How is this "shielding" exactly?

I'm just saying, I don't think the accusations against Hillary really have legs.

He gets to keep his job and also gets to help run another organization for his deeds. She gets a transfer.

But so long as you get to use it to bash Dems....right?

He looks very old and tough.

Maybe he's done.

Go read the article.

Women On Clinton And Sanders Campaigns Allege Sexual Harassment

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-sanders-campaign-sexual-harassment_us_5a0dfdf2e4b045cf43705417

Wonder why we didn't hear more about this?

workplace policy in place. He and his wife have both run operations with many employees before, which of course, people being people, means it has happened before.

No surprise that Clinton's operation had a well established policy that was applied quickly upon complaint. The way this was handled may seem imperfect, an executive punished but kept and a clerk transferred to another position away from him, but a low-level female's complaint against a man with power in the organization was acted upon and promptly. No nonsense about blaming the woman for the man's goatish behaviors.

Hassan, when "he did it again," it was several years later and he worked for a different organization. The 2016 Clinton Campaign did not hire him, which considering she was expected to become our 45th president must have been quite a career comedown and disappointment for him.

Did you?

....the result of discussions between the campaign and the people involved. But we don't know that.

When "he got to do it again", he was not an employee of the Clinton campaign. That happened in 2013 (the article says five years later) and was fired by the organization he was working for within months of that second incident.

Hope that helped.

Since you are now bringing into this discussion who should have been fired from a campaign for offensive actions, I'm curious to hear your opinion of how this was handled.

abuse but he was "demoted up" to a newly created position?

Sounds AWFUL!!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/arturo-carmona-68328965/

Just curious, since you supported Hillary in 2016.


Here's a another picture of a thoroughly done old rooster, this one in it's New England habitat.

Unacceptable. That woman is EVIL!

And OMG VEGAN RECIPES WERE EXCHANGED!!

Unforgiveable! That neocon witch should be burned at the steak!!!

Not seeing that anywhere.


Here's a tweet for you:

Link to tweet

complained she was too pushy. He got her job.

First female executive editor at NY times dumped.

I am sorry to see the culture at the NY times has not changed since the 1970s when they went to court to try to keep having segregated Help Wanted ads. Low paying subservient jobs were found in the Female columns. Good paying and management jobs were listed under Males.

private citizen...yawn. Don't fall for such nonsense.

career path.

The fact he still has a job makes her look like a trouble maker.

at at least the same level. But since she now reported to Mike Henry, Hillary's deputy campaign manager, in the center of the campaign instead of being part of an ancillary function, it sounds like it had to have been good for her career, and her. What an experience...!

In any case, she's never complained publicly, and I'm a little curious to know what she was doing 8 years later during the 2016 campaign. Hillary is famous for being very loyal to her people and vice versa, so if this person wanted to be part of that she may well have been. (Stridor, of course, was not hired for 2016.)

Do you have documentation?

action, decision-making center of the campaign, where everyone always wants to be. That speaks volumes.

Note all the right wing deza, domestic and Russian intelligence ops, about this. They're really trying for that "tell a lie enough times and people will believe it."

The victims said they felt like they were being blamed:

“Arturo and his deputy went out drinking that night, didn’t pay it another thought, and the next morning assigned two young female interns to the same surrogate we just reported,” wrote Mendieta. “We objected vehemently and they reassigned them amidst great sighing.”

"249. No, he did not intervene. It's all in the article."

Nice try to muddy the waters.

Nice try to muddy the waters.

Let's all step back, take a breath, and you can explain why you feel it's important to further what Jose Garcia brought to DU.

It can't be an attempt to distract from Trump/Republican/Russian crimes, even if that's what those people are using it for.

Are some here unaware that Hillary is basically retired from elective politics. Is there a feeling of unfinished business, 2016 somehow didn't provide closure?

Surely it's not battle against the Democratic coalition base before we even begin to choose a candidate for 2020? Please say it's nothing to do with 2018.



Countdown to midterms: 281 days.

If there’s ever a hint of criticism about anything to do with Hillary Clinton or her campaign, the Sanders bashers come out of the woodwork to make it about Sanders.
Isn’t this what Faux News does too, turn it around to blame someone else?

You know you don’t have to respond to every supposed outrage, don’t you?

The posts are numbered, so you can read them in sequence. Let me know what you think of posts 1 to 25 for starters. Thanks!

Your description is really a joke. But it sounds familiar....hmmm.

are right. There is a great article about the Clinton/Sanders campaigns regarding the harassment on both campaigns. You should read it.

Did you read the article in the original post?
If you want to change the subject to denigrate the Sanders campaign, you should post a new thread. That way people will know it’s a Sanders bashing thread and can ignore it if they want to.

and express your personal hangups about individuals, you should start a thread about that. Your selective outrage concern is noted.

If I see a post about the Clinton campaign and the article posted is only about the Clinton campaign, it is surprising that some people turn it around to criticize the Sanders campaign. It happens often enough by the same posters to make it predictable and irritating.

Did you read the article in the original post? The Sanders campaign wasn’t even mentioned. If you want to change the subject to criticize the Sanders campaign, you should start a new thread.
😀

And you should take your own advice.

When you see an anti-Clinton hit piece, and then you read the thread and read all the hypocrisy in the comments, then you see why people are pointing out the hypocrisy.

You can just admit you didn't read the thread. Welcome to DU!

It wasn’t a hit piece on the Clinton campaign, I think you’re a little sensitive.
I’m certain that every campaign has its share of people behaving badly, including the Clinton and Sanders campaigns. I’m just asking why every post about the Clinton campaign is automatically turned around to target Sanders and his campaign. Aren’t we all working to achieve the same goals, more or less?

Maybe the article shouldn’t even have been posted, not sure what it accomplishes, except to divide people into different camps.

I, for one, would have been thrilled to have either Sanders or Clinton as my President, and I don’t see the point of bashing either of them.😀

own thread. You should take your own advice.

You can admit you didn't read the thread. When you read the hypocrisy in the thread responses, then you can badger me more, but in the meantime, if you haven't read the thread, then you should take your own advice and go read it.

Welcome to DU, lol.

Thank you for your advice.

I actually did start a thread on this very topic several months ago, I noticed that very negative things were said about Sanders, whereas negative comments about Clinton weren’t tolerated. There was a noticeable bias in favor of Clinton. Personally, with what is happening in the country now, I don’t think we should criticize either of them. We’re supposed to be on the same side.

You should take your own suggestion and read the article in the original post, Sanders name isn’t even mentioned. Don’t resort to Faux News tactics.

And please don’t demean me be repeatedly writing “welcome to DU”. I have as much right to express my ideas as anyone else.

you should start your own thread.

If you want to talk about other threads and your experiences on them, then you should start another thread about your other experiences.

You should admit that you didn't read the thread responses. You should admit that you don't care about the hypocrisy. It doesn't matter to you. But no one has to apologize to you for not liking the hypocrisy.

It’s like talking to a brick wall.

Why don’t you start a thread bashing Sanders instead of butting in to every other thread with your criticisms? Then it’s easy for people to ignore it.

Welcome to DU. You should take your own advice.

But there’s nothing there.

Welcome to DU.

Why try to divide Sanders/Clinton supporters? The campaign is over for both of them, and look what we’re stuck with.
I’m not against you.

You should take your own advice about "dividing supporters". You are not even making an honest observation. The observation would only be accurate if you read the thread responses, but you are okay with them because the hypocrisy obviously doesn't concern you. That says all I need to know.

If you want to start a thread about Sanders/Clinton supporters, you should do that. You should take your own advice if you are concerned.

Ciao.

There’s hypocrisy on both sides, and what does it matter? We’re still stuck with Trump. Why don’t we rise above fighting with each other and target those who are the enemies of our country?

The point is, I don’t want to start yet another thread about Hillary vs Bernie. We should move on. I don’t want to criticize either of them.

Just admit you don't care about the thread responses if they are hypocritically anti Clinton. You should take your own advice.

and if you say you will stop doing it.

on Hillary. I do, so I'll continue posting what I want. Thanks for your concern,

You don’t care about uniting people, you only care about evening scores.
I have tried to have a thoughtful dialogue with you without success.
You feel good now because you feel like you have “won” something, though you haven’t. We have all lost.