats for putting the nation at risk. It would completely freak out the married white women who vote for Republicans because their number one issue is terrorism/safety and think Republican Daddy will take care of them.