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UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:29 PM Jan 2018

Toys 'R' Us Is Closing 180 U.S. Stores After Declaring Bankruptcy

Source: Fortune

Toys “R” Us Inc. is planning to close about 180 U.S. stores as part of a reorganization plan to emerge from its September bankruptcy, according to a court filing.

The move to shutter about 20 percent of its U.S. store base, which needs court approval, comes four months after the world’s largest toy chain filed for protection from its creditors, a response to years of lackluster results and an unsustainable $5 billion debt load. The closures will begin next month, with Babies “R” Us locations accounting for at least half.

In December, Bloomberg News reported that the retailer would close as many as 200 stores.

Toys “R” Us had a challenging Christmas shopping season in the U.S. and overseas, Chief Executive Officer Dave Brandon wrote in a letter to employees that was obtained by Bloomberg News. While the bankruptcy hurt customer confidence and disrupted other parts of the business, the company has made operational mistakes that need to be fixed, he said.

Read more: http://fortune.com/2018/01/23/toys-r-us-close-stores-bankruptcy/

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Toys 'R' Us Is Closing 180 U.S. Stores After Declaring Bankruptcy (Original Post) UpInArms Jan 2018 OP
Kids don't want toys anymore - they want new cell phones and tablets from Amazon n/t Baclava Jan 2018 #1
Anything ToysRUs can carry, Amazon carries too, pretty much. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #2
Of course they want toys obamanut2012 Jan 2018 #4
yeah, that's more what I was saying - "specialty stores" for kids toys are pretty much dinosaurs n/t Baclava Jan 2018 #7
Especially over priced toys in a high rent mall space. marble falls Jan 2018 #14
Retail is dying, slowly but surely. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2018 #3
I know how you feel. I still like to try things on, flip throw a book.. turn things around, etc riversedge Jan 2018 #8
I hate buying stuff via Amazon or computer. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #21
Buying clothes online PSPS Jan 2018 #24
I hope they don't close the haunted one. :) C Moon Jan 2018 #5
Vulture capitalists are the culprit behind the Toys'R'Us demise and many more to come rurallib Jan 2018 #6
There has never been a good LBO jmowreader Jan 2018 #9
You Said A Mouthful ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #13
Another atrocity: The LBO industry created the mortgage crisis jmowreader Jan 2018 #22
THIS BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #10
I was just thinking about KB Toys also as I read this. Kittycow Jan 2018 #11
The Toys R Us near me BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #16
Very important point. Similar to what Shkreli was doing in Pharma. Wring every last penny out of suffragette Jan 2018 #12
Doesn't it give you some pleasure to know Shkreli has been cooling his heels in stir waiting to.... marble falls Jan 2018 #15
Im glad justice is being done in his case. Need more of that. Great piece here by Reich about suffragette Jan 2018 #19
Thanks for posting Strelnikov_ Jan 2018 #31
Yep - the MSM already has a narrative out there of internet stores and all that crap rurallib Jan 2018 #32
We are all getting SO TIRED OF WINNING. bullwinkle428 Jan 2018 #17
havent been there for over a decade but thier products were overpriced IMO lunasun Jan 2018 #18
Sure were!! FiveGoodMen Jan 2018 #25
It's a wasteful system bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #20
I'd go to a Mom and Pop toy store if I could find one. LisaM Jan 2018 #28
Toys R Us is arranged by commercial tie ins too crazycatlady Jan 2018 #33
Figures. LisaM Jan 2018 #34
The rent is too damn high! Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #23
Toys R Us did it to themselves. RandySF Jan 2018 #26
That's too bad. There used to be one right by our house and I shopped at it. LisaM Jan 2018 #27
The only retail job I ever had was toys r us at Christmas my freshman year in college kimbutgar Jan 2018 #29
There will always be a place for toy stores, but not ones undercut by Target and Walmart. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #30
Here's a list: hunter Jan 2018 #35

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. Anything ToysRUs can carry, Amazon carries too, pretty much.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jan 2018

And Toys r Us's electronic toy section is fuck-awful. Overpriced outdated shit.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
4. Of course they want toys
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jan 2018

But people don't go to many specialty big box stores anymore, and TrU didn't keep up with the times, much like Borders and B & N, and lots of other retail stores.

Want video games? Go to GameStop or Amazon.

Board games? Target know sells a huge amount... or Amazon.

Bikes? Target, bike stores, Amazon.

Stuffed animals... that's right. You don't need a huge specialty store.

They were always messy, and didn't keep up with the times, and after putting lots of mom and pop places out of business, Amazon, Target, etc. is now doing it to them.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. yeah, that's more what I was saying - "specialty stores" for kids toys are pretty much dinosaurs n/t
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:03 PM
Jan 2018
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
3. Retail is dying, slowly but surely.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

Aside from the obvious and much more significant impacts in the economic arena, my biggest problem with this fact is there's hardly anyplace in the smallish city I live in to actually TRY ON a pair of men's jeans or dress pants!!

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
8. I know how you feel. I still like to try things on, flip throw a book.. turn things around, etc
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

when I buy things.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
21. I hate buying stuff via Amazon or computer.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jan 2018

I end up returning 90% of the clothes and forget shoes. The whole experience is costly, takes time and is frustrating when you have to return something. NOT WORTH IT!

PSPS

(13,601 posts)
24. Buying clothes online
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:55 PM
Jan 2018

I'm convinced that clothing makers take into account return rates and fit their factories to suit the sale channel, putting inferior products into the online channel. Examples: Levi's 501 jeans bought online are a lighter material with less stitching even though they contain the identical product number and tags. The weave used on shirts and underwear is less dense in the online versions, wearing out faster. The factories are well aware of return rates in different channels and optimize their profit by taking advantage of the fact that people are less likely to return a product bought sight-unseen (or unfelt.) That's why I never buy clothes online. The retail channel will always contain the best content and workmanship because, otherwise, they'll never make it off the sales floor in the first place. In fact, the retailer probably won't even carry their merchandise.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
6. Vulture capitalists are the culprit behind the Toys'R'Us demise and many more to come
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

Read many articles on this prior to the holidays. Leveraged buyouts followed by the standard prescription of selling off assets and rearranging and piling on debt that the leveraged business can't pay.
Here is one story:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/09/toys-r-us-another-private-equity-casualty.html

Private Equity Greed: A Plague on Retail Businesses

Likewise, Pam and Russ Martens don’t mince words when they describe the underlying cause for this year’s wave of retail bankruptcies in their Wall Street on Parade post, How Many of 2017’s Retail Bankruptcies Were Caused by Private-Equity’s Greed?

According to S&P Global Market Intelligence, there have been 35 retail bankruptcies this year, almost double the 18 retail bankruptcies of last year. The filing by Toys ‘R’ Us this week was the latest.

What many of these retailers have in common is that they were taken private in leveraged buyouts (LBOs) by private equity (PE) firms. Toys ‘R’ Us, Payless ShoeSource, The Limited, Wet Seal, Gymboree Corp., rue21, and True Religion Apparel were all LBOs. Gander Mountain can also be included in this list if you reach back to its 1984 LBO. Far too many LBOs are simply asset stripping operations by Wall Street vultures who load the company with enormous debt, then asset strip the cash from the company by paying themselves obscene special dividends and management fees.


It is easy to blame online shopping as the culprit. Most of these businesses have online presence. Nope, it is the Mitt Romneys of the world that are the ones to blame.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
9. There has never been a good LBO
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jan 2018

The supposed justification for doing an LBO is burying a struggling company under a mountain of debt will force it to tighten up its operations. This is almost as big a lie as "cutting tax rates increases tax revenues."

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
13. You Said A Mouthful
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jan 2018

The real point is to cause shutdowns and spin off the parts that actually make money, at a tidy profit, only for those doing the buy out.

It never actually helps the company being bought.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
22. Another atrocity: The LBO industry created the mortgage crisis
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jan 2018

This is complicated but I'll explain.

During the first LBO heyday of the 1980s, the primary funding source was high-yield bonds. Michael Milken of Drexel started out buying what were called "fallen angel" bonds - paper issued as investment-grade that had been downgraded for whatever reason - and made a lot of money. He realized he could make even more money writing bonds that started out bad - the riskier a bond is, the more interest it pays. He then decided he could make more money than that by promoting these things as a way to raise a ton of money to finance a corporate takeover. (Israeli-born corporate raider Meshulam Riklis coined the term "junk bond." He was with Milken one day looking at the paper Milken was buying as fast as his little fingers could go, and told Milken, "Michael, these bonds are junk!" Milken told him, "yeah, but they pay interest and you can buy 'em at a discount." )

Then the feds threw Milken in the hoosegow and barred him from the securities industry for life. With that one imprisonment fully half the junk bond issuance went away, and that industry collapsed. They needed a new kind of investment, and someone you know found it.

A guy named Mitt Romney, he of the raider shop Bain Capital, discovered he could sell a "derivative" based on home mortgages and do what junk bonds used to. The name of it is "collateralized debt obligation." They worked as advertised but had a big problem: the safer a mortgage is, the harder it is to put in a CDO you're going to use to buy a company. You MUST have mortgages that will fail in this thing because a big part of the revenue stream from a CDO is from the "credit default swap" payments you receive when one of the mortgagees in your CDO goes into foreclosure. And what's the easiest way to assure yourself of mortgages that will fail? Umm...getting loan officers to convince bus drivers they can afford $400,000 McMansions that are financed with adjustable-rate interest-only mortgages?

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
10. THIS
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jan 2018
Bain, KKR, Vornado Suffer Wipeout in Toys ‘R’ Us Bankruptcy

By David Carey
September 19, 2017, 11:35 AM EDT Updated on September 19, 2017, 2:20 PM EDT

  • Firms sank $1.3B into takeover during wave of buyouts

  • They pocketed more than $470M in fees from toy seller


  • Bain Capital, KKR & Co. and Vornado Realty Trust stand to have their Toys “R” Us Inc. investment erased as the retailer they bought in 2005 for $7.5 billion seeks bankruptcy protection.

    The three firms and their co-investors sank $1.3 billion of equity into the takeover of the Wayne, New Jersey-based toy company, financing the rest with debt, according to company filings. The debt included senior loans in which they held a stake.

    Partly offsetting the loss is more than $470 million in fees and interest payments that Toys “R” Us awarded the firms over time.

    Toys “R” Us, which has 1,600 stores in 38 countries, filed for bankruptcy late Monday. The filing in Richmond, Virginia, estimated that the company has more than $5 billion in debt, which costs about $400 million a year to service.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-19/bain-kkr-vornado-suffer-wipeout-in-toys-r-us-bankruptcy


    They also took out KB Toys.

    The irony is that the guy occupying the WH and his family have done the same type of thing in the real estate market (see the myriad of "branded" AC casinos that have failed and soon, the infamous 666 Fifth Ave).

    Kittycow

    (2,396 posts)
    11. I was just thinking about KB Toys also as I read this.
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:47 PM
    Jan 2018

    That one really made me mad cuz they were right by my house and had good baby dolls

    Oh well, I guess the newly unemployed can retrain for the flourishing coal mines!

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    16. The Toys R Us near me
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:15 PM
    Jan 2018

    had previously been a Woolworth's decades ago and they eventually closed that Toys R Us 7 years ago. The KB not far from there had already closed what would now be 10 years ago.

    I grew up with Kiddie City but all that was left of those stores closed 25 years ago.

    suffragette

    (12,232 posts)
    12. Very important point. Similar to what Shkreli was doing in Pharma. Wring every last penny out of
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:49 PM
    Jan 2018

    a business, then toss it and the people affected aside.

    The spotlight needs to increase on these vile practices.

    Thanks for doing just that.

    This is an aspect of DU that I admire - digging under the surface to find the real truth of the matter.

    marble falls

    (57,106 posts)
    15. Doesn't it give you some pleasure to know Shkreli has been cooling his heels in stir waiting to....
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:13 PM
    Jan 2018

    be sentenced to prison next month. I admit it, I find great delite he got his bail revoked for adding like a .... Shkreli.

    Strelnikov_

    (7,772 posts)
    31. Thanks for posting
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:20 PM
    Jan 2018

    I was aware of this, but many others are not.

    Kinda like the US Postal Service "is going bankrupt". An 'engineered' bankruptcy.

    rurallib

    (62,423 posts)
    32. Yep - the MSM already has a narrative out there of internet stores and all that crap
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:24 PM
    Jan 2018

    without so much as a mention of the Vultures.
    So they gut many old line companies and the public is all ready to blame Amazon.

    FiveGoodMen

    (20,018 posts)
    25. Sure were!!
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:18 PM
    Jan 2018

    Took my granddaughters shopping there two Xmas's ago.

    Some of the same stuff we bought was at Walmart for about half the price.

    bucolic_frolic

    (43,182 posts)
    20. It's a wasteful system
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 05:04 PM
    Jan 2018

    Idea, venture capital, Wall Street funding, big box stores everywhere. Then people get tired of the junk they're
    trying to push on the public, sales decline, and the whole process implodes. Then bankruptcy. Stiff the lenders, collect investment bank advisory fees, and go public again, laden with debt. It's a process that hollows out the company financially, and leaves public shareholders with peanuts. When the final belly-up happens, private equity firms (think Wall Street again) buy the carcass, jack up prices to juice the profits, then sell it off at a profit. Shareholders of the public company are usually left with nothing.

    Without the financing, none of these chains would exist in the first. It's all about the profits.

    You want value? Go to a mom and pop store. Especially for restaurants. How do they make money? Charge the customer 20 times the cost of ingredients, pay their employees chicken feed.

    Is it any wonder people are in debt, broke, scraping by? The system just bleeds you.

    LisaM

    (27,813 posts)
    28. I'd go to a Mom and Pop toy store if I could find one.
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:27 PM
    Jan 2018

    But I can't really find toy stores anymore. I don't blame kids. When I was in the toy department at Target over Christmas (which by the way, I hate how it's all arranged by commercial tie-ins, but that's a separate issue), I had fun watching the kids in the aisles. They still get it.

    crazycatlady

    (4,492 posts)
    33. Toys R Us is arranged by commercial tie ins too
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:28 PM
    Jan 2018

    For example, they have a whole section devoted to Disney Princesses (I can't speak to other toys since that's what my nieces are into).

    Blue_Adept

    (6,399 posts)
    23. The rent is too damn high!
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 05:52 PM
    Jan 2018

    It's insane with these kinds of places with what they have to put into it.

    I live in a small town of about 25,000 and we've had a really great main street revival the last decade or so. Lots of new restaurants and shops, no chains or anything. But there's one section near the busy main intersection of it where it's been vacant for upwards of six or seven years.

    Nobody will rent it because the rent that's being asked for it is just too high to make sense for a host of reasons. Building owners price out startups and like and the tax laws make it so that it's in their interest to keep it unoccupied and lose money than to make less than they're asking.

    LisaM

    (27,813 posts)
    27. That's too bad. There used to be one right by our house and I shopped at it.
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:23 PM
    Jan 2018

    It was a great place to get things like games (even if you don't have kids, which I don't), and to get birthday presents, etc., which I'd far rather pick out myself than buy online. And this year, when my niece and nephew put out their lists, I really, really wished it was still there.

    They replaced ours with a Nordstrom Rack, which I hate.

    kimbutgar

    (21,163 posts)
    29. The only retail job I ever had was toys r us at Christmas my freshman year in college
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 08:42 PM
    Jan 2018

    It turned me off from working retail. That said I liked the job but the parents were awful because the newest toy wasn’t available and they took it out on me. Kind of sad the end of the era..

    Friggin hedge funds killed the giraffe Geoffrey.

    SunSeeker

    (51,572 posts)
    30. There will always be a place for toy stores, but not ones undercut by Target and Walmart.
    Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:01 PM
    Jan 2018

    There is a Target right across the street from the Toys R Us near my house. It sells the same stuff, for less.

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