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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts) Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:48 PM Jan 2018

Exclusive: New signs Gates may be negotiating with Mueller's team

Source: CNN

Former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates has quietly added a prominent white-collar attorney, Tom Green, to his defense team, signaling that Gates' approach to his not-guilty plea could be changing behind the scenes.

Green, a well-known Washington defense lawyer, was seen at special counsel Robert Mueller's office twice last week. CNN is told by a source familiar with the matter that Green has joined Gates' team.

Green isn't listed in the court record as a lawyer in the case and works for a large law firm separate from Gates' primary lawyers.

Green's involvement suggests that there is an ongoing negotiation between the defendant's team and the prosecutors. At this stage, with Gates' charges filed and bail set, talks could concern the charges and Gates' plea. The defense and prosecution are currently working together on discovery of evidence.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics/rick-gates-new-attorney-mueller-russia-investigation/index.html

I updated this to the original CNN story

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Exclusive: New signs Gates may be negotiating with Mueller's team (Original Post) Julian Englis Jan 2018 OP

Waiting as the wheels of justice UpInArms Jan 2018 #1

I get the impression that Mueller's team is stressing these tRump cronies to the breaking point ffr Jan 2018 #2

These coat and tie types aren't able to accept, "Do the crime, do the time." L. Coyote Jan 2018 #9

"Self flipping waffles" made me laugh pandr32 Jan 2018 #11

All of Herr Shithole's cronies are flipping on him. Dopers_Greed Jan 2018 #3

How do these people pay attorney fees? LuckyLib Jan 2018 #4

That's a reason some decide to co-operate DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #5

OMG that is so funny! bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #6

Minor aides often get bankruptded Yupster Jan 2018 #8

To be clear, prosecutor call people in to get testimony. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #10

I'm not so trusting Yupster Jan 2018 #12

flipping gates is key to flipping manafort.... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #7

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)

1. Waiting as the wheels of justice

Reply to Julian Englis (Original post)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:07 AM

Jan 2018

Turn very slowly

Just hoping they grind very finely

ffr

(22,670 posts)

2. I get the impression that Mueller's team is stressing these tRump cronies to the breaking point

Reply to Julian Englis (Original post)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:02 AM

Jan 2018

By the sound of it, they're changing their tunes for a reason: Mueller's got the goods on them and he's going to drop a hammer on their asses if they continue their little lying charade.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)

9. These coat and tie types aren't able to accept, "Do the crime, do the time."

Reply to ffr (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:46 AM

Jan 2018

They are almost self-flipping waffles. Plus, consider who the cooperating witnesses are. Would you go to trial against a witness list of the highest officials in the IC?

Dr. Dena Grayson
Have ZERO doubt. Mueller is closing in, and Team🇷🇺Traitor is TOAST‼️

Link to tweet

pandr32

(11,588 posts)

11. "Self flipping waffles" made me laugh

Reply to L. Coyote (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:36 PM

Jan 2018

They are, too. No moral convictions or character of any kind except what is in the best interest for me. Trump surrounds himself with people like this.
These people are filling our government offices and institutions.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)

3. All of Herr Shithole's cronies are flipping on him.

Reply to Julian Englis (Original post)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:28 AM

Jan 2018

He demands absolute loyalty. But no one's willing to do prison time for that orange rat.

I love it.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)

4. How do these people pay attorney fees?

Reply to Julian Englis (Original post)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:59 AM

Jan 2018

They can’t all be really wealthy.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)

5. That's a reason some decide to co-operate

Reply to LuckyLib (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:18 AM

Jan 2018

The legal fees become too costly. Working out a plea deal relieves the financial pressure.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)

6. OMG that is so funny!

Reply to DeminPennswoods (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:54 AM

Jan 2018

All these holier-than-thou upper crust suits who worship money being slayed by financial considerations.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)

8. Minor aides often get bankruptded

Reply to LuckyLib (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:12 AM

Jan 2018

by these probes. Even if you're completely innocent you're advised to hire an attorney who can tell you what to expect and warn you of FBI traps they'll set for you.

Many young aides take Washington jobs that don't pay the bills just to get on the jobs ladder.

The prosecutors know this and can call a person iin again and again until they bankrupt them.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)

10. To be clear, prosecutor call people in to get testimony.

Reply to Yupster (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:48 AM

Jan 2018

Not to bankrupt them.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)

12. I'm not so trusting

Reply to L. Coyote (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:08 PM

Jan 2018

I think prosecutors know they have time on their side.

They can call a citizen in again and again, and stretch things out knowing the guy is being bled white. It makes people make deals they wouldn't make if they weren't under such financial pressure.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)

7. flipping gates is key to flipping manafort....

Reply to Julian Englis (Original post)

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:08 AM

Jan 2018

With gates testifying against him, manafort doesn't have a hope of winning his case in court.

Mannafort can take trump down on money laundering. It's possible gates knows something, but nowhere near what manafort knows.

The dominos are a fallin......

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