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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 05:48 PM Jan 2018

Report: Glitch Deleted FBI Agents Trump-Russia Texts

Source: The Daily Beast




Thousands of FBI cellphones were affected by the glitch that prevented five months worth of text messages between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page from being archived. According to law enforcement officials, nearly 10 percent of some 35,000 employees were affected by the glitch. Strzok and Page, whose anti-Trump messages prompted Republican lawmakers to make “secret society” allegations, have a gap in their correspondence between Dec. 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017—raising concerns about how those went missing. The gap encompasses some crucial events including President Trump’s inauguration, the firings of Michael Flynn and James Comey, and the hiring of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

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barbtries

(28,799 posts)
3. it's kinda hinky
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:06 PM
Jan 2018

the thing is, there are certainly text messages, classified emails on trump admin people's phones, you name it out there. it's only scandalous if suspicion can be laid on the left.

when i first started visiting DU i would see the acronym IOKIYAR and for some time i didn't know what it meant. but as time passes i realize it's TRUE. they can flaunt the law, grab women by the pussy, be perverts, thieves, liars and wildly corrupt and it's okay. Hillary's email was never even hacked and looked what they did to her. why isn't tillerson being called for a dozen Niger hearings?

IOKIYAR - except it is NOT okay goddammit

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
4. But it should be fuel for adding in software infrastructure changes for improvements
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jan 2018

that prevent data loss & corruption

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
9. Or the "giltch" was concocted by the Trumpublicans
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:43 PM
Jan 2018

To use as another handle to throw shade on the entire investigation.


"Yeah, that's it, It was a glitch. A dirty rotten glitch, see. That's it. A glitch that proves its all a scam see. Yeah thats it"

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
7. Samsung has had these issues for awhile
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jan 2018

You want your texts to be reliably stored forever, stay away from Samsung.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
10. Sessions has vowed to leave no stone unturned in investigating the issue........
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jan 2018

Sessions will probably sent out ICE to get these missing texts.



http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/370560-many-fbi-phones-impacted-by-glitch-that-resulted-in-loss-of-texts-report

..............Justice Department officials are working to recover the lost messages from cellphone carriers and also trying to recover the devices themselves, Fox reported.

The text messages attracted massive attention when the Justice Department delivered them to members of the House Judiciary Committee in mid-December. The exchanges showed the agents referring to then-candidate Trump as an “idiot,” in addition to other derogatory terms.

On Tuesday, Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), chairmen of the powerful Oversight and Government Reform and Judiciary committees, sent a letter to the Justice Department inspector general demanding to know why he only now disclosed the missing text messages. Lawmakers have asked to see exchanges from the period between Nov. 30, 2016, and July 28, 2017.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has vowed to “leave no stone unturned” in investigating the issue.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
11. Government Has Some Of The Dumbest IT People On The Planet
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:05 AM
Jan 2018

Running a simple back-up would have saved the data. Then when the glitch purged the data you run a restore job and no damage. Indeed, this is so basic heads should roll over such a preventable loss of data.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. I doubt you know the actual mechanism involved here ...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 04:20 AM
Jan 2018

It's not simple files saved on PC's that could've been backed up easily in the manner you speak of.

When you send a text message from your cellphone to a friend ... are you aware of precisely how 'backups' of that text ... happen? Cause I know I don't.

I sure as hell don't know how 'backups of SMS texts occurring in a highly-secured and regulated environment like the FBI agents talking to one another over public cell carriers' ... is supposed to 'happen'.

Do you?

I doubt it's as simple as 'simple backups would've saved the data'. In fact the problem isn't even purported 'loss of backups' but rather 'copies on some server somewhere of message originating on cell phones ... not even having been made'. Which is a very different scenario than 'losing copies'.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
13. I Admit
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jan 2018

I don't know the specific architecture of cell messaging but the messages are stored on a file which would mean all of the elements are in place to create a backup file. Sure, it may require proprietary software to perform the function. Like other dynamic files it would likely involve using checkpoints - big deal. It still looks to me like corners were cut and people need to be held accountable.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Fair enough, they would logically be in 'files' in the most basic sense ...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:40 PM
Jan 2018

Cause everything on computers basically are held in some sort of 'file', by definition.

I'm saying it's likely a lot more complex process than simply backing up one's hard drives. Though that's one fairly fail-safe approach, it may not be the one they have implemented for these texts.

We should probably also consider the fact that this whole 'lost texts' thing is coming from the RW. Sessions, Fox, et al. TTBOMK the FBI has never formally claimed that this actually 'happened'. I have some doubts at this point though they may be ill-founded.

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