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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:58 PM Jan 2018

California Murder Suspect Said to Have Trained With Extremist Hate Group

Source: MSN/Propublica

The California man accused of killing a 19-year-old University of Pennsylvania student earlier this month is an avowed neo-Nazi and a member of one of the most notorious extremist groups in the country, according to three people with knowledge of the man’s recent activities.

The man, Samuel Woodward, has been charged in Orange County, California, with murdering Blaze Bernstein, who went missing in early January while visiting his family over winter break. Prosecutors allege that Woodward stabbed Bernstein more than 20 times before burying his body in an Orange County park where it was eventually discovered. The two men had attended high school together.

Woodward, 20, is set to be arraigned on Feb. 2 and has not yet entered a plea. Orange County prosecutors say they are examining the possibility that the killing was a hate crime — Bernstein was Jewish and openly gay — and some recent news reports have suggested that the alleged killer might hold far-right or even white supremacist political beliefs.

Now, three people with detailed knowledge of Woodward’s recent past have been able to shed more light on the young man’s extremist activities. They said Woodward was a member of the Atomwaffen Division, an armed Fascist group with the ultimate aim of overthrowing the U.S. government through the use of terrorism and guerrilla warfare.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/california-murder-suspect-said-to-have-trained-with-extremist-hate-group/ar-BBIhKi7?li=BBnbcA1

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California Murder Suspect Said to Have Trained With Extremist Hate Group (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2018 OP
Another Life Ruined For Believing In Fox News.. Grassy Knoll Jan 2018 #1
This is on trump and his supporters Abouttime Jan 2018 #2
How do we fight this? Scarsdale Jan 2018 #12
This group and groups like this exist and are growing in strength and membership... Pachamama Jan 2018 #3
If it's brought on, it won't be by them. Hortensis Jan 2018 #11
Isn't that what Scarsdale Jan 2018 #13
Not really. in the beginning Hitler presented a lot more like Trump, Hortensis Jan 2018 #14
Someone tell me again why closing the borders will keep us safer. Aristus Jan 2018 #4
The Trump effect at work. Initech Jan 2018 #5
Indeed. iluvtennis Jan 2018 #7
Both sides are to blame, clearly Dopers_Greed Jan 2018 #6
Yeah, but Antifa broke a few windows John Fante Jan 2018 #8
Kick dalton99a Jan 2018 #9
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #10
A different Woodward and Bernstein worked together to bring down Nixon IronLionZion Jan 2018 #15
More of those middle-class "economic anxieties" Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #16
Suspects in five killings reportedly linked to macabre neo-Nazi group mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #17
 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
2. This is on trump and his supporters
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:17 AM
Jan 2018

It’s no wonder these right wing fanatic terrorists are a direct result of trump and his fascistic rhetoric. Trump inspires this hate, he constantly plants seeds of hate and cultivates the sickos that carry out these acts of terrorism by stoking their emotions.
We need to step up, we need to go to our representatives, en masse, everyone with a conscience, all the millions of us.
We can end this peacefully, we can remove the president and the leadership of the republican apparatus, when are we going to finally do it!??

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. How do we fight this?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 07:26 AM
Jan 2018

The gop is supporting tRump 100% When he instigates violence, the gop all gather around to defend him. He is "misunderstood"? No, he is VERY clearly a racist. The so-called representatives in DC protect him and his views. They finally got one of their very own into the WH, and they will shield him for as long as it takes. Does anyone think for a moment that a democratic president would be allowed to act like tRump, unimpeded by the high and mighty in government? He costs taxpayers MILLIONS for his trips to Florida, where his Russian buddies can visit him without being seen. Millions of $$$ disappeared from his inauguration donations. No problem, since he has an (R) behind his name. Does the (R) stand for RUSSIA now?

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
3. This group and groups like this exist and are growing in strength and membership...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:34 AM
Jan 2018

I am very concerned about what they want to bring on....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. If it's brought on, it won't be by them.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 06:58 AM
Jan 2018

They're way too extreme and violently unstable to function well, as the article pretty clearly indicates, their imaginings of taking over the nation pathetically unrealistic. They'd leap to join murder squads organized by far more competent extremists, though.

That poor boy. Since they went to high school together, chances are good he already knew there was something seriously wrong with this guy and tried to stay away from him and anyone he hung with.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Not really. in the beginning Hitler presented a lot more like Trump,
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 08:10 AM
Jan 2018

complete with both most mainstream and also nasty fringe right followers, or like a more overtly bigoted Reagan, whose campaigning on "family values," traditional religion, and national security strikingly hit the very same notes Hitler's initial campaigning did long before.

Those newsreels of Hitler slathering and ranting that are what we normally see of him are misleading. Germans were presented with a very strong and authoritarian but charming and reassuring right-wing leader, one who was strong and determined enough to fix the misery they'd lived in since WWI and to "make Germany great again." And it was mainstream people, many of whom chose to view the "side notes" of bigotry as less important and ignorable, just like today, who joined with the genuine extremists (right and left) his darker messages attracted to elect him.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
15. A different Woodward and Bernstein worked together to bring down Nixon
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jan 2018


It's disturbing how hate crimes have been increasing lately. One of the Trump administration's first actions was to take white supremacist groups off the FBI watch lists and stop monitoring them.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. More of those middle-class "economic anxieties"
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jan 2018

These "anxieties" are getting to be more lethal for Americans than smoking...

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
17. Suspects in five killings reportedly linked to macabre neo-Nazi group
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jan 2018

My thread is a dupe of this one. I'm moving my post here.

Suspects in five killings reportedly linked to macabre neo-Nazi group

Morning Mix

Suspects in five killings reportedly linked to macabre neo-Nazi group

By Kyle Swenson January 29 at 5:29 AM

Earlier this month, when the body of California college student Blaze Bernstein was pulled from the loose dirt of a public park in the Orange County foothills, questions swirled about a motive. He was stabbed 20 times.

The 19-year-old University of Pennsylvania sophomore was gay and Jewish, and local law enforcement announced they were investigating whether Bernsteins death was a hate crime. The arrest of Samuel Woodward, a 20-year-old former high school classmate of Bernsteins, only intensified the speculation.

On Friday, ProPublica published a piece linking Woodward to Atomwaffen Division, a relatively new Charles Manson-obsessed neo-Nazi outfit that defines itself as a revolutionary national socialist organization centered around political activism and the practice of an autonomous fascist lifestyle.
....

An Atomwaffen connection has also been reported in the bizarre murder of Scott Fricker, 48, and Buckley Kuhn-Fricker, 43, in their Reston, Va., home in December. ... As The Washington Post reported in January, the couple had been pushing their teenage daughter to break up with her 17-year-old boyfriend after discovering his Nazi beliefs on social media. Police say the boyfriend then killed the parents and turned the gun on himself. He survived but remains in critical condition.
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Kyle Swenson is a reporter with The Washington Post's Morning Mix team. He previously worked at the New Times Broward-Palm Beach and Cleveland Scene. Follow @kyletalking


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Hat tip, Joe.My.God: http://www.joemygod.com/2018/01/29/california-suspect-murder-gay-man-linked-neo-nazi-group-tied-four-murders-video/

I'm working on an investigation into the alleged neo-Nazi murderer Sam Woodward & his membership to Atomwaffen Division for @ProPublica, with @awinston & @ACInvestigates. Here's our first piece: https://www.propublica.org/article/california-murder-suspect-atomwaffen-division-extremist-hate-group




Another photo of Sam doing the Nazi salute next two other Atomwaffen Division members.


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